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#2116550 The Dreger Report

Posted by Konnan511 on 14 February 2011 - 04:47 PM

I think the problem is fans have short memories.

When we had everyone healthy on this team at the beginning of this season,..including modano,..this team was unbeatable.

When we get everyone back,..we'll still be unbeatable.

Now i'm the one who typed all that up and all,..but even I know the rebuttal to this has merit, When we won the cup in 08 we brought in Stuart who was exactly what we needed then.

It stands to reason something similar wouldn't suck either.

We also had the second easiest schedule with weeks off between games.

We need a physical, quick DMan who has a willingness to clear the front of the net.

#2115489 2/11 GDT: Red Wings 6 at Bruins 1

Posted by Broken 16 on 12 February 2011 - 05:39 PM

I like when Bert does things. It makes me think he isn't worthless.

Funny. I feel the exact same way about Flip.

#2115503 Jason Williams Signs with Stars

Posted by Miss Wing Queen on 12 February 2011 - 06:41 PM

Yeah, that was my first thought. I don't recall a member of the Wings ever being as invisible as he was last season.

Except when he fired that shot in Game 3 against the Sharks that missed the net and went right to Thorton, who then scored in OT to give the Sharks a series lead 3-0. <_<

#2113982 Trade Deadline and You are GM.

Posted by Buppy on 09 February 2011 - 10:35 PM

Meszaros may not have been as physical as Stuart 3-4 years ago. Does that really make a difference to NOW? Stuart has been getting less physical over the past few years, and his defense has declined considerably since 2008.

Stuart had over 200 hits last year. His highest total since the lockout (possibly a career high, NHL.com doesn't have pre-lockout hits). He was pretty close to that pace again this year. He still is more physical than Mesz, or certainly on a similar level.

He has been rock solid for most of the past two seasons defensively. Easily 2nd best on the team. For many games both last year and this, he was arguably even better than Nick. Like most people, you probably just fixate on the mistakes. Watch any player close enough, looking for flaws, and you will find them.

#2113226 Trade Deadline and You are GM.

Posted by Buppy on 08 February 2011 - 10:12 PM

You realize Meszaros is better defensively and more physical than Stuart, while being six years younger? Furthermore, Stuart is signed through next season, while Meszaros has two seasons more on top of that.


I didn't say it had to be a Tatar or Pulkkinen; but Philly won't just give up Mesz for Stuart.

Trading for a quality mid-20s shutdown defenseman isn't free.

I wouldn't say Mesz is either better defenseively or more physical. In a similar amout of games since the lockout, Stuart has around 200 more hits. Both are solid 2nd pair guys who can fill in on a top pair when required. Mesz is no more a shutdown defender than Stuart. He is younger, but I'm not building the defense around either so I don't care.

Regardless, even if I did think Mesz was better, he is certainly no where near enough of an improvement to include a 2nd rounder and a prospect. You even point out that our defense isn't physical enough and then propose trading our most physical defender for someone who hits less, and you throw in a pick that could easily garner a big, physical defender 6 years younger than Meszaros if we decided to go that way. Or, if we decided to trade the pick and maybe a low pick or prospect, we could get another defenseman of similar quality. (As proven by the trades involving the very players we're talking about.) Your proposal was a gross overpayment.

... but Stuart needs to shape up because he has not looked good. ...

I don't think you know what 'good' looks like. Stuart isn't an all-star, but neither is Meszaros. You trade Stu AND a 2nd AND a prospect with even a hint of NHL potential you better get an all-star in return or you're getting robbed.

#2073549 Ritola has inner ear disease

Posted by Aussie_Wing on 05 December 2010 - 12:19 AM

He's right. Nobody cares much to see you whine.

What the?

We've got a Ritola thread from only a day ago, he scores tonight so I post about it, and I'm whining?

#2073265 Ritola has inner ear disease

Posted by titanium2 on 04 December 2010 - 09:39 PM

I'm at least in that room.

#2113022 Ritola has inner ear disease

Posted by Vladifan on 08 February 2011 - 12:43 PM

He's right. Nobody cares much to see you whine.

Excuse me, but what the hell is up with you? Two posts here that have nothing to do with Ritola but you choose instead to attack another poster? I wouldn't even bother bringing this up, but this is not the first time you've done this. NObody cares what you personally think of Aussie. But if you care that much about why we should care, why don't you just start a thread about it? And then you might as well add that empty room that somebody threw on here. A clue? This is NOT about you or other posters here making personal attacks. This is about a good hockey player who is in real pain in every sense of the word. Get.a.life. :nonono:

#2111462 And he does it again!

Posted by edicius on 06 February 2011 - 04:49 PM

Their captain should really speak out against plays like this.

#2111406 And he does it again!

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 06 February 2011 - 03:14 PM

f*** the suspension. Next time Pittsburgh plays New York, Boogaard needs to end Cookes career. He has no respect for his fellow players and is only interested in hurting people. Guys like that in the old days didnt have long careers. f*** Matt Cooke. (And I dont even like Ovechkin, I just hate cheapshot pricks like Cooke.)

#2110556 Mallkin out with torn ACL/MCL

Posted by esteef on 05 February 2011 - 03:39 PM

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#2109376 2/2 GDT: Franzen 5 + Red Wings 2 (7) at Senators (5)

Posted by titanium2 on 03 February 2011 - 02:18 AM

Apparently Rafalski got his 500th career point...

And yet the first thing I thought of was, "Does he have more career points or giveaways?"

#2109496 Shades of Fedorov?

Posted by Konnan511 on 03 February 2011 - 01:02 PM

Franzen doesn't have the pure level of talent that Fedorov has. However, his ego and general level of conceit also doesn't hold a candle to what 91 had. Fedorov was extremely full of himself and often behaved childishly when it came to anything that threatened his massive ego.

Your ignorance and bias hate makes me laugh.

#2109498 2/2 GDT: Franzen 5 + Red Wings 2 (7) at Senators (5)

Posted by gcom007 on 03 February 2011 - 01:06 PM

When 4 of the 5 goals were scored due to defensive breakdowns and blown coverages, its hard to fault Howard. Speaking from experience, when my team plays well in front of me and keeps the shots to the outside, I can pitch a shutout or keep them to 1 or 2 goals scored. When my team plays poorly, it can be 6 goals allowed easy. This is why Ken Holland invests so much into his defensive core. The goaltender is the last line of defense. The defense is there to make sure it doesn't come to that.

The armchair fans in this forum and other hockey boards really have got to get out there and play the game.

Aside from that, the Wings didn't play their best game. Big deal. In the course of a season, teams are going to go through highs and lows. The Wings are solid at the top of the division and with an injured group of players that are coming back now. Be patient. Give it time. Still 32 games to go until playoffs.

I spent more time on skates growing up then in shoes. Plenty have. But this is the NHL. If you're a goalie in the NHL, let alone a starting goalie on one of the top teams, it is reasonable to expect a goalie to be better than Howard has been this year. I don't care what team you're playing for, what injuries said team may have and what defensive issues may exist, when you have to go into a game expecting that 4 goals will be scored against you, there's a real problem.

That said, the defense has been terrible, sure, but the reality of the matter is that we are not the only team that has defensive issues. Plenty of other teams struggle far more than we do with the stupid mistakes and they don't have the talent to at times compensate for it. Yet somehow, even the terrible teams seem to have goalies outplaying Howard more often than not lately. I'm not one of the one's calling for his head, and I've got faith that he'll recover in due time, but let's be honest here...defensive breakdowns or not, Howard's had a rough year, and if he can't get it going, unless Babcock goes with Osgood, we're toast come playoff time.

It is stupid to blame every goal on him, and he isn't getting much help, but any way you shake it, he hasn't played well and he's absolutely got to play a lot better. You need your goalie to compensate for some of the inevitable defensive breakdowns. Again, I really like the guy and I'm not throwing in the towel by any means, but this year, he's simply not playing well at all.

#2105021 Enforcer Poll

Posted by HankthaTank on 25 January 2011 - 06:14 PM

Give me Danny Cleary and all the intangibles he brings over a knuckle dragger any day.