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#2617378 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by greenrebellion on 29 June 2015 - 08:44 PM

I am fine with standing pat this off-season as well.  Give the kids the playing time.

#2617150 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Dabura on 28 June 2015 - 05:21 PM

Re: Trading Howard...


Hell no. Unless it makes perfect sense for us.


This is a two-goalie league; if you want to win the Cup, a 1a-1b tandem is pretty much a prerequisite (unless you have a perennial Vezina candidate who's durable as hell and consistently excellent). Look at what Darling did for Chicago. Look at what Vasilevskiy did for Tampa. Look at what Talbot did for New York. Look at what Hammond did for Ottawa. Hell, look at what Ozzie did for us in 2008. Hasek faltered (as designated starters are wont to do), and we needed a starter-caliber replacement. If Ozzie is instead some random backup, do we win the Cup that year?


Howard-Mrazek would and will be one of the league's best tandems (if not the best), and it'll cost us a combined cap hit of, like, $7M. It's pretty much an ideal situation. Howard was an All-Star last season (pre-injury, of course) and his "backup" is a prodigious stud. They'll push each other, bring out the best in each other. It'll be great.


For the first time in foreverrrrrr, I'm not the least bit concerned about the talent in net.

#2617067 Free agents this off season

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 28 June 2015 - 12:12 AM

he is but I could see us trying to use him there just because his hollands type ;)
no but seriously I have had my eyes on two centers that might be a good fit depending on term one is Vermette  and the other is roy I like Antoine vermette more but I guess it all depends on where we could slot him as far as d goes im  only into green or franson but its unlikely we go for green Ithink he will ask for too much plus Kenny wants the kids to come up im just afraid of what this team will look like with the same d core ......

Holland doesn't sign small old slow wingers to move them to center.
And our d will probably look the same, with Xavier oulette and/or marchenko on the team.

But it'll be alright.

#2616006 Yzerman wins GM of Year (& other awards discussion)

Posted by rick zombo on 24 June 2015 - 10:40 PM

Late 1990's to the early 2000's...Even with all that $$$, and a all-star roster the team failed to make the playoffs for 7 seasons in a row.
EDIT - I know I'm dating myself by going back to previous seasons...Just that I feel Stevie Y is by far the most deserving.

I agree. I'm mostly just being a jerk. I don't want the competition to succeed at all. Even Stevie. I just can't cheer for the GM of the team that dealt the Wings their most recent playoff loss. Same way I won't be hoping for Babcock to win the Jack Adams anytime soon.

#2592089 Will Wings Revisit Signing Phaneuf?

Posted by Yzerfan87 on 10 April 2015 - 03:15 PM

A young, super aggressive right handed offensive defenseman with LOTS of snarl is EXACTLY what this team needs (considering our current roster is literally 100% pussified)

Phaneuf is 30, and left handed.

#2615000 Free agents this off season

Posted by VM1138 on 17 June 2015 - 10:10 PM

Saw on twitter something about how the flyers haven't made any contact with lecavaliers agent on buying him out .... I was curious and went and check

Lecavalier has 3 years 4.5 cap hit left

I'm Not saying id do it but weiss has 3 years and 4.9 cap hit left

Would anyone take a gamble and make the trade?and then buy out lecavalier if he's god awful?

Contracts similar so it's 2 teams trading a problem for another

I'd probably try and trade weiss with some of his salary paid , rather then dealing with his contract for 4 years , or the 2nd option would be to just bury him in Grand Rapids for the season


Lecavalier is worse than Weiss at this point.  Weiss can still rebound. Lecavalier is done.

I can see a Phaneuf for Weiss, Smith and a 1st trade happening at the draft.


Babcock will never let this happen.  His going there has basically killed any chance of getting Phaneuf.


I know he's not a defenseman, but if the Sharks are shopping Thornton I'd definitely inquire about what it would take to get him.  He'd really solidify us up front, where we still need a little work, even if it's not the number one priority.

#2614884 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by number9 on 16 June 2015 - 10:41 PM


False. The team in front of him can never get in done in the playoffs. It isn't his job to score goals. 


Their problem has always been center depth. Stacked at G. Stacked at D. Nash and company at wing (even though Nash choked).


To me Brassard and Stepan are both great 2nd line centers. But they're going to compare to the Datsyuks, Toews, Kopitars, and Stamkos's of this league.

#2614883 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by marcaractac on 16 June 2015 - 10:36 PM

"King Henrik" is about as intimidating as a pair of dress socks. Guy can't get it done in the playoffs. I'll count him out for next season right now. He is overblown.


False. The team in front of him can never get in done in the playoffs. It isn't his job to score goals. 

#2614610 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by aflac9262 on 15 June 2015 - 09:56 PM

Quite the dynasty these Blackhawks have established. They are the "Red Wings" of this era so-to-speak. Meanwhile, Ken Holland is kicking tires debating to himself if he will re-sign Dan Cleary. Oh how the times change. :P

#2614435 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by Rhah on 15 June 2015 - 08:53 AM

I don't know what you are referring to where I called someone else out, but I don't disagree with you entirely. Still, Q has done a nice job balancing his four lines and getting his best players on the ice. That may sound too simplistic, but sometimes coaches get too caught up in matching lines and overthink situations. I think Babcock was very guilty of that in Detroit at times.

Q has a ton of talent to work with, no question. So did Scotty Bowman in Detroit. You still have to execute and game plan. Three cups in six seasons isn't easy to pull off even with a stacked roster.


Oh, sorry, GoWings... I quoted part of your post just the coaching part that I had different opinion on. The other parts were just referring to others in the thread.


Chicago is abuzz, and rightfully so, today. But, their lack of humility on the radio and from fans is a bit sickening. They pretty much think its going to end tonight. Talking about how they haven't clinched the cup on home ice since like the 1940's. They think the script is going just as they planned, typical lackadaisical Hawks pitter-pattering early in series and then buckling down in the meaningful games.


Would just love for them to get knocked down a a peg or two (the fans and radio, not the players, they are calm and respectful as usual, damn Captain Serious and doing everything right :P). 

#2614529 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 15 June 2015 - 02:49 PM

This just sucks. I want this post-season in the rear view mirror ASAP. I have hated every single series this year, and nothing turned out the way I wanted it to. Good riddance, and f*** off whoever wins.

#2614428 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by krsmith17 on 15 June 2015 - 07:49 AM

They didn't "drop the ball" on anything... They refused to trade him, for good reason, and they're not all of a sudden trying to trade him. Mantha isn't going anywhere. He will get another season in Grand Rapids and likely push for a spot in Detroit in 2016-17. My bet is he scores at or close to a point per game next season for the Griffins. People are acting like he's a bust after one season of pro... :wacko:

#2614426 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by darkmanx on 15 June 2015 - 06:36 AM

I don't know , somehow I got a feeling cause it was Nill and he and holland are good friends, he somehow convinced holland to get more than he should of ... I Just don't like giving up good assets for guys who have brought nothing to help the team ... Anyways it's over now and I hope he thinks twice before trading mantha or someone else of value before he makes a deal

Man that list of guys you named that's what I'm talking about ... seeing that list ... Just brutal

As for kessel I'm not really worried about him , just hope and think we won't give up on mantha just yet , we got a ton of good kids upfront , we need to draft d's this year ... If we have 6picks I'd say 4-5 gotta be d's


Maybe in hindsight, but Cole would have been a difference maker for us in the playoffs. Also, let's not pretend Holland added players in just because there friends, that's just ridiculous.


You value prospects too highly, they really aren't worth anything unless you have a top 10 pick or until they prove themselves. You said Wings were going to regret Jarnkrok yet I just looked at his stats and we aren't missing anything.

#2614424 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by krsmith17 on 15 June 2015 - 05:38 AM

Put me in the group of people that would prefer to trade one of Nyquist or Tatar before either Larkin or Mantha.

#2614270 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by Helmethead on 13 June 2015 - 10:10 PM

I still believe Mantha gets this season to see what he can do with a full training camp and being healthy. I can't see Kenny giving up on him already.