Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, Dabura said: [Yearly reminder that the last time the Wings won a Cup without Brett Lebda was 2002, just saying] The Good 'ol Days 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Dabura said: Jack Hughes will probably go top 5. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Jack Hughes will probably go top 5. Nah, he's gonna slide to the 2nd round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoweFan 74 Report post Posted January 6, 2019 Suppose we end up drafting third. Hughes and Kakko are gone. Who do you pick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 6, 2019 6 hours ago, HoweFan said: Suppose we end up drafting third. Hughes and Kakko are gone. Who do you pick? A lot can change in the next 6 months, but it's still Cozens for me right now. 2 Dabura and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted January 7, 2019 20 hours ago, HoweFan said: Suppose we end up drafting third. Hughes and Kakko are gone. Who do you pick? I'd consider trading back. Cozens is #3 on my list (at the moment), but it isn't by much; Krebs, Newhook, et al. are right there with him. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoweFan 74 Report post Posted January 7, 2019 My next group has Cousins, Dach, Bowen, and Podkolsin in it in that order 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Craig's List: Hughes stays ahead of Kakko after World Juniors [TSN] Quote Kakko put his name in the World Junior history books by scoring the winning goal for Finland Saturday night in the gold-medal game against the U.S. While Kakko had a strong tournament, I still don’t see a better player available in this draft than Hughes, who was limited by injury at the World Juniors but has been outstanding with the U.S. National Development U18 Team this season. Instead, Kakko is in a race with Russian right wing Vasili Podkolzin (No. 3) and Lethbridge Hurricanes centre Dylan Cozens (No. 4) to establish the second-best prospect in this draft class. Button's top 10: Jack Hughes (C) Kaapo Kakko (RW/C) Vasili Podkolzin (RW) Dylan Cozens (C) Philip Broberg (D) Trevor Zegras (C) Matthew Boldy (LW) Kirby Dach (C) Arthur Kaliyev (RW) Bowen Byram (D) Edited January 8, 2019 by Dabura 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted January 7, 2019 Incidentally, the Wings have cracked the bottom 5: https://www.nhl.com/standings/2018/league F*** the Senators. F***ing dinguses are going to gift the f***ing Avs a franchise player. 1 2 Hockeymom1960, LeftWinger and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Dabura said: F*** the Senators. F***ing dinguses are going to gift the f***ing Avs a franchise player. Terrible trade (Duchene), made worse by not giving up the pick (Tkachuk) in last year's draft... Everybody (except Sens management) knew it was a terrible decision at the time. What a train wreck of an organization... 2 Dabura and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 yep, right now Ottawa sits dead last with the best odds to get the #1. Meaning, ugh, Jack Hughes to the Avs. We just need to sell at the deadline, all the players that we are talking about and get as many picks/prospect in return and hit dead bottom before the season ends. Still, Avs are pretty much guaranteed a top 5 pick. Bleh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 973 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: yep, right now Ottawa sits dead last with the best odds to get the #1. Meaning, ugh, Jack Hughes to the Avs. We just need to sell at the deadline, all the players that we are talking about and get as many picks/prospect in return and hit dead bottom before the season ends. Still, Avs are pretty much guaranteed a top 5 pick. Bleh! But wait all the teams below us have games in hand.!!! Team GP Pts Detroit 45 39 St Louis 41 38 + 8 possible points LA 44 37 + 2 possible Philly 43 36 +4 possible Dumpster 43 35 +4 possible Soo they all win their games we drop into a tie for da bottom St Louis 46 Philly 40 LA 39 Detroit 39 Dumpster 39 So don't give up the ship yet on that 31st place. I want a bottom 2 finish at a minimum. We lose 5% in the odds of getting number 1 if 2nd but worst case we get a top 5 pick. So say we finish in a 3 way tie with LA and Dumpster Fire. Does it go head to head then ROW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Does it go head to head then ROW? ROW then head-to-head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 973 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: But wait all the teams below us have games in hand.!!! Team GP Pts Detroit 45 39 St Louis 41 38 + 8 possible points LA 44 37 + 2 possible Philly 43 36 +4 possible Dumpster 43 35 +4 possible Soo they all win their games we drop into a tie for da bottom Pts ROW St Louis 46 17 Philly 40 13 LA 39 16 Dumpster 39 15 Detroit 39 14 So don't give up the ship yet on that 31st place. I want a bottom 2 finish at a minimum. We lose 5% in the odds of getting number 1 if 2nd but worst case we get a top 5 pick. So say we finish in a 3 way tie with LA and Dumpster Fire. Does it go head to head then ROW? With the ROW info added into the current true-up with assumptions above .... Hello Mr Hughes welcome to Detroit !!! See folks we are super close to winning the jackpot! Now we need POSITIVE vibes from everyone to make it a reality. I hope we have 31st in hand before I go see the Wings play the last game of the year. Would be crappy to root against them on my annual trip to MI 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Dabura said: Just for comparison, here is the actual draft fom 2014 #1 Florida Panthers Aaron Ekblad (D) 5 350 61 90 151 223 #2 Buffalo Sabres Sam Reinhart (F) 5 292 74 106 180 52 #3 Edmonton Oilers Leon Draisaitl (F) 5 312 98 161 259 92 #4 Calgary Flames Sam Bennett (F) 5 284 48 56 104 241 #5 New York Islanders Michael Dal Colle (F) 2 11 0 1 1 2 #6 Vancouver Canucks Jake Virtanen (F) 4 185 28 24 52 119 #7 Carolina Hurricanes Haydn Fleury (D) 2 77 0 9 9 14 #8 Toronto Maple Leafs William Nylander (F) 4 199 49 89 138 58 #9 Winnipeg Jets Nikolaj Ehlers (F) 4 276 84 105 189 98 #10 Anaheim Ducks Nick Ritchie (F) 4 215 31 45 76 199 #11 Nashville Predators Kevin Fiala (F) 5 185 43 48 91 66 #12 Phoenix Coyotes Brendan Perlini (F) 3 174 36 25 61 68 #13 Washington Capitals Jakub Vrána (F) 3 136 30 27 57 28 #14 Dallas Stars Julius Honka (D) 3 84 2 11 13 28 #15 Detroit Red Wings Dylan Larkin (F) 4 287 74 107 181 173 #16 Columbus Blue Jackets Sonny Milano (F) 4 70 15 9 24 10 #17 Philadelphia Flyers Travis Sanheim (D) 2 92 6 17 23 28 #18 Minnesota Wild Alex Tuch (F) 3 122 29 42 71 33 #19 Tampa Bay Lightning Tony DeAngelo (D) 3 97 7 24 31 85 #20 Chicago Blackhawks Nick Schmaltz (F) 3 179 34 71 105 32 #21 St. Louis Blues Robby Fabbri (F) 4 142 31 39 70 56 #22 Pittsburgh Penguins Kasperi Kapanen (F) 4 97 22 13 35 20 #23 Colorado Avalanche Conner Bleackley (F) #24 Vancouver Canucks Jared McCann (F) 4 206 26 44 70 80 #25 Boston Bruins David Pastrnak (F) 5 297 119 136 255 117 #26 Montréal Canadiens Nikita Scherbak (F) 3 37 6 2 8 10 #27 San Jose Sharks Nikolay Goldobin (F) 4 103 17 25 42 18 #28 New York Islanders Joshua Ho-Sang (F) 3 53 7 17 24 20 #29 Los Angeles Kings Adrian Kempe (F) 3 149 23 32 55 85 #30 New Jersey Devils John Quenneville (F) 3 29 1 3 4 6 Who did real good in this draft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) On 1/10/2019 at 8:36 PM, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Just for comparison, here is the actual draft fom 2014 #1 Florida Panthers Aaron Ekblad (D) 5 350 61 90 151 223 #2 Buffalo Sabres Sam Reinhart (F) 5 292 74 106 180 52 #3 Edmonton Oilers Leon Draisaitl (F) 5 312 98 161 259 92 #4 Calgary Flames Sam Bennett (F) 5 284 48 56 104 241 #5 New York Islanders Michael Dal Colle (F) 2 11 0 1 1 2 #6 Vancouver Canucks Jake Virtanen (F) 4 185 28 24 52 119 #7 Carolina Hurricanes Haydn Fleury (D) 2 77 0 9 9 14 #8 Toronto Maple Leafs William Nylander (F) 4 199 49 89 138 58 #9 Winnipeg Jets Nikolaj Ehlers (F) 4 276 84 105 189 98 #10 Anaheim Ducks Nick Ritchie (F) 4 215 31 45 76 199 #11 Nashville Predators Kevin Fiala (F) 5 185 43 48 91 66 #12 Phoenix Coyotes Brendan Perlini (F) 3 174 36 25 61 68 #13 Washington Capitals Jakub Vrána (F) 3 136 30 27 57 28 #14 Dallas Stars Julius Honka (D) 3 84 2 11 13 28 #15 Detroit Red Wings Dylan Larkin (F) 4 287 74 107 181 173 #16 Columbus Blue Jackets Sonny Milano (F) 4 70 15 9 24 10 #17 Philadelphia Flyers Travis Sanheim (D) 2 92 6 17 23 28 #18 Minnesota Wild Alex Tuch (F) 3 122 29 42 71 33 #19 Tampa Bay Lightning Tony DeAngelo (D) 3 97 7 24 31 85 #20 Chicago Blackhawks Nick Schmaltz (F) 3 179 34 71 105 32 #21 St. Louis Blues Robby Fabbri (F) 4 142 31 39 70 56 #22 Pittsburgh Penguins Kasperi Kapanen (F) 4 97 22 13 35 20 #23 Colorado Avalanche Conner Bleackley (F) #24 Vancouver Canucks Jared McCann (F) 4 206 26 44 70 80 #25 Boston Bruins David Pastrnak (F) 5 297 119 136 255 117 #26 Montréal Canadiens Nikita Scherbak (F) 3 37 6 2 8 10 #27 San Jose Sharks Nikolay Goldobin (F) 4 103 17 25 42 18 #28 New York Islanders Joshua Ho-Sang (F) 3 53 7 17 24 20 #29 Los Angeles Kings Adrian Kempe (F) 3 149 23 32 55 85 #30 New Jersey Devils John Quenneville (F) 3 29 1 3 4 Who did real good in this draft? Who did better? Yzerman.img Edited September 25, 2019 by krsmith17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: Who did better? NO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,492 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 I love redrafts. They're proof positive that the talent in the first round is WAY closer than what everyone makes it out to be in most instances. Year after year we hear about "tiers" and how such and such guys are heads and tails better than such and such guys. And then they aren't. It's great to see how little anybody actually knows about how these kids will turn out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED Bottom three https://www.nhl.com/standings/2018/league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 38 minutes ago, Dabura said: ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED Bottom three https://www.nhl.com/standings/2018/league Flyers 1 point back (with a game in hand), and Kings 2 points back... What is going on in Philly and LA? How is a team with Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Van Riemsdyk, Simmonds, Konecny, Patrick, Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim 2nd last in the NHL??? How is a team with Kopitar, Kovalchuk, Carter, Brown, Taffoli, Doughty, Muzzin, Quick dead last in the NHL? Their core is getting old, and they should soon be looking to rebuild, but still. I don't think anyone could have predicted either of these teams to be THIS bad... Either way, the Wings have a real shot at finishing this season dead last, and I think at worst we'll have top 3 odds in the draft lottery. Sell, and sell hard at the deadline Kenny! 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Flyers 1 point back (with a game in hand), and Kings 2 points back... What is going on in Philly and LA? How is a team with Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Van Riemsdyk, Simmonds, Konecny, Patrick, Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim 2nd last in the NHL??? 8 goalies so far this season How is a team with Kopitar, Kovalchuk, Carter, Brown, Taffoli, Doughty, Muzzin, Quick dead last in the NHL? Also, goaltendeing issues/injuries 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: What is going on in Philly and LA? How is a team with Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Van Riemsdyk, Simmonds, Konecny, Patrick, Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim 2nd last in the NHL??? How is a team with Kopitar, Kovalchuk, Carter, Brown, Taffoli, Doughty, Muzzin, Quick dead last in the NHL? Their core is getting old, and they should soon be looking to rebuild, but still. I don't think anyone could have predicted either of these teams to be THIS bad... Drugs? 1 1 The 91 of Ryans and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Dabura said: Drugs? Or drugs yes. Goaltending or drugs. One or the other 1 1 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
