nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Kivenmaki is a decent prospect, but much like Saarijarvi, he's still a long shot to ever make the NHL. I know I’m way more excited about him as a prospect than saarijarvi and he’s got upside so if he makes it he won’t be some 3rd/4th line plug guy, I believe he can be someone we can potentially be talking about as another steal pick ... yes it’s still very early and odds are against him but I like him more than some guys we have anyways point is more picks regardless where it is better chances of landing players , we could have landed Samuel fagemo last season for example as a 7th and he’d have been a steal right now . Like I said I’m just greedy and want as many picks as we can get lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, mackel said: I was this close... but I decided not to shatter dreams today. Homer 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: I know I’m way more excited about him as a prospect than saarijarvi and he’s got upside so if he makes it he won’t be some 3rd/4th line plug guy, I believe he can be someone we can potentially be talking about as another steal pick ... yes it’s still very early and odds are against him but I like him more than some guys we have anyways point is more picks regardless where it is better chances of landing players , we could have landed Samuel fagemo last season for example as a 7th and he’d have been a steal right now . Like I said I’m just greedy and want as many picks as we can get lol I agree with adding more picks, I just don't see a market for a guy like Saarijarvi. Of course you're more excited about Kivenmaki than Saarijarvi. Everyone is right now, because he's newer and shinier. He hasn't had the opportunity to disappoint yet... It wasn't too long ago that many thought Almqvist was going to be a steal. Then shortly after that it was Marchenko. Then Holmstrom. Now Kivenmaki. Fact is, the odds of any of them making the NHL as a permanent fixture was always slim. I would say it's the same for Kivenmaki (especially at his size), as well as any future 7th round picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I agree with adding more picks, I just don't see a market for a guy like Saarijarvi. Of course you're more excited about Kivenmaki than Saarijarvi. Everyone is right now, because he's newer and shinier. He hasn't had the opportunity to disappoint yet... It wasn't too long ago that many thought Almqvist was going to be a steal. Then shortly after that it was Marchenko. Then Holmstrom. Now Kivenmaki. Fact is, the odds of any of them making the NHL as a permanent fixture was always slim. I would say it's the same for Kivenmaki (especially at his size), as well as any future 7th round picks. Your most likely right but I’m just hoping we can given he’s what 21? And I don’t think he’s really been given a bunch of ice time but hey I could be wrong ... maybe a team like Carolina with all those finn’s? Or maybe some conditional pick .. whatever again your probably right but with d’s especially I’m hoping for something From what I’ve seen and read he looks like he has nice upside is all I’m saying and if he makes the nhl it won’t be some plug in guy , he won’t be there checking guys and stuff he’ll be there as a playmaker and a guy who can produce trust me I’m the first guy to complain when we draft short guys but all I hear is how this is the new nhl and it doesn’t matter and stuff so for me personally I’m more excited at him at this point than say a Phillips who we drafted this year earlier on ,like you said man it’s a crapshoot and anyone pretty much rounds 4-7 is unknown I’m excited about him cause of his upside but I’m not gonna go crazy if he doesn’t make it cause like you mentioned those guys along with axelsson,Daniel larsson etc... I’ve been disappointed ... so cautiously optimistic , this will be a big year cause If he continues from the end of last season and dominates the Finnish league then there’s really reason to be pumped about him Edited August 15, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Erne - Filpulla - AA the new kid will get those pucks 4 ya That very well might be what Yzerman has in mind. Still would prefer a guy who can score AND retrieve pucks like Bert though. Obviously I expect Bert to be that guy on the first line, and then some combination of Erne, Helm, and Abby doing it on the next three lines. Ideally those last three spots will go to some combination of Rasmussen, Grewe, Svech or some UFA in the future though. Given the roster that we have right now, I think we'll see something like this: Bert-Lark-Mantha Erne/Abby/Helm-Filppula/Nielsen-AA Erne/Abby/Helm-Filpuula/Nielsen-Hirose Erne/Abby/Helm-Glendening-Ehn/De La Rose Ehn/De La Rose Sorry if that's hard to follow. But I think you get the idea. Lots of guys are interchangeable on this squad. Edit: Would have liked to have seen Steven bring in someone like Michael Ferland to fill that spot though. After he didn't sign for a few days following FA, and Steve's comments about bringing in another winger, I thought he'd be a good option but oh well. Edited August 15, 2019 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 622 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 So Fil is taking back his 51 and Nielson is switching to 81. Nemeth will wear 22 1 1 krsmith17 and ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 Odd because Nielsen has to longer contract term left....for now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted August 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Odd because Nielsen has to longer contract term left....for now? Confirmed, Nielsen is being traded... 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted August 16, 2019 14 hours ago, TLGTrico said: So Fil is taking back his 51 and Nielson is switching to 81. Nemeth will wear 22 12 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Confirmed, Nielsen is being traded... What’s interesting is how Fil, and Nielsen are nearly identical; same age, height/weight, both lefty, can play C/W, and are both career 30 to 40 pts per season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted August 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, F.Michael said: What’s interesting is how Fil, and Nielsen are nearly identical; same age, height/weight, both lefty, can play C/W, and are both career 30 to 40 pts per season. Yeah, I mentioned this the day we signed Filppula. The similarities are staggering... They were even drafted just 8 spots apart in 2002. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, TLGTrico said: So Fil is taking back his 51 and Nielson is switching to 81. Nemeth will wear 22 Nielsen should've picked 61 so we could have 41, 51, 61, 71 down the middle Edited August 16, 2019 by amato 2 Jonas Mahonas and ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted August 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, amato said: Nielsen should've picked 61 so we could have 41, 51, 61, 71 down the middle You're forgetting that we already have an elite center wearing that number... So now we have centers wearing 41, 51, 61, 71, AND 81... 1 ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Yeah, I mentioned this the day we signed Filppula. The similarities are staggering... They were even drafted just 8 spots apart in 2002. 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: When did Pastrnak become a Red Wing ??!! Edited August 16, 2019 by F.Michael 2 1 krsmith17, amato and ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: You're forgetting that we already have an elite center wearing that number... So now we have centers wearing 41, 51, 61, 71, AND 81... oh snap, i am! well, that proves it... we're getting rid of glendog millionaire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted September 9, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 2:37 PM, TLGTrico said: So Fil is taking back his 51 and Nielson is switching to 81. Nemeth will wear 22 Jersey sale move. Shoulda had Filps take 15 and Nielsen change to 55. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted September 18, 2019 Always nice to get a well-informed outsider's take on the state of the Wings... https://dobberhockey.com/hockey-home/the-dobotomy/dobbers-offseason-fantasy-grades-2019-detroit-red-wings/ Quote Fantasy Outlook – The Red Wings didn’t have much in the way of appealing players beyond Dylan Larkin a year ago. Just a lot of ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’. In the final quarter, however, Larkin found himself two linemates that were a perfect fit. He, Tyler Bertuzzi and Anthony Mantha were sizzling in the final 25 or 30 games, with Bertuzzi posting four consecutive three-point games inside that stretch. Add Andreas Athanasiou posting improving quarters last year (12 points, 13, 14, and 15 in that order) and suddenly the Wings have a great young top line and a bit of secondary scoring. Between Hronek, Cholowski and possibly Kaski, and the roster is starting to shape up. The prospects in the pipeline are sensational: from Joe Veleno, to Zadina, to Jonatan Berggren, to Jared McIsaac to Moritz Seider the team is just two or three years away from something special. For this year, however, I see just two players topping 55 points, and goaltending is still on the weak side. (I guess I'm spamming Dobber links today.) 1 1 derblaueClaus and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted September 18, 2019 Quote For this year, however, I see just two players topping 55 points, and goaltending is still on the weak side. Seider's getting 56 pts. Nice. 2 derblaueClaus and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Seider's getting 56 pts. Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 22, 2019 I wouldn't mind seeing something like this for the better part of this season... Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Hirose - Filppula - Athanasiou Erne - Nielsen - Kuffner Abdelkader - Glendening - Helm Ehn / de la Rose DeKeyser - Green Nemeth - Hronek Daley - Bowey Ericsson Howard Bernier Terry - Veleno - Zadina Svechnikov - Rasmussen - Puempel Smith - Turgeon - MacLeod Pope - Pearson - Lukosevicius Elson / Ford Cholowski - Seider Hicketts - Kaski Lashoff / McIlrath - Lindstrom Saarijarvi Larsson Pickard It would certainly be a painful season in Detroit, but a fun season in Grand Rapids, while our top prospects continue to develop and gain chemistry in a winning environment. I would definitely watch a lot of Griffins games if they dressed a roster close to this. It would also ensure another top pick in next year's draft... 3 Dabura, Akakabuto and solarion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted September 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I wouldn't mind seeing something like this for the better part of this season... Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Hirose - Filppula - Athanasiou Erne - Nielsen - Kuffner Abdelkader - Glendening - Helm Ehn / de la Rose DeKeyser - Green Nemeth - Hronek Daley - Bowey Ericsson Howard Bernier Terry - Veleno - Zadina Svechnikov - Rasmussen - Puempel Smith - Turgeon - MacLeod Pope - Pearson - Lukosevicius Elson / Ford Cholowski - Seider Hicketts - Kaski Lashoff / McIlrath - Lindstrom Saarijarvi Larsson Pickard It would certainly be a painful season in Detroit, but a fun season in Grand Rapids, while our top prospects continue to develop and gain chemistry in a winning environment. I would definitely watch a lot of Griffins games if they dressed a roster close to this. It would also ensure another top pick in next year's draft... your projected DRW roster is not as painful as last year´s and we all have to realize that there will only be a top pick in the 2020 draft if we win one in the lottery... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted September 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, ely s said: your projected DRW roster is not as painful as last year´s and we all have to realize that there will only be a top pick in the 2020 draft if we win one in the lottery... Ah. But ultimate suckage does guarantee a top 5 pick in a stacked draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, ely s said: your projected DRW roster is not as painful as last year´s... How so? I would say that last year's roster including Nyquist, Vanek, Rasmussen, Ericsson, Jensen was as good or better on paper than this year's roster including Filppula, Hirose, Kuffner, Erne, Nemeth, Bowey... 14 minutes ago, ely s said: ... and we all have to realize that there will only be a top pick in the 2020 draft if we win one in the lottery... I said "another" top pick which would imply top sixish, not necessarily a lottery pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Ah. But ultimate suckage does guarantee a top 5 pick in a stacked draft. ultimate suckage is only guaranteeing a losing habit and I really have a problem with that sort of mentality. I don´t care where you end up at seasons end as long as you give all you have and you try to win every game. If SY is going a different route and going to loose on purpose, that would stop me being a DRW fan, because everything we were told in the last years was "we want to keep a competitive approach and a winning mentality" and I would feel betrayed in a way. We have the assets to start that turnaround during this season and are able to have a team to start next year as a playoff contender. edit:next year is 2020/21... Edited September 22, 2019 by ely s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted September 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, ely s said: ultimate suckage is only guaranteeing a losing habit and I really have a problem with that sort of mentality. I don´t care where you end up at seasons end as long as you give all you have and you try to win every game. If SY is going a different route and going to loose on purpose, that would stop me being a DRW fan, because everything we were told in the last years was "we want to keep a competitive approach and a winning mentality" and I would feel betrayed in a way. We have the assets to start that turnaround during this season and are able to have a team to start next year as a playoff contender. edit:next year is 2020/21... Its extremely important that we get pick 1 or 2 next draft. This team needs an elite player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
