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#2674128 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 28 April 2016 - 12:35 AM

I'm not saying you're wrong about Helm - but Abdlekader was arguably our best forward this postseason... He's a guy you need to have to win in April.

You wanna talk about contracts that keep people awake at night? Zetterberg and Ericsson might top the list.

His 1 point and -3 rating was the 2nd worst amongst forwards. He hit a dude a bunch of times while on ice but that's about all he did this post season. 

#2673652 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 25 April 2016 - 08:55 PM

Lol, Helm's not happy with his "situation"?  Apparently playing with Pavel for a good portion of the season displeases him.  Screw that guy. 


Tell you what buddy, make good on any of the 10,000 breakaways you get and we'll talk turkey. 

#2673375 I Hate Jeff Blashill because ...

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 April 2016 - 03:20 PM

Pretty much the only thing I didn't like with Blashill was his player usage. It's been beaten to death, but he relied way to heavily on the vets and underutilized the kids. Blashill should not be fired, Firschweiler on the other hand, that guy has to go. I'm okay with Granato leaving as well. Two new assistants with a new perspective, fresh ideas and hopefully better speciality teams will help this team immensely...

Blashill took over a very similar team (with the addition of Richards and Green), previously coached by Mike "hockey god" Babcock, and had a very similar result - playoff bubble team, bounced in the first round. Firschweiler took over a top ranked power-play, previously coached by Jim Hiller, and made it into one of the worst in the entire league. Special teams, in my opinion, was the teams biggest downfall. Both the power-play and penalty kill were way too conservative. The power-play had very little movement, way too much passing, not enough shooting and way too much one and done. The penalty kill was way too passive, we did a good job taking away shooting lanes but never took away passing lanes. A successful penalty kill needs much more pressure on the puck and not allowing so many cross ice passes opening up the easy one-timer.

I still believe this team has a bright future, and Blashill is still the best coach for us right now. As long as he can clear his head this offseason, and come to the realization that this team can't rely on Datsyuk (if he's back), Zetterberg and Kronwall anymore, I think we'll be fine. We need to hand the reins over to the kids, Larkin, Mantha, Athanasiou and company need to take on much bigger roles to start next season.

#2672988 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 22 April 2016 - 12:55 PM

Smith, again? Dude was our best d-man in the series (especially Game 3) and is about the only one that has any clue how to execute a clean breakout. He drives possession and pushes the play offensively. 
I don't even remember any egregious Smith turnovers in this series, which was always his biggest downfall. Kronwall and Ericsson are by far the biggest issues on the back end -- amplified by the fact Blashill inexplicably kept them together as a pairing even though they have stunk together for years. 

I've always liked Smith and kronwall together. They'd make a solid second pair I think. Just gotta acquire someone to play with duke on the first and suddenly the top 4 looks really good. The key os to get Ericsson off the team.
I wonder if AA will be sent down? A deep playoff run with the Griffins would be great for him.
Scratch that AA being sent down was just confirmed on Twitter.

#2672891 Mantha

Posted by marcaractac on 22 April 2016 - 04:51 AM

It's time to move Larkin and AA into center roles, and to make sure they learn all the tricks to winning faceoffs at this level. Down the middle it should be Larkin, AA, Hank, and Glenny. In that order. Hank is still a very important part of this team. He just needs to play less minutes during the season. Even during the rough patches.






#2672834 Mantha

Posted by laporte15 on 21 April 2016 - 10:48 PM

Glendening is not a top six player. He's a 4th line/ grind line type of player.

#2672809 I Hate Jeff Blashill because ...

Posted by Echolalia on 21 April 2016 - 10:17 PM

Gotta admit I wasn't a fan of his work this season. Just about every player on the team performed worse compared to last year's individual stats. Mrazek played on his head for half the season and Larkin played on his head for half the season, and I think those two factors are what got the Wings to the playoffs. I haven't seen anything particularly impressive from coaching all season long. I guess he has a long summer to do some homework on how to be an effective NHL coach and Holland to maybe grab some fresh blood, but I'm not particularly excited with the state of this team right now.

#2672119 ECQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:00 EST

Posted by Jericho613 on 21 April 2016 - 04:20 PM


Would have been nice if Mantha got the call up but somehow this organization isn't doing him any favors. Last chance to play with Pasha and no callup f*** that.


I'm honestly at the point where I do care who gets fired and held responsible just have a realistic plan and vision for the future if it ends tonight so be it.


I feel the same way. I just don't understand what the plan is for this team. I would have love to see what Mantha could do in a playoff game, even if its just to put him out there on the power play. But if our season does end tonight then I hope we find a way to clean this roster up for next season during the summer. Whatever it takes to get out of some of these bad contracts. This could possibly be the last playoff appearance we see for a while. Go Wings!!!!!!!! Give everything you got.

#2672089 ECQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:00 EST

Posted by frankgrimes on 21 April 2016 - 12:58 PM


I don't care so much about the forward lines,  5 on 5 we have been fine but the D has to be juggled around and the PP needs a total face lift.  I would literally put anyone on the PP at this point if they will shoot the damn puck.  


Would have been nice if Mantha got the call up but somehow this organization isn't doing him any favors. Last chance to play with Pasha and no callup f*** that.


I'm honestly at the point where I do care who gets fired and held responsible just have a realistic plan and vision for the future if it ends tonight so be it.

#2671707 ECQF Game 4 Post-GTD: Tampa Bay 3, at Red Wings 2

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 19 April 2016 - 09:29 PM

Its amazing everyone is calling for Blashills head. Same thing was said about Babs after his first year when the Wings bombed out 5 times harder than this year. Good thing nobody listened to the fans then.


I just want him to coach the way he did in GR. I watched the entire Calder Cup run, and some games the last few years. He always played the young guys in crunch time, he had creative systems, and his teams played tough. When we hit a rut halfway through the year, he turned into Baby Mike and ran down the vets trying desperately to just fall into the playoffs, and fall in we did.

#2668679 Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 15 April 2016 - 12:51 PM


I agree with you, despite my hilarious jokes about Andersson - he is surprisingly not our savior, or a Conn Smythe candidate at this point... Jurco is probably better suited for the 4th line especially because Andersson hasn't even been playing Center. That question comes down to Blashill's opinion of who is better defensively.


In terms of a rotating in Smith to jump start our team... We. Didn't. Play. A. Bad. Game.


We lost by a goal, to the defending Eastern Conference Champions in their building... We had 36 shots on goal, and a number quality scoring chances that could have easily gone in: I can think of Sheahan, Nyquist, Datsyuk, and Green missing the net on golden opportunities. If we play like that again tonight, we probably win - and If we did win on Wednesday, which was a hell of a lot better than the game 1 (we won) last year - this thread doesn't get to 9 pages. 

WE. LOST. Close doesn't count. We lost to wounded team missing their 2 best players.

#2668640 Mantha

Posted by krsmith17 on 15 April 2016 - 11:41 AM

I was a huge fan of Blashill with the Griffins and when he got hired as the new head coach of the Red Wings I was very excited to see what he could do. The main reason being, I loved the way he managed his roster down in Grand Rapids and put the kids in great positions to succeed. Things started out great with Larkin making the roster, and we all thought, this is the changing of the guard. We're finally going to start transitioning from the vets to the youth. For whatever reason, somewhere along the way, that changed. We started going back to the same old well, and leaning on the vets yet again. I'm not sure what caused him to revert back to the ways of old, if there was pressure from management to keep the streak alive or what. Regardless of when it happened or why it happened, there's no question that there have been major misusage of players for parts of this season, and especially down this last stretch.

I'm of the mindset set now that we've made the playoffs, we've kept the streak alive, we're not expected to go deep, now is the time to start playing for the future. We need to get these kids in the lineup to get them some valuable playoff experience, as well as potentially give us a better shot at winning. I'm okay with Mantha playing big minutes down in Grand Rapids, if that's what management believe is the best for his development. What I'm not okay with is Andersson in the lineup in any capacity over Jurco. And don't try to spin this as me saying that Jurco is the answer to our offensive woes (like some did with the Mantha debate), because (again) I'm not. What I am saying is that Jurco is just as good defensively, can also kill penalties and is about 100 times better offensively. Andersson is not an NHL calibre player and should not be anywhere close to this roster.

The defense has been abysmal at best, and Blash decided to make a change, he switched Ericsson and Quincey. Yup, that should really jump start this team... Instead of inserting Smith in, you switch two defensive defensemen, expecting some huge change? What a joke...

#2668610 Mantha

Posted by marcaractac on 15 April 2016 - 10:33 AM

Blash won't make the changes that need to happen until it's too late.

#2667416 ECQF Game 1 GTD: Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:00 ET

Posted by matt198913 on 13 April 2016 - 06:53 AM

I have zero faith in the management of the team. Players will give the effort but fall short. 4-1 Tampa

#2667281 Playoff Lines + Mantha Back to GR

Posted by matt198913 on 12 April 2016 - 12:37 PM

Dumb dumb dumb!!! Why are they so stupid not to realize they better get the next generation ready. Only organization in the league that acts like this.