kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 If Hoffman was a center he’d have a contract by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 What the heck is happening in Mantha and Timashov land? If it was going to drag out like this, why TF didn't one side just file arbitration in the Mantha contract negotiations? Geezus, get this done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRusco 43 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/anthony-mantha-signed-to-four-year-deal/c-319568676?fbclid=IwAR2xxg7Q8ShDuGUoweP7Kvelwzopgq7LCy-Xt9Lxgz7GQe5RUAwvDlrWkwU Edited November 3, 2020 by WRusco Anthony Mantha 4 yr,$5.7 AAV 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 $3.3M AAV Shocked by this contract. Unreal value for the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRusco 43 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Hockey Feed showing $5.7AAV 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, WRusco said: Hockey Feed showing $5.7AAV Yeah, my bad. I had a quick look at cap friendly, and seen $3.3M. Didn't realize that was his last contract... $5.7M would make much more sense lol. Still a very good contract. Anything sub $6M and I was going to be happy. 4 years is decent term. I would have preferred a little longer, but with all the injuries, it makes sense. 1 WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Good contract. Not surprised though. Yzerman seems to have a pretty solid grip on this. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 318 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Holy crap...I figured if he was gonna take under 6 he'd sign another bridge...great deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Hell yeah, Mantha! Now there's a four year extension we can all agree on! 4 1 Akakabuto, arag, The 91 of Ryans and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Damn, that Fabbri contract sure f***ed up the Mantha deal 2 1 krsmith17, The 91 of Ryans and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRusco 43 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Found this. Anthony Mantha. $4.5 Mil $5.3 Mil $6.5 Mil $6.5 Mil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 452 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, WRusco said: Found this. Anthony Mantha. $4.5 Mil $5.3 Mil $6.5 Mil $6.5 Mil Perfect Covid Rate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Larkin and Mantha are the only current roster players under contract beyond next season (2021-22). Both should outperform their respective contracts over the next 3-4 seasons. Great deals. This team should get very young, very quick. With a ton of players on ELC's and bridge contracts over the next several years, it's a prime opportunity to pursue some big name free agents, and get back in contention. 3 WRusco, LeftWinger and town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 Timashov should fall right in pretty quickly, probably $1M or less. If not, I am not too worried if he doesn't sign or gets an offer sheet. Now, let's get one more forward to better our team and give us another asset to deal at the TDL, whether it be a UFA or via trade and let's get this party started! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, marcaractac said: Damn, that Fabbri contract sure f***ed up the Mantha deal Nice try. I said the Fabbri deal could affect one or both of Mantha or Bertuzzi's negotiations by encouraging them to ask for more than they're worth. Mantha didn't. Bert did. He was the first Red Wing to go all the way through the arbitration process in many years, and the award he received was closer to the team's ask than his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, kipwinger said: Nice try. I said the Fabbri deal could affect one or both of Mantha or Bertuzzi's negotiations by encouraging them to ask for more than they're worth. Mantha didn't. Bert did. He was the first Red Wing to go all the way through the arbitration process in many years, and the award he received was closer to the team's ask than his. So you're saying that the Fabbri contract affected the Bertuzzi contract, and caused him to sign below market value? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted November 4, 2020 14 hours ago, kipwinger said: Nice try. I said the Fabbri deal could affect one or both of Mantha or Bertuzzi's negotiations by encouraging them to ask for more than they're worth. Mantha didn't. Bert did. He was the first Red Wing to go all the way through the arbitration process in many years, and the award he received was closer to the team's ask than his. You must be really fun at parties. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRusco 43 Report post Posted November 4, 2020 Steve Yzerman Presser. 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, SwedeLundin7 said: Predicted Lines for opening night Fillppula - Fabbri - Mantha Bertuzzi - Larkin - Ryan Glendening - Namestnikov - Zadina Erne - Helm/Nielsen - Gagner Staal - Hronek Nemeth - Stecher Dekeyser - Merrill Bernier Greiss Logic: Line 1: Fabbri is more of a playmaker than Larkin and this can aid Mantha. Fil is a steady defensive vet presence to anchor the line. Line 2: Larkin and Ryan are friends. Line 3: Zadina can capitalize on weaker defenders from line 3. Line 4: Special teams line Pairing 1: Staal offers vet presence and can get playing time to boost his value at the TDL Pairing 2: Defensive D with a somewhat more offensive D. Pairing 3: Michigan pair Goalie: Bernier's earned it I like the logic. Thoughts? Thoughts? How about HSJ is a hack. 3 1 NiggerGuy, RapeApe, krsmith17 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 5, 2020 9 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Thoughts? How about HSJ is a hack. Yeah, I'm not sure what is worse, Fabbri as the 1C over Larkin, or Staal as the 1D over literally anyone else. I do like that line of Bertuzzi - Larkin - Ryan though. Everything else is kind of WTF? 2 NiggerGuy and RapeApe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 5, 2020 I'm bored. I miss hockey. There's not even any SHL games to watch this week... What do people think Yzerman should do with the remaining $9.5M (+$6M Zetterberg LTIR) in cap space? Sign another free agent? Offer sheet? Trade for a bad contract? Nothing? A Hoffman signing would be a great add. He should easily net a late 1st round pick at next year's trade deadline. I know it's a pipe dream, but I'd still love to see a Sergachev offer sheet. I'd take on a bad contract, but I'd be holding out for a 1st round pick at minimum. The number of teams that need to shed varying amounts of cap space is staggering... 2 NiggerGuy and RapeApe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted November 5, 2020 Hronek is playing against sweden right now berggren playing for sweden 2 1 NiggerGuy, krsmith17 and RapeApe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ely s said: Hronek is playing against sweden right now berggren playing for sweden Nice! Not sure how I missed this... Thanks! Hronek with a goal and an assist so far. Our old friend Andrej Nestrasil with a couple primary assists as well... Edited November 5, 2020 by krsmith17 2 NiggerGuy and RapeApe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, SwedeLundin7 said: I like Fabbri as the 1C. HSJ is right that he may indeed be the better playmaker than Larkin. His assists per 60 are nearly as high as Larkin's already, and he's a rising star on this team. Yzerman already said he wants him to move to center so obviously the team is going to lean harder on him. Meanwhile Larkin is trending downward in production. This play making ability could be just what Mantha needs from his centerman. Larkin is this team's best center, and it's not even close. Fabbri has not played any significant amount of time at center in his NHL career, and you think it's smart to thrust him into the 1C slot, ahead of Larkin? This makes zero sense to me. I'm all for trying Fabbri at center, but I'm not sure if I want him as our 2C, let alone 1C. Ideally Fabbri slots in as the 3C, behind Larkin and Namestnikov (or Filppula). People complain about Larkin as our 1C. Fabbri would get eaten alive as a 1C. Larkin is the rising star on this team, not Fabbri. Don't get me wrong, I like Fabbri, but he's a middle six winger, maybe a middle six center. He's not, and likely never will be a 1C. Larkin is not at all trending downward... 1 hour ago, SwedeLundin7 said: I also like the idea of splitting up Larkin and Mantha. It adds some depth to the lines and makes the 2nd line a legit scoring threat that teams will have to match up against. Kind of like how Babcock used to split up Zetterberg and Datsyuk. This, I agree with. Everything else, not so much. 2 RapeApe and NiggerGuy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted November 5, 2020 You don't (maybe) ask a guy to switch to C and then ask him to be the team's #1 C. The fact that this is even a discussion is bonkers 3 RapeApe, krsmith17 and NiggerGuy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites