krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 No surprise here... 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 Hopefully it's only one year with the uncertain of the front office but nothing more then three max. Would've been nice to see if they could've gotten Q since he said he is making a return. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 I'm actually pretty happy with this. I've liked how good the kids have developed, how fast we play, and how competitive we are each night. I'd love to see what Blash will do with a decent roster. 2 Wheelchairsuperhero and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 679 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 As much as this guy should be fired this team is 2 years (or more) from being a team a quality coach who has options like Q would consider joining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 Make that 14 - 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 Here's a fun thought, Babcock and Dubas are feuding (surprise surprise). If Mike gets fired, how many people want him back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Here's a fun thought, Babcock and Dubas are feuding (surprise surprise). If Mike gets fired, how many people want him back? Raises hand Babcock is a maniac. Holland has been the only GM with enough tact to have any sort of lasting, successful relationship with him. Dubas is such a noob. He and Yzerman also have a positive thing. Just sayin Edited March 21, 2019 by The 91 of Ryans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 It's no secret that I think Mike Babcock absolutely sucks, but beyond that, one would have to think that maybe he's out of touch with modern hockey if he can't win with that roster? I mean, isn't his hallmark that he wins big games when his team is heads and tails better than their competition? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, kipwinger said: It's no secret that I think Mike Babcock absolutely sucks, but beyond that, one would have to think that maybe he's out of touch with modern hockey if he can't win with that roster? I mean, isn't his hallmark that he wins big games when his team is heads and tails better than their competition? I think I need someone to define "modern hockey" Because right now, the gold standard is just a stacked team in Tampa (by any era's metrics) and then you have the last bunch of cup winners who all check most of the playoff trope boxes. So what is the secret? What is Babcock out of touch with? Serious question.... Edited March 21, 2019 by The 91 of Ryans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I think I need someone to define "modern hockey" Because right now, the gold standard is just a stacked in Tampa (by any era's metrics) and then you have the last bunch of cup winners who all check most of the playoff trope boxes. So what is the secret? What is Babcock out of touch with? Serious question.... Well he's insinuated that the Maples Leafs aren't deep enough to overcome injuries to Jake Gardiner and (rookie) Travis Dermott even though Morgan Reilly is having a Norris caliber season and Dubas traded for Jake Muzzin at the deadline. Speaking of Muzzin, despite already being a top pairing defenseman on a Stanley Cup winning team Uncle Mike is currently playing him less than Nikita Zaitsev and Ron Hainsey. But don't think his idiotic usage extends only to defensemen. Zach Hyman is getting more icetime than all of William Nylander, Patrick Marleau, Kasperi Kapanen, Andreas Johnsson, and Nazim Kadri even though all of them are significantly more productive forwards by most objective measures. Then there's the more general stuff like his constant line juggling and giving guys icetime because they work hard despite their skill level (I call this the Dan Cleary treatment). Also, I'm not sure that I'd call Tampa the gold standard. They've been stacked for a number of years now and can't get over the hump. At some point you're supposed to win with your superstar team. I'm genuinely not sure they'll beat Washington this year. To me they're still too little and don't score enough in the trenches. They should have traded for Wayne Simmonds or Brian Boyle or someone. They remind me of the 95 Wings. Edited March 21, 2019 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 In today's sports world, missing the playoffs three years in a row should result in automatic termination. This franchise has no accountability anymore. His line combos and obsession with some of the grunts on this team is annoying. 1 hour ago, kipwinger said: I'm actually pretty happy with this. I've liked how good the kids have developed, how fast we play, and how competitive we are each night. I'd love to see what Blash will do with a decent roster. You'll get your wish in 2022. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said: In today's sports world, missing the playoffs three years in a row should result in automatic termination. This franchise has no accountability anymore. His line combos and obsession with some of the grunts on this team is annoying. You'll get your wish in 2022. Na, we're going to be awesome in two years. Count it. Kids continue to develop in a system they know and have bought into. Old, useless veterans are phased out and more young talent is brought up. And we nab some high end draft picks this year and next. Next year we surprise people and almost make the playoffs. UFA's see we're a team in the rise and sign up in the offseason. The following year we're in contention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, kipwinger said: I'm actually pretty happy with this. I've liked how good the kids have developed, how fast we play, and how competitive we are each night. I'd love to see what Blash will do with a decent roster. Do you also like being a bottom 5 team? Someone needs to be held responsible for the status of the franchise. Edited March 21, 2019 by kylee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 I like Blash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, kylee said: Do you also like being a bottom 5 team? For the moment, yes. Also, ascribing our current bottom five status to Blashill's coaching completely ignores the long downward trajectory we've been on since about 2013. Tends to happen when your players get older and you don't have many 1st round picks. But that's seeing the forest AND the trees, someone most fans (including you apparently) aren't capable of. 1 minute ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I like Blash. I'm still up in the air about him, but I'm not ready to condemn a guy based on poor performance when he's had a league worst defense, league worst center depth, and few quality prime age players since his tenure began. If I wanted a guy who loses with superstar level talent I'd hire Mike Babcock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, kipwinger said: For the moment, yes. Also, ascribing our current bottom five status to Blashill's coaching completely ignores the long downward trajectory we've been on since about 2013. Tends to happen when your players get older and you don't have many 1st round picks. But that's seeing the forest AND the trees, someone most fans (including you apparently) aren't capable of. I'm still up in the air about him, but I'm not ready to condemn a guy based on poor performance when he's had a league worst defense, league worst center depth, and few quality prime age players since his tenure began. If I wanted a guy who loses with superstar level talent I'd hire Mike Babcock. Exactly. He can't bench 5 crappy Holland signings. He has to play. Who he is given. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Exactly. He can't bench 5 crappy Holland signings. He has to play. Who he is given. Seriously, Mike Babcock is complaining his team isn't "deep enough" because one of his two 50 point defensemen from the last two years is hurt and all Kyle Dubas did was go out and get a top pair defenseman from a Stanley Cup winning team to augment their depth. Try winning games with Trevor Daley the ghost of Niklas Kronwall you f*cking pu**y. 2 krsmith17 and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 12 hours ago, GMRwings1983 said: In today's sports world, missing the playoffs three years in a row should result in automatic termination. This franchise has no accountability anymore. His line combos and obsession with some of the grunts on this team is annoying. You'll get your wish in 2022. If you are in "win now" mode, sure. When you are a re-building team, to blindly fire a coach simply based on the playoffs is just silly. For the record, I'm not even saying that I want Blashill, truly I'm undecided, but making/not making the playoffs has nothing to do with it. 10 hours ago, kylee said: Do you also like being a bottom 5 team? Someone needs to be held responsible for the status of the franchise. I dont think many fans mind this. What most fans hate is mediocrity and being stuck in the 15th - 20th best range. At least as a bottom 5 team we will land some building blocks. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 Big named coaches probably won't want to come here for another couple years anyway. Keeping Blash probably makes the most sense. 19 hours ago, kipwinger said: Here's a fun thought, Babcock and Dubas are feuding (surprise surprise). If Mike gets fired, how many people want him back? I'm not surprised, Dubass screwed the long term Leafs future signing Tavares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, Barrie said: Big named coaches probably won't want to come here for another couple years anyway. Keeping Blash probably makes the most sense. I'm not surprised, Dubass screwed the long term Leafs future signing Tavares. How's that now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krayzie_Bone 58 Report post Posted March 22, 2019 Well we know how next season will go if that is the case. A decent early start with signs of improvement and then a total collapse and lack of effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 22, 2019 4 hours ago, kipwinger said: How's that now? Tavares contract upped the value on Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. Marner is going to ask for $12 Million now. How can the Leafs make that happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,516 Report post Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Barrie said: Tavares contract upped the value on Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. Marner is going to ask for $12 Million now. How can the Leafs make that happen? Marner is an RFA, he can ask for whatever he wants, he can even sit out for a portion of the season (ask Nylander). Nevertheless, he's not getting 12 million dollars. So I don't think it's that big a concern. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted March 22, 2019 f*** off Jeff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Interesting that Yzerman wants Blashill back. Edited March 22, 2019 by kickazz 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites