Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 The other Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread has run its course; consider this a continuation/reboot/reset/restart/rebuild/retool. (How very meta.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) April 16th: Tampa is swept by CBJ April 17th: Press conference, Holland steps down as Red Wing GM, Yzerman announced as new GM June 1st: Press conference, Ken Holland is introduced by Dave Tippett as the first GM of the new Seattle franchise June 21st: Pending RFA Brayden Point is traded to Detroit in exchange for Andreas Athanasiou, Jacob De La Rose, and a 2nd round pick in 2019 June 24th: Brayden Point inks a 2 years $6 million AAV contract with the Detroit Red Wings June 25th: Both Nielsen and Daley are bought out of the remainder of their contracts by the Red Wings July 1st: Val Filppula inks a 2 year contract with the Detroit Red Wings worth $1.75 million AAV July 9th: Jacob Trouba accepts an offer sheet from the Detroit Red Wings worth $8 million AAV for 7 years July 15th: The Winnipeg Jets match the Red Wings offer sheet and retain the services of Jacob Trouba Day 1 of 2019/20 hockey in Detroit looks something like this: Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Hirose - Point - Abdelkader Helm - Filppula - Zadina Ehn - Glendening - Rasmussen Svechnikov/Frk/Kuffner Dekeyser - Green Ericsson - Hronek Witkowski - Bowey Sulak/Cholowski Howard Bernier Larkin is given the C, Abdelkader and Dekeyser acts as A's, for the first time in history the Detroit Red Wings field a leadership group of entirely Michigan natives. The forward group clicks and our goals for per game climbs to 3.1 with a PP% hovering around 20% Despite Hronek having a breakout 45 point season, our goals against remains at about 3. Injuries to Howard and average play by Bernier can't bail the defense out. We miss the playoffs and end up picking at #9 overall the next season Edited April 16, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs 3 Hockeymom1960, GMRwings1983 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 Trade Mantha, not AA. Filppula lol, if Holland is gone, how would that happen? That's a pure Holland move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, chaps80 said: Trade Mantha, not AA. Filppula lol, if Holland is gone, how would that happen? That's a pure Holland move. Yzerman has history with Filppula too Yzerman sends a 2nd rounder to Holland the following year to select Helm in the NHL expansion draft Edited April 16, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Yzerman has history with Filppula too Yzerman sends a 2nd rounder to Holland the following year to select Helm in the NHL expansion draft That is true. Now were talkin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: April 16th: Tampa is swept by CBJ April 17th: Press conference, Holland steps down as Red Wing GM, Yzerman announced as new GM June 1st: Press conference, Ken Holland is introduced by Dave Tippett as the first GM of the new Seattle franchise June 21st: Pending RFA Brayden Point is traded to Detroit in exchange for Andreas Athanasiou, Jacob De La Rose, and a 2nd round pick in 2019 June 24th: Brayden Point inks a 2 years $6 million AAV contract with the Detroit Red Wings June 25th: Both Nielsen and Daley are bought out of the remainder of their contracts by the Red Wings July 1st: Val Filppula inks a 2 year contract with the Detroit Red Wings worth $1.75 million AAV July 9th: Jacob Trouba accepts an offer sheet from the Detroit Red Wings worth $8 million AAV for 7 years July 15th: The Winnipeg Jets match the Red Wings offer sheet and retain the services of Jacob Trouba Day 1 of 2019/20 hockey in Detroit looks something like this: Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Hirose - Point - Abdelkader Helm - Filppula - Zadina Ehn - Glendening - Rasmussen Svechnikov/Frk/Kuffner Dekeyser - Green Ericsson - Hronek Witkowski - Bowey Sulak/Cholowski Howard Bernier Larkin is given the C, Abdelkader and Dekeyser acts as A's, for the first time in history the Detroit Red Wings field a leadership group of entirely Michigan natives. The forward group clicks and our goals for per game climbs to 3.1 with a PP% hovering around 20% Despite Hronek having a breakout 45 point season, our goals against remains at about 3. Injuries to Howard and average play by Bernier can't bail the defense out. We miss the playoffs and end up picking at #9 overall the next season Trade a 55 pts, 30 goal scorer entering his prime? Please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Trade a 55 pts, 30 goal scorer entering his prime? Please You got me there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 626 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: You got me there Point would be major upgrade over AA, so I'd be fine with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, TLGTrico said: Point would be major upgrade over AA, so I'd be fine with it. A 23 year old 40 goal scorer with 90+ points Is better than a 24 year old 30 goal scorer with 50+ points? How do ya figure?? 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 Get us Stamkos while you're at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Get us Stamkos while you're at it. Ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 I'm much more excited about the "Official 2020 Offseason Rebuild Thread", but here goes... Steve Yzerman becomes General Manager Ken Holland becomes President of Hockey Ops. Trade: CAR: Evgeny Svechnikov, 2019 2nd round pick (SJS) DET: Adam Fox Draft: Dylan Cozens 6th overall Brett Leason 35th overall. Signed: Joe Veleno - 3 years, $925K AAV (ELC) Dylan Cozens - 3 years, $925K AAV (ELC) Martin Frk - 1 year, $950K Luke Witkowski - 2 years, $800K AAV Dominic Turgeon - 2 years, $750K AAV Axel Holmstrom - 2 years, $700K AAV Libor Sulak - 2 years, $750K AAV Joe Hicketts - 2 years, $750K AAV Jake Chelios - 2 years, $700K AAV Dylan McIlrath - 2 years, $700K AAV Patrik Rybar - 1 year, $950K Unsigned: Wade Megan Dylan Sadowy Harri Sateri Retired: Niklas Kronwall Thomas Vanek Bought Out: Trevor Daley (2019-20 cap hit - $1,699,999 / 2020-21 cap hit - $733,333) Waived: Jacob de la Rose Red Wings Lineup: Tyler Bertuzzi - Dylan Larkin - Anthony Mantha Taro Hirose - Andreas Athanasiou - Filip Zadina Christoffer Ehn - Frans Nielsen - Darren Helm Justin Abdelkader - Dominic Turgeon - Luke Glendening Martin Frk / Luke Witkowski Danny DeKeyser - Mike Green Jonathan Ericsson - Filip Hronek Dennis Cholowski - Madison Bowey Joe Hicketts Jimmy Howard Jonathan Bernier Griffins Lineup: Michael Rasmussen - Joe Veleno - Chris Terry Matt Puempel - Carter Camper - Ryan Kuffner Turner Elson - Axel Holmstrom - Givani Smith David Pope - Chase Pearson - Matthew Ford Colin Campbell / Dominic Shine Brian Lashoff - Adam Fox Libor Sulak - Vili Saarijarvi Jake Chelios - Dylan McIlrath Trevor Hamilton Patrik Rybar Filip Larsson 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 9 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: April 16th: Tampa is swept by CBJ April 17th: Press conference, Holland steps down as Red Wing GM, Yzerman announced as new GM June 1st: Press conference, Ken Holland is introduced by Dave Tippett as the first GM of the new Seattle franchise June 21st: Pending RFA Brayden Point is traded to Detroit in exchange for Andreas Athanasiou, Jacob De La Rose, and a 2nd round pick in 2019 June 24th: Brayden Point inks a 2 years $6 million AAV contract with the Detroit Red Wings June 25th: Both Nielsen and Daley are bought out of the remainder of their contracts by the Red Wings July 1st: Val Filppula inks a 2 year contract with the Detroit Red Wings worth $1.75 million AAV July 9th: Jacob Trouba accepts an offer sheet from the Detroit Red Wings worth $8 million AAV for 7 years July 15th: The Winnipeg Jets match the Red Wings offer sheet and retain the services of Jacob Trouba Day 1 of 2019/20 hockey in Detroit looks something like this: Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Hirose - Point - Abdelkader Helm - Filppula - Zadina Ehn - Glendening - Rasmussen Svechnikov/Frk/Kuffner Dekeyser - Green Ericsson - Hronek Witkowski - Bowey Sulak/Cholowski Howard Bernier Larkin is given the C, Abdelkader and Dekeyser acts as A's, for the first time in history the Detroit Red Wings field a leadership group of entirely Michigan natives. The forward group clicks and our goals for per game climbs to 3.1 with a PP% hovering around 20% Despite Hronek having a breakout 45 point season, our goals against remains at about 3. Injuries to Howard and average play by Bernier can't bail the defense out. We miss the playoffs and end up picking at #9 overall the next season Abdelkader on a higher line than Zadina? I think not. That defense, BTW, would be the slowest in the history of the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) Holland sticks around. Illitch Jr is too busy sucking the cheese out of his crust to give AF Yzerman gets mad and goes to NYR Wings draft Mathew Boldy Holland overpays for Jake Gardiner and Jordan Eberle Kronwall and Vanek come back for one more season Zadina, Rasmussen, Svechnikov, and Cholowski start the year in GRs and they have a good team. __________________________________ Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Hirose - AA - Eberle Vanek - Nielsen - Helm Ehn - Glendenning - Abdlekader DLR DeKeyser Gardiner Kronwall Green Ericsson Hronek Daley Witkowski Howard/Bernier Edit: forgot David Bowie. I dunno, f*** it. Green's thing comes back and he misses most of the season. Then there's a spot for him on D. Edited April 16, 2019 by The 91 of Ryans 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 Wouldnt buy out anyone this summer. Daley only has a year left. No reason to. Had a down season for sure, but may bounce back this year and get us a pick back at TDL. Abby, Helm, and Nielsen all have too many years left to consider it yet. Yzerman returns in some capacity. Holland sticks around for at least another year. Not looking to make any trades necessarily. But if I did, it would be to bolster the blue line. I think AA would get u more back now and I think Mantha will eventually be the more valuable player. Larkin, Bert and Zadina are off limits. I would consider trading Moose tho. Offer sheet route would be a mistake. I think Trouba could be acquired thru a trade. NO UFA SIGNINGS!!!! No Kronwall. No Vanek. No Karlsson. Maybe Wit. 1 1 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Wouldnt buy out anyone this summer. Daley only has a year left. No reason to. Had a down season for sure, but may bounce back this year and get us a pick back at TDL. Abby, Helm, and Nielsen all have too many years left to consider it yet. Yzerman returns in some capacity. Holland sticks around for at least another year. Not looking to make any trades necessarily. But if I did, it would be to bolster the blue line. I think AA would get u more back now and I think Mantha will eventually be the more valuable player. Larkin, Bert and Zadina are off limits. I would consider trading Moose tho. Offer sheet route would be a mistake. I think Trouba could be acquired thru a trade. NO UFA SIGNINGS!!!! No Kronwall. No Vanek. No Karlsson. Maybe Wit. Completely agree with everything here, except the buy-out part. I agree that any of the guys with two or more years left would be a mistake, but Daley or Ericsson, with only one year remaining, wouldn't cost much at all short-term or long-term. It's not about saving cap space, because we should have plenty over the next two seasons, but we need roster spots freed up on the back end sooner than later. If we could trade one of them, retaining salary, even better. But if not, I'd be totally fine with a buy-out on one of them (preferably Daley). We currently have Green, DeKeyser, Daley, Ericsson and maybe Kronwall. In my opinion, Hronek, Cholowski, Bowey all need full time spots in the lineup, and I'd really take a run at Adam Fox as well. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: Completely agree with everything here, except the buy-out part. I agree that any of the guys with two or more years left would be a mistake, but Daley or Ericsson, with only one year remaining, wouldn't cost much at all short-term or long-term. It's not about saving cap space, because we should have plenty over the next two seasons, but we need roster spots freed up on the back end sooner than later. If we could trade one of them, retaining salary, even better. But if not, I'd be totally fine with a buy-out on one of them (preferably Daley). We currently have Green, DeKeyser, Daley, Ericsson and maybe Kronwall. In my opinion, Hronek, Cholowski, Bowey all need full time spots in the lineup, and I'd really take a run at Adam Fox as well. Plus, gotta make room for Gardiner. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Holland sticks around. Illitch Jr is too busy sucking the cheese out of his crust to give AF Yzerman gets mad and goes to NYR Wings draft Mathew Boldy Holland overpays for Jake Gardiner and Jordan Eberle Kronwall and Vanek come back for one more season Zadina, Rasmussen, Svechnikov, and Cholowski start the year in GRs and they have a good team. 18 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Plus, gotta make room for Gardiner. Get the f*** outta here with all that negative s***... 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Get the f*** outta here with all that negative s***... Oh you don't want to see me really being negative Also, I thought it was obvious I was trying to trigger the susceptible. But you know about half of what I said is coming true. Here, I'll bold: 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Holland sticks around. Illitch Jr is too busy sucking the cheese out of his crust to give AF Yzerman gets mad and goes to NYR Wings draft Mathew Boldy Holland overpays for Jake Gardiner and Jordan Eberle Kronwall and Vanek come back for one more season Zadina, Rasmussen, Svechnikov, and Cholowski start the year in GRs and they have a good team. Edited April 16, 2019 by The 91 of Ryans 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Oh you don't want to see me really being negative Also, I thought it was obvious I was trying to trigger the susceptible. But you know about half of what I said is coming true. Here, I'll bold: Yeah, pretty much. Except for Zadina. I think he'll start the season in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, GMRwings1983 said: Abdelkader on a higher line than Zadina? I think not. That defense, BTW, would be the slowest in the history of the NHL. Abby's got gumption. Our defense is never gonna be good again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Holland sticks around. Illitch Jr is too busy sucking the cheese out of his crust to give AF Yzerman gets mad and goes to NYR Wings draft Mathew Boldy Holland overpays for Jake Gardiner and Jordan Eberle Kronwall and Vanek come back for one more season Zadina, Rasmussen, Svechnikov, and Cholowski start the year in GRs and they have a good team. __________________________________ Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Hirose - AA - Eberle Vanek - Nielsen - Helm Ehn - Glendenning - Abdlekader DLR DeKeyser Gardiner Kronwall Green Ericsson Hronek Daley Witkowski Howard/Bernier Edit: forgot David Bowie. I dunno, f*** it. Green's thing comes back and he misses most of the season. Then there's a spot for him on D. That team could certainly beat the 1993 Senators in a 7 game series. 1 1 Rick D and The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Abby's got gumption. Our defense is never gonna be good again. Has any team had a defense this bad for this long in the modern era? Serious question. 1 minute ago, GMRwings1983 said: That team could certainly beat the 1993 Senators in a 7 game series. f*** why didn't I just cut/paste the 93 Sens roster. That would have been funnier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Has any team had a defense this bad for this long in the modern era? Serious question. f*** why didn't I just cut/paste the 93 Sens roster. That would have been funnier. For the first time in a long time I'm actually hopeful. Hronek actually had a really good season for a rookie. Cholowski and McIssac could both be studs. This D is gonna be BAD next year thou unless something changes 3 Dabura, krsmith17 and The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Has any team had a defense this bad for this long in the modern era? Serious question. The past couple years it's been BAD, but it could / should be much better in the not too distant future... DeKeyser, Cholowski, Hronek, Lindstrom, McIsaac, Bowey isn't a terrible young corps to build around. Add in a Trouba, Fox or Byram via free agency, trade or draft and we could be looking pretty good in the next few years... 2 Dabura and The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites