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#2618397 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by darkmanx on Yesterday, 04:38 PM


More Green on TSN: "I was willing to take a little bit less on term to go to a great organization that I’m extremely excited to play for."

#2618407 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by Copenhagen848 on Yesterday, 04:42 PM

It's laughable at how people complain about Holland doing nothing in years past, and now he goes out a makes some deals today, and some people still complain.


Holland signed one of the biggest d-man F/A's today, then picks up an UPGRADE over Weiss, for only one year, and people still aren't happy.


I'm 100% happy with what Holland did today.  Well done, sir!

#2617753 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by Playmaker on 30 June 2015 - 08:53 PM

This reminds me of one of the things I really didn't like about Babcock, though I didn't dislike him overall.


I don't think he put a lot of guys, most of those mentioned and David Legwand comes to mind as well, in a position to succeed.  Every guy is not a two way player that can play all three forward positions on all four lines. Seems like he was hell bent on forcing square pegs into round holes.   Not to sound like Dennis Green, but they are what we thought they were.  This is where I think there was a disconnect between Holland and Babcock.  Hated the Tootoo signing and he always annoyed me, but I actually felt sorry for him and for how he was treated.  Feeling the same with Weiss, although I think injuries were a major part of his issue.  I'm a little disappointed that we won't get to see if he could have succeeded with Babcock gone.

#2617466 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 30 June 2015 - 10:31 AM

It's been said repeatedly in this thread-this year's UFA class *sucks*. Why are people distraught that Kenny doesn't want to play in the muck? We have awesome prospects coming up, and I for one don't want to hamstring this team with overblown contracts on mediocre players that will then turn around and ass eff us when we try to keep all our young guys down the line.

That being said, I certainly wouldn't mind a good trade or two, but I want nothing to do with UFAs this year.

#2617406 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by Buppy on 29 June 2015 - 10:55 PM

I think if holland signed anyone people on here would be complaining about it. There's nobody in this UFA class that is worth overpaying for. I would love to have green but he's going to get paid way too much and that kind of overpayment wouldn't be worth throwing a wrench in the development of our prospects. At least one of those guys (ouellette, marchenko, sproul, Jensen) needs to get significant playing time next year

There's maybe not even anyone worth underpaying. Just adds to the logjam and depending on how Datsyuk and Zetterberg go, we could still be a worse team next year.


I'm all for some trades, and if we were to move a few people out it could make room for a UFA or two. But I hope Holland isn't feeling any pressure to sign someone just to appease the fans or upper management. 

#2617383 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by kliq on 29 June 2015 - 09:08 PM

Not surprised one bit, but still disappointing. Standing pat when making first round exits is not okay. All other teams are constantly aiming to improve any way they can. Wings have more prospects than they can keep, why not use some to bring in a quality player? More teams are passing the Wings up because they're willing to take chances and make moves. At least find someone to dump Weiss on. I'd even be happy with that and clearing space.


If we had an aging roster....I agree. When you are re-building, standing pat and letting your players develop is not a bad thing.

#2617378 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by greenrebellion on 29 June 2015 - 08:44 PM

I am fine with standing pat this off-season as well.  Give the kids the playing time.

#2617150 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Dabura on 28 June 2015 - 05:21 PM

Re: Trading Howard...


Hell no. Unless it makes perfect sense for us.


This is a two-goalie league; if you want to win the Cup, a 1a-1b tandem is pretty much a prerequisite (unless you have a perennial Vezina candidate who's durable as hell and consistently excellent). Look at what Darling did for Chicago. Look at what Vasilevskiy did for Tampa. Look at what Talbot did for New York. Look at what Hammond did for Ottawa. Hell, look at what Ozzie did for us in 2008. Hasek faltered (as designated starters are wont to do), and we needed a starter-caliber replacement. If Ozzie is instead some random backup, do we win the Cup that year?


Howard-Mrazek would and will be one of the league's best tandems (if not the best), and it'll cost us a combined cap hit of, like, $7M. It's pretty much an ideal situation. Howard was an All-Star last season (pre-injury, of course) and his "backup" is a prodigious stud. They'll push each other, bring out the best in each other. It'll be great.


For the first time in foreverrrrrr, I'm not the least bit concerned about the talent in net.

#2617067 Free agents this off season

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 28 June 2015 - 12:12 AM

he is but I could see us trying to use him there just because his hollands type ;)
no but seriously I have had my eyes on two centers that might be a good fit depending on term one is Vermette  and the other is roy I like Antoine vermette more but I guess it all depends on where we could slot him as far as d goes im  only into green or franson but its unlikely we go for green Ithink he will ask for too much plus Kenny wants the kids to come up im just afraid of what this team will look like with the same d core ......

Holland doesn't sign small old slow wingers to move them to center.
And our d will probably look the same, with Xavier oulette and/or marchenko on the team.

But it'll be alright.

#2616006 Yzerman wins GM of Year (& other awards discussion)

Posted by rick zombo on 24 June 2015 - 10:40 PM

Late 1990's to the early 2000's...Even with all that $$$, and a all-star roster the team failed to make the playoffs for 7 seasons in a row.
EDIT - I know I'm dating myself by going back to previous seasons...Just that I feel Stevie Y is by far the most deserving.

I agree. I'm mostly just being a jerk. I don't want the competition to succeed at all. Even Stevie. I just can't cheer for the GM of the team that dealt the Wings their most recent playoff loss. Same way I won't be hoping for Babcock to win the Jack Adams anytime soon.

#2592089 Will Wings Revisit Signing Phaneuf?

Posted by Yzerfan87 on 10 April 2015 - 03:15 PM

A young, super aggressive right handed offensive defenseman with LOTS of snarl is EXACTLY what this team needs (considering our current roster is literally 100% pussified)

Phaneuf is 30, and left handed.

#2615000 Free agents this off season

Posted by VM1138 on 17 June 2015 - 10:10 PM

Saw on twitter something about how the flyers haven't made any contact with lecavaliers agent on buying him out .... I was curious and went and check

Lecavalier has 3 years 4.5 cap hit left

I'm Not saying id do it but weiss has 3 years and 4.9 cap hit left

Would anyone take a gamble and make the trade?and then buy out lecavalier if he's god awful?

Contracts similar so it's 2 teams trading a problem for another

I'd probably try and trade weiss with some of his salary paid , rather then dealing with his contract for 4 years , or the 2nd option would be to just bury him in Grand Rapids for the season


Lecavalier is worse than Weiss at this point.  Weiss can still rebound. Lecavalier is done.

I can see a Phaneuf for Weiss, Smith and a 1st trade happening at the draft.


Babcock will never let this happen.  His going there has basically killed any chance of getting Phaneuf.


I know he's not a defenseman, but if the Sharks are shopping Thornton I'd definitely inquire about what it would take to get him.  He'd really solidify us up front, where we still need a little work, even if it's not the number one priority.

#2614884 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by number9 on 16 June 2015 - 10:41 PM


False. The team in front of him can never get in done in the playoffs. It isn't his job to score goals. 


Their problem has always been center depth. Stacked at G. Stacked at D. Nash and company at wing (even though Nash choked).


To me Brassard and Stepan are both great 2nd line centers. But they're going to compare to the Datsyuks, Toews, Kopitars, and Stamkos's of this league.

#2614883 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by marcaractac on 16 June 2015 - 10:36 PM

"King Henrik" is about as intimidating as a pair of dress socks. Guy can't get it done in the playoffs. I'll count him out for next season right now. He is overblown.


False. The team in front of him can never get in done in the playoffs. It isn't his job to score goals. 

#2614610 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by aflac9262 on 15 June 2015 - 09:56 PM

Quite the dynasty these Blackhawks have established. They are the "Red Wings" of this era so-to-speak. Meanwhile, Ken Holland is kicking tires debating to himself if he will re-sign Dan Cleary. Oh how the times change. :P