ely s 457 Report post Posted October 16, 2020 Albin Grewe scoring his first point(assist), of the season playing on the 4th line for Djurgardens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 175 Report post Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 4:40 PM, krsmith17 said: Can anyone explain why this wasn't a goal??? Great to see him drive the net. Would have been a good goal in the NHL... Perhaps they have some stupid rule about goalies losing their stick or they thought Berggren knocked his stick from the goalie? Hate to have a pretty nice play go unrewarded in that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRusco 43 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Joe Velano playing for the Malmo Redhawks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, WRusco said: Joe Velano playing for the Malmo Redhawks. Veleno vs Raymond today at 1:00 EST. 1 WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRusco 43 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Forgot the link. Seider, Velano and Berggren. Looks like Velano having trouble with the big International ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, WRusco said: Forgot the link. Seider, Velano and Berggren. Looks like Velano having trouble with the big International ice. Zadina looks like a beast in these highlights. 1 WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,751 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, FlipLiquid said: Gaudreau wears Datsyuk's #13 Your trolling has gone too far. 1 WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, FlipLiquid said: From what I can tell of his lineup: Zadina - Larkin - Gurianov Mantha - Wahlstrom - Raymond Bertuzzi - Veleno - Gaudreau Tatar - Athanasiou - Kessell Hjalmarsson - Brannstrom Giordano - Montour Seider Bernier Mantha plays center on the PP Gaudreau wears Datsyuk's #13 and Giordano wears Kronwall's #55. I hate his voice and I hate him It's probably @nyqvististhefuture Just now, Akakabuto said: Your trolling has gone too far. Patiently waiting for him to eventually choose between Rusco, Flip, Luther Manhole, and Yucatan......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Frolunda currently have Raymond playing 2nd line wing, Soderblom 3rd line wing, and Niederbach called up, looks like extra forward (not sure if he'll play today)... 2 1 The 91 of Ryans, WRusco and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Zetterberg and Kronwall watching the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,751 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Zetterberg and Kronwall watching the game. By the swedish newspaper Aftonbladet's live feed it's reported that Kronwall is drinking beer and Zetterberg water. 1 WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: By the swedish newspaper Aftonbladet's live feed it's reported that Kronwall is drinking beer and Zetterberg water. LOL it looked like a bottle of vodka or something to me, unless it was a very fancy bottle of water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Veleno with his first point in his third game. Really nice assist. 1 WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,751 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: LOL it looked like a bottle of vodka or something to me, unless it was a very fancy bottle of water. I hope it’s vodka. It would be nice if the one who’s on the clock tonight as a member of Detroits player development staff isn’t the only one boozin’. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 nice goal from Veleno 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Veleno played his way up in the roster, the last 3-4 minutes he played every other shift, looked good on a bad team. 2 krsmith17 and WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, ely s said: nice goal from Veleno Had to leave with three minutes left in the game. Missed the goal... Just caught the highlight though. For anyone that didn't catch the game... 1 2 ely s, Akakabuto and The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 That's a nice goal, and the sort of offense I'd want to see from him in this league. Good to see his skill game coming along. When you watch his highlights from last season in the AHL there were a lot of junk goals and secondary assists, which makes me skeptical of his offensive upside. If he can consistently score in ways like today I'll feel a lot better about his scoring game. 2 Akakabuto and WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 I see Raymond had a PP assist in this game as well. 1 WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I see Raymond had a PP assist in this game as well. Yup. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, kipwinger said: That's a nice goal, and the sort of offense I'd want to see from him in this league. Good to see his skill game coming along. When you watch his highlights from last season in the AHL there were a lot of junk goals and secondary assists, which makes me skeptical of his offensive upside. If he can consistently score in ways like today I'll feel a lot better about his scoring game. Veleno has always been a year ahead in his development, compared to his peers. He was drafted into the QMJHL a year early, and 4 years later made the jump to the AHL a year early. He should have never been in the AHL last season, only for the exceptional status. He still put up nearly half a point per game as a 19/20 year old rookie, playing against men. I don't see any reason to be skeptical of Veleno's offensive upside. I still think he'll be a legit 2C capable of putting up 50+ points. 1 Keep Your Stick On the Ice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Veleno has always been a year ahead in his development, compared to his peers. He was drafted into the QMJHL a year early, and 4 years later made the jump to the AHL a year early. He should have never been in the AHL last season, only for the exceptional status. He still put up nearly half a point per game as a 19/20 year old rookie, playing against men. I don't see any reason to be skeptical of Veleno's offensive upside. I still think he'll be a legit 2C capable of putting up 50+ points. Veleno didn't "jump to the AHL early". He was drafted at 18, played his draft +1 year in the QMJHL at 19, and debuted in the AHL at 20. For comparison's sake, Zadina debuted in the AHL as a 19 year old, and Seider did so at 18. THEY jumped to the AHL early. Veleno was only "early" compared to other CHL players because of their agreement with the NHL. Europeans do it all the time. And by way of a comparison, Zadina was a MUCH more productive AHL player at 19 than Veleno was at 20. Probably because Veleno's offense needs some work. Questions about Veleno's offensive upside didn't originate with me, and they were the reason he fell all the way down the draft board. If you wanna pretend like they don't exist that's on you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 681 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Veleno has always been a year ahead in his development, compared to his peers. He was drafted into the QMJHL a year early, and 4 years later made the jump to the AHL a year early. He should have never been in the AHL last season, only for the exceptional status. He still put up nearly half a point per game as a 19/20 year old rookie, playing against men. I don't see any reason to be skeptical of Veleno's offensive upside. I still think he'll be a legit 2C capable of putting up 50+ points. Another Larkin would be useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Veleno didn't "jump to the AHL early". He was drafted at 18, played his draft +1 year in the QMJHL at 19, and debuted in the AHL at 20. For comparison's sake, Zadina debuted in the AHL as a 19 year old, and Seider did so at 18. THEY jumped to the AHL early. Veleno was only "early" compared to other CHL players because of their agreement with the NHL. Europeans do it all the time. And by way of a comparison, Zadina was a MUCH more productive AHL player at 19 than Veleno was at 20. Probably because Veleno's offense needs some work. Questions about Veleno's offensive upside didn't originate with me, and they were the reason he fell all the way down the draft board. If you wanna pretend like they don't exist that's on you. LOL settle down there guy... Veleno debuted in the AHL at 19. He played 3 1/2 months as a 19 year old, 2 months as a 20 year old. And he absolutely did jump to the AHL early. If you want to pretend he didn't just because some other European's have jumped earlier, that's on you... Zadina was drafted 6th overall. Veleno was drafted 30th overall. Big difference. Veleno is still ahead of guys like Dellandrea and Foudy offensively, who were both drafted ahead of him. I'm not saying that Veleno is an elite offensive dynamo. I'm saying that his offensive deficiencies are being vastly overstated. You said "Good to see his skill game coming along". The skill game has always been there. He demonstrated that in his D+1 season, and once he's adapted to playing against men, he will show it in the AHL, and eventually NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, mackel said: Another Larkin would be useful. If Veleno turns into another Larkin I'll be thrilled. But I don't think a center group anchored by two guys like that would stand much of a chance against the top offensive centers in the league. I don't think they'd score enough, in enough different ways, to compete for a Cup. But it's nothing to turn your nose up at. I'd rather have two guys like that than just one. I mean, there ARE examples of teams that have won the Cup without elite offensive centers. Boston in 2011, St. Louis a couple years ago. But it's not like those were dominant teams that had staying power. Hardly the teams I'd be trying to emulate as a GM. The ONLY team that was both dominant, and weak at center, was Chicago and they happened to have HoF level talent at defense (Keith) and on the wings (Kane and Hossa). So I suppose if we want to be weak down the middle we might wanna find some Hall of Fame level talent everywhere else, and pronto. 2 FlipLiquid and WRusco reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites