LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 Pit has been rumored to be interested in Howard. You may laugh, but even Ken Daniels eluded to it last night, there will be teams that will be asking about renting Kronwall. If Kenny is a good GM, if someone calls, Kenny should approach Kronner and give him the choice. Tell him "listen, Toronto wants you for a Cup run, if you want to get one more shot, I'll trade you there, if you'd rather just skate into the sunset in Detroit, that's cool too. It's your choice." I am good either way. I could see a 3rd round pick for Kronwall. I HOPE someone wants Ericsson, PLEASE!!! Daley would be much better on a better team in need of depth, he is called upon too much here. Nyquist and Howard MUST be dealt to get maximum return. 1st round for Nyquist, prospect for Howard. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Pit has been rumored to be interested in Howard. You may laugh, but even Ken Daniels eluded to it last night, there will be teams that will be asking about renting Kronwall. If Kenny is a good GM, if someone calls, Kenny should approach Kronner and give him the choice. Tell him "listen, Toronto wants you for a Cup run, if you want to get one more shot, I'll trade you there, if you'd rather just skate into the sunset in Detroit, that's cool too. It's your choice." I am good either way. I could see a 3rd round pick for Kronwall. I HOPE someone wants Ericsson, PLEASE!!! Daley would be much better on a better team in need of depth, he is called upon too much here. Nyquist and Howard MUST be dealt to get maximum return. 1st round for Nyquist, prospect for Howard. We'll see just how good a GM Holland is at this trade deadline.If he can't acquire at least TWO 1st rounders and a bluechip defensive prospect, I'll consider his life's work to be a complete failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 Nobody cares about your sarcasm, it really takes away from the conversation. My point is, Holland should listen to all inquiries and explore all avenues to get more draft picks. A BAD GM would just hang up the phone on a Kronwall inquiry without asking Kronner what he'd like to do. Kenny should be that GOOD GM and go to him and ask him if he'd like another shot at the Cup. a 1st for Gus and a Prospect for Howard is not the moon or unquestionable. That is far and away from your extreme feeble attempt at belittling me by saying what you did about a TDL return. Grow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: We'll see just how good a GM Holland is at this trade deadline.If he can't acquire at least TWO 1st rounders and a bluechip defensive prospect, I'll consider his life's work to be a complete failure. EXACTLY! Nyquist to Nashville for Fabbro. Daley to Dallas for a 1st round pick. Ericsson to Vegas for a 2nd round pick. Howard to Calgary for a 1st and a 2nd. Game's easy... If Holland can't pull this off he should be fired immediately!!! 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 ...and this is why banned user should remain banned. MODS should re-clean this place up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: My point is, Holland should listen to all inquiries and explore all avenues to get more draft picks. A BAD GM would just hang up the phone on a Kronwall inquiry without asking Kronner what he'd like to do. Kenny should be that GOOD GM and go to him and ask him if he'd like another shot at the Cup. So are we (you) going to just assume that if (when) Kronwall is not traded that Holland "hung up the phone" and "didn't ask him if he'd like another shot at a Cup"?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Nobody cares about your sarcasm, it really takes away from the conversation. My point is, Holland should listen to all inquiries and explore all avenues to get more draft picks. A BAD GM would just hang up the phone on a Kronwall inquiry without asking Kronner what he'd like to do. Kenny should be that GOOD GM and go to him and ask him if he'd like another shot at the Cup. a 1st for Gus and a Prospect for Howard is not the moon or unquestionable. That is far and away from your extreme feeble attempt at belittling me by saying what you did about a TDL return. Grow up. Except I 100% believe that you think Holland is not "listening to all inquiries and exploring all avenues". And I'm like "considering his last two deadlines (and first and only two as a real seller) what does this guy have to do to earn your trust?". Except I didn't say this because I chose to be unreasonable and irrational instead. When in Rome........... 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: ...and this is why banned user should remain banned. MODS should re-clean this place up. It's true. @Bill Berzeench should never have been allowed back on this site. 2 krsmith17 and Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 4 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Nobody cares about your sarcasm, it really takes away from the conversation. Agreed. It's a bummer he can't turn the corner. 4 hours ago, LeftWinger said: ...and this is why banned user should remain banned. MODS should re-clean this place up. Had me and then you lost me... 3 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: It's true. @Bill Berzeench should never have been allowed back on this site. My threads are epic, bruh 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) https://www.tsn.ca/duchene-tops-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.1242403 Nyquist and Howard sit 8th and 9th on TSN's trade list board. Kronwall is 38th. Edited January 16, 2019 by krsmith17 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: https://www.tsn.ca/duchene-tops-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.1242403 Nyquist and Larkin sit 8th and 9th on TSN's trade list board. Kronwall is 38th. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE 1 1 Dabura and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Wheelchairsuperhero said: REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Fixed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: Fixed... YOU MUDDAFUGGA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, krsmith17 said: https://www.tsn.ca/duchene-tops-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.1242403 Nyquist and Howard sit 8th and 9th on TSN's trade list board. Kronwall is 38th. I wanted Nyquist gone at the beginning of the year for a 2nd. Now, I wouldn't take less than a 1st. He is having a great season. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 There is going to be a complete pie storm in here when KH resigns Goose instead of trading him. I mean we can hope for another Veleno to fall in our lap with that pick, but chances are that they wont be as good as Nyquist, so keep him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Nyquist for Bean... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: There is going to be a complete pie storm in here when KH resigns Goose instead of trading him. I mean we can hope for another Veleno to fall in our lap with that pick, but chances are that they wont be as good as Nyquist, so keep him. If what the beat writers are saying is true and a Nyquist extension would look something like $5M+ x 3/4 years, I don't want him back. He's having a career year in a contract year, as a 29-year-old. Last season he put up 40 points... 2 krsmith17 and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Also, with the forward depth in this draft class, I wouldn't be at all surprised if a Veleno type slips to the end of the 1st round again. Edited January 17, 2019 by Dabura 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: There is going to be a complete pie storm in here when KH resigns Goose instead of trading him. I mean we can hope for another Veleno to fall in our lap with that pick, but chances are that they wont be as good as Nyquist, so keep him. If we end up with a pick in the 25-31 range, I'd say there's a reasonably good chance that player develops into a player as good as Nyquist. Regardless, he will be 30 to start next season, and into his mid 30's by the time this team is ready to compete. It really would be foolish to hold on to him in our situation. I'm not sure about a "pie storm", but I'd be pretty pissed off if Nyquist isn't traded in the next month... 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Keep an eye on Bobby Brink and Connor McMichael. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Dabura said: If what the beat writers are saying is true and a Nyquist extension would look something like $5M+ x 3/4 years, I don't want him back. He's having a career year in a contract year, as a 29-year-old. Last season he put up 40 points... This too. While I don't think that would be a terrible contract, I think it would be a terrible contract for this team to sign at this stage of their "rebuild". 3 minutes ago, Dabura said: Also, with the forward depth in this draft class, I wouldn't be at all surprised if a Veleno type slips to the end of the 1st round again. Since we don't know exactly what Veleno is going to be yet, I'll stick with the Nyquist comparison. There are always Nyquist caliber players at the end of the first round of every draft. Whether we hit or miss, I'd rather take the swing than not have the chance at all... GIVE ME ALL THE PICKS!!! 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: This too. While I don't think that would be a terrible contract, I think it would be a terrible contract for this team to sign at this stage of their "rebuild". I could maybe get behind $5.25M x 3, assuming he continues producing like he has this season and also assuming we're not going anywhere for at least another season. I don't like those assumptions, though. I guess the most scathing thing I could say about a moderately big Nyquist extension is that it doesn't seem all that necessary and there's probably a lot of room there for regret. 10 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Since we don't know exactly what Veleno is going to be yet, I'll stick with the Nyquist comparison. There are always Nyquist caliber players at the end of the first round of every draft. Whether we hit or miss, I'd rather take the swing than not have the chance at all... GIVE ME ALL THE PICKS!!! Word. Mantha and Athanasiou are the new Nyquist and Tatar. Let's continue phasing out the old guard and continue stockpiling picks and building for the future. PICK HYPE! 2 krsmith17 and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 So dregger and McKenzie just said on the insider teams are calling the wings about kronwall ... guessing the leafs for sure , sadly I doubt he’d do us a solid and waive his no trade clause but just curious what his return could be, he’s older now but you know he’d step up and be a bigger presence in the playoffs on a cup contending team depending his role have to think at least a 2nd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 Players going nowhere: Howard & Kronwall Players who will be traded for pieces: Nyquist & Daley Players who are homosexual and I couldn't care less if they are traded or not: Jensen 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_SP_ 129 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 I feel all pending-UFAs should be moved, unless the team feels it would hinder the development of the players that would need to be called up to fill the roles, or those currently on the team. Draft picks should be the goal, or players under 23 with team control. Nyquist - 1st or 2nd. Howard- 2nd or 3rd. Kronwall-4th or 5th. Jensen - 5th or 6th. Vanek-6th or 7th Then I'm moving veterans that don't have a long-term role. Green - 2nd or 3rd. Daley - 3rd or 4th. Dekeyser - 4th or 5th. Ericsson 4th or 5th. Now, obviously the team has to field a roster. It's not possible to get rid of 6 defensemen. But they should be shopping all the players above. Get rid of 2-3 wingers and 2-3 defensemen. Secure 5-6 more picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites