Last ngihts game is a textbook example of how it can be a pretty damn big factor.
I'm notorious for thinking fighting is more than just a side show for goons and anyone who thinks that I will call an anti fighter til the day I die because they dont realize the impact it can have on a game and team.
I don't think I have ever said that. You have me confused with someone else.
I think players can get sparked up by a fight. On the other hand, so can the other team. That is why I don't put AS MUCH stock into the benefits of fighting as you do. There is a big gray area on which team gets more of the jump from it, and I don't think there is anything wrong with having one opinion or the other. My issue is creating strawmen simply to prop up one of the opinions.
Personally, if there was a player who I wanted to have his clock cleaned last night, it was Ballard. The guy was grabbing people, acting tough towards our smallest players, and in general acting like a ******.
Abdelkader on the Lapierre fight: "He asked me to go and I said yes. It was good to give our team a spark, especially after being off."
The team was playing like s***, and he realized it and went out there to spark them. Needless to say it worked and the difference was noticeable,anyone who wants to say fighting has no effect whatsoever on a game is clueless.
I think Abdelkader has really cemented himself as a solid middleweight his last 3 fights or so and has looked feistier this year than he did last year. When hes on the wings with Bert backing him up hes a real bruiser.
Look forward to a lot more of this from him and Bert, that third line has been sick
Was there a noticable difference before and after? Yup
Are you the type of person who would deny this effect of a hockey fight to all ends? Yup
Does it feel great to have proof that the wings players also agree it can have a spark, contrary to some people's ridiculous thoughts on here? Definitely
Like I said, get off your podium already, and just appreciate the damn fight. Also, I have never said that fights don't spark a team. I have simply said it isn't as big of a factor as you would like to make it appear. You are notorious for pegging anyone who doesn't see fighting the way you do as an "anti fighter". Just pump the brakes.
Posted by P. Marlowe
on 13 October 2011 - 09:19 PM
I guarantee you we've won many, many games where it was a matter of the refs making a bad call against the other teams that gave us that little extra *something*, and I can also guarantee that you didn't give a damn, you were just happy that we won, like every other fan.
Don't. You don't know me. I know how I feel and although all wins feel good winning a hardfought fair game feels better.
I'm thinking when the first loss comes, it's officially the end of the season. The bandwagon fleas begin to fall off.
Haha, true story. I still remember when a friend of mine who is a Tampa Bay Lightning fan had season tickets during all those crappy years. Everyone who showed up to the games were real Tampa Bay fans. Then, the team got good and won the Cup. He said that the cup winning year was fun, but all the bandwagon fans jumped on. When they regressed, it went back to the way it was. Now with the team getting good again, the bandwagoners have returned.
Personally, I would rather have a good team and deal with the bandwagoners than have a crappy team and no bandwagon fans. Ask the Lions fans how they have felt the last 8 years.
Character assassination won't do you any good, sweetcheeks.
You don't have any character left to assassinate. So it was a fruitless effort.
Am i the only person who doesn't give a crap who our sponsor is? We are still the Red Wings. Illitch is still the owner. It's not like we are the Detroit Amways or play at Joe Louis Amway Arena. Amway is footing a huge bill. Without that massive corporate sponsorship, we'll start being less competitive. I know I don't want that, do you? Would you be ok not being able to spend to the max and have the best possible team possible? It's a sponsor. It doesn't change the team and no one outside of Red Wing fanboys give a hoot who our sponsors are. I can't name more than 2 or 3 sponsors of any teams around the league, i assume most can't either.
The simple answer is, if I'm a player around the net in a scrum after the whistle, I'm a lot less likely to take a little cheapshot at the goalie or give a little crosscheck to a star player if I know I will get punched in the face for it. If I only have to answer to Franzen, then it's jab away.
I don't think it prevents guys from hitting players or injuries during the game, but as for crap after whistles and little cheapshots, hell yes it does.
Just because you say it's true doesn't make it so. Even if it were true, those players would have to be on the ice to prevent anything, and none of those players would play on the same line as Datsyuk or Zetterberg or anyone decent.
Drew has two 10 goal seasons with Detroit in years where we faced a ton of injuries and now he's a better player then Nystrom? Haha, ok. Nystrom would be a good fit, can score just as well as Miller, hits harder and is faster. I don't think Kenny even looks twice at him because we already have too many forwards and he's a bit pricey for a 3rd/4th line guy.
Nystrom cannot score just as well as Miller. Miller has more points and goals in 100 less games played and has 2 straight 10 goal seasons with the Wings while Nystrom hasn't accomplished that feat. Nystrom has never had a positive +/- as a pro as well. So yes smartass, Miller is the better player.
Last Detroit-Ottawa matchup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-LS5e3cw50
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Special thanks to Doc Holiday for providing the graphics for "Game Day", "Team Records", "Projected Lines/Starters" and "Injury Report". I'm a new photoshop user and took care of the rest. Here's to a great season!
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Does not have option for bonus picks or toss out of worst three weeks. But it can do the totaling and then you can use that in Conjunction with bonus and worst weeks on the LGW site. They have pay and free sites. The free just calculates for us.
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Posted by LeftWinger
on 03 October 2011 - 03:06 PM
Well he beat Johnson out for the "Play until Mursak gets back" "Play until someone is traded" contract. Now he's got a new one; he gets to spend the first half of the season competing with Emmerton and Miller for two roster spots.
terrible lineup for tonight, hopefully Leafs don't dress 3/4 of there roster tonight like last night. Helm has been invisible every game I watched with him, I don't think he will ever play in the top 6.
I don't see Helm as a top 6 guy, to be honest. I see him as a kickass third line guy who adds an amazing element that will give us great depth and a pk specialist.
And a cute guy for the younger girls to giggle over.