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#2081258 Chicago fans last night

Posted by edicius on 19 December 2010 - 02:21 PM

We're all hockey fans. We need to come together, not tear ourselves apart.

So, on that note, can't we all just get together and agree that the Penguins and their fans are an annoying bunch of douchebags?

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#2081208 Chicago fans last night

Posted by Buppy on 19 December 2010 - 12:02 PM

I have to amend my statement about coming here and being able to discuss hockey with hockey fans in the past.

After looking at this thread I notice that except for haroldsnepts and hockeytown0001 you are all either newbees or old trolls. Makes me kind of sad, yeah, there was some ribbing both ways but it is fun to discuss hockey between different fan bases. ...

If you want to discuss hockey, try one of the threads discussing hockey. If you want to discuss other teams and their fans, remember that this a Wings board, with a Wings bias, and the prevailing opinion about other teams is going to fall somewhere in the range of 'indifference' to 'they suck'. Deal.

I never said he shouldn't have been booed. I said Hawks fans had every right to boo.

Never stated whether I would boo or not.

Idc if mickey generalized. what im trying to say is that it wasn't classless.
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The right, sure. It's a free country. Those fans have the right to be classless douchebags. And we have the right to call them as such.

Justification is debateable, and it seems we can't agree on that issue. So I guess we should just leave it at that.

I think you are missing the pointof what I am trying to say. Im not trying to say that Detroit dont have loyal fans, because they do. All I am saying is when people try to bash the Blackhawks fanbase and call most of them bandwagoners, then turn around and praise the Red wings fanbase, I just dont think a lot of them have the right to do that. The Red Wings have been in contention for two decades, so most of the fans around here (I didnt say all, I said most), have never had to experience the losing side of their team. Do you honestly think that if the Wings were to suck for the next 10 years all these "loyal" fans would stick around? I highly doubt it. Some of you would, I will even go a far as to say that a lot of them would, but you would see a good deal of them lose interest.

My whole point is if you have never been on the losing side you dont have the right to call out a fanbase that has had to deal with what us Blackhawk fans have had to deal with for a LONG time. That is not a knock on Detroits fanbase, im simply saying that a lot of Wing fans just dont get how bad it has been for Chicago, because they have never had to deal with it. You should be thankful you have had such a great organization, that pretty much any team would kill to have.

Forgive me if I rant a bit here.

I don't have a problem with 'bandwagon' fans the sense of fans who only take interest when the team is winning. Every organization in sports has those. I don't think you have to be a die-hard attending every game no matter how bad the team is to be a good fan. People have limited time and income, I don't expect people to spend what they have on a poor product.

For me, it's the attitude of some bandwagoners that gets to me. The attitude that brings them out in droves to Wings boards demanding respect. We didn't even play you in the playoffs. We were nothing more than an also-ran last season. Why are you here looking for validation? Why does everyone come to us to wave their victory banners, mock us for our failures? Does it really mean so much around the league for teams to be considered better than us? I guess we should take it as a compliment, but I just find it annoying. Let me ask you this; in 2008, how many Wings fans went out policing the Hawks boards for any percieved slights to our status?

Also, the sense of entitlement for some of these fans even though they haven't proven a willingness to pay their dues. I don't mean supporting a losing team. In many ways it's much easier to support a team with no expectations. You can't be disappointed. I mean supporting a good team that loses when you expect them to win.

You talk about how much success the Wings have had in recent memory, but that is a double-edged sword. With that success comes the expectation of more success. Since 1995, our seasons have had only two possible conclusions: Cup or Failure. We might have the most successful team over that span, but at the same time we have also endured the most failure. We are invested in our team to an extent I don't think you really understand. Probably half the leauge would be ecstatic just to make the playoffs this year. For us the prospect of missing the playoffs borders on tragic. A first round loss here is an embarassment. Last year in Phoenix it was an epic achievement, even though they had home ice and could easily have been considered the favorite. When Pittsburgh and Chicago lost to us, fans took it as a moral victory that they made it so far. When we lost to the Ducks and Pens in the same circumstances, they were profoundly disappointing failures. Even when we won the Cup most of the talk around the league centered around the rise of the Penguins.

You all come here playing the victim because we don't idolize every Cup winner, demanding respect that you haven't earned. Maybe it's just the 'instant success' factor; you haven't had a chance yet to take your lumps, but you are willing to. Pens fans probably would have said the same thing, but their bandwagon seemed to empty pretty quickly.

Come back when the Hawks are eliminated. Make excuses, whine about officiating and injuries and bad luck and all the other things you do when you're frustrated because your team let you down. Listen to fans around the league berate you for those excuses, tell you your reign is over. Fans around the league hate the Wings and us fans. Every team has the Wings games circled on their schedule almost like a rival or defending champ. League marketing is even sick of us, and always looking for the next big thing to replace us as headliners. That's what we Wings fans have been doing for over a decade.

You don't deserve the thrill of victory if defeat isn't agony. You haven't shown that yet. Even now you talk about the Hawks struggles like it doesn't bother you, like you expect nothing, like you could walk away from a second round loss with your head held high. Success is wonderful, and much appreciated, but also a reminder of the greater success we've failed to achieve. Your success still leaves you a lot closer to Nashville than it does to us, and you haven't yet demonstrated any emotional investment in your team. Yet you have the gall to step into enemey territory demanding equality in our justifiably biased discussions. Un-*******-believable.


#2081137 Chicago fans last night

Posted by ACallToArms on 19 December 2010 - 02:13 AM

How can anyone expect me or anyone else to be all polite and talk hockey when some of your posters post things like this? ^^

I would love to see how many of your "fans" would stick around if Detroit started losing and lost for years and years and years. Would all thse "loyal" fans still pack the arenas? My guess would be NO. Just because we didnt sell out every night, or have massive crowds during the "down" years doesnt mean that because we NOW do that they are all just bandwagon fans. IMO Detroit fans have no leg to stand on because most of them havent been fans long enough to comment on being a "true" fan. You havemade the playoffs, what, 20 straight seasons? Of course your fanbase has HUGE support, becaus they havent had to deal with all these losing seasons. Detroit has put a good product on the ice for TWO DECADES. Chicago finally has gotten their heads out of their asses ad put a good product on the Ice, so guess what, the fans are now showing up. This is not an excuse, its reality. People arent going to fork over their hard earned money to watch trash every night.

Just wait, Detroit WILL have down years, and we will see just howf****** loyal your fanbase is then.


The reason why the Red Wings have put a quality team on the ice for 20 straight seasons is because the team doesn't have a cheapskate penny-pinching owner who couldn't give a s*** about the team. The Iliches bought the Wings when they were the "Dead Wings," and turned it into a winning organization. Wirtz wouldn't even let you watch your team on TV. Honestly, I feel sorry for you and I'm not surprised a lot of fans stopped watching because of it.

As for having a quality product on the ice now, that's debatable. You guys won a cup, that's great. Happy for you. You also didn't have to go through Detroit to get it. See you in the playoffs, if your team makes it there.


#2081796 How certain are you that the Wings will get Ozzy his 400th?

Posted by puckloo39 on 19 December 2010 - 09:18 PM

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Get em next time, Ozzy. If you keep playing like you did tonight it won't take long at all for 400 to happen.



:thumbup: Ozzie wasn't the reason for the loss tonight. Not at all.

I can't believe anyone is coming into this thread to brag about being 'right' about Ozzie not getting to 400 in this game.

School's out for Christmas vacation?


#2081785 How certain are you that the Wings will get Ozzy his 400th?

Posted by Doc Holliday on 19 December 2010 - 08:41 PM

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Get em next time, Ozzy. If you keep playing like you did tonight it won't take long at all for 400 to happen.


#2081700 How certain are you that the Wings will get Ozzy his 400th?

Posted by titanium2 on 19 December 2010 - 07:47 PM

Hate to bring this back up but i was one of the two who voted Stars win.


Congratulations.


#2081598 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 December 2010 - 07:26 PM

Overall I think Rafalski is a good defensman, but he's a perfect example of why you can't just use stats when it comes to players.

So many times now he'll have game changing defensive mistakes, but also end up with a couple assists too so on paper it looks like he had a good game.


#2081661 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 19 December 2010 - 07:40 PM

Rafalski is the reason for the tie, and for the loss. Nice, and Ozzie played pretty well tonight too.


#2081679 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by eva unit zero on 19 December 2010 - 07:43 PM

Rafalski got first star, right? He was responsible for the game tying goal and the game winning goal. Total clutch play.


#2081670 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 December 2010 - 07:41 PM

Trade Rafalski for a nice winter coat.

Guy isf****** worthless defensively.


#2081664 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Doc Holliday on 19 December 2010 - 07:40 PM

Osgood actually plays well and the team just gives up the game.

What af****** crock. Rafalski, you should bef****** ashamed of yourself for that performance tonight.


#2081699 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Zonly1 on 19 December 2010 - 07:47 PM

I think it's about time Rafalski wears his USA jersey under his Wings jersey. As of now, i'd rather have Kindl in there.


#2081737 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Dynheart on 19 December 2010 - 08:01 PM

And i don't get where all the love for osgood in this games comes from, he made about 2 solid saves the rest were must-saves for any nhl goalie, he faced what 25shots in regulation and still let in 3 goals, not very good stats.


Honestly, your hate towards Osgood is getting annoying (not to mention your love for Howard). Howard lets in 4 goals that he should have saved and you say "the team let him down". Osgood get's scored on with 2 tips and a point blank shot and you say "not very good stats"...Seriously, it's about the quality of the shots. Those were 3 goals he had no chance at. NONE!

But whatever. Why you contiune to post here when 95% of the people here can't stand your posts is beyond me.

Osgood played an exceptional game. And for a goaltender who is not very big (guess that's his fault too, eh?) I think he does well being that's he's like 5ft 10.


#2081730 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 December 2010 - 07:58 PM

And i don't get where all the love for osgood in this games comes from, he made about 2 solid saves the rest were must-saves for any nhl goalie, he faced what 25shots in regulation and still let in 3 goals, not very good stats.

It's amazing that you apparently watched the game and could say something this stupid.

You are the Steve Ott of LGW.com, minus the good parts. I can't tell if you're a really skilled and subtle troll, or if you're actually being genuine and you're just a miserable black hole of negativity. For your sake, I hope you're just trolling with the crap you post.


Either way, I give up. Ignore it is.


#2081721 12/19 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Doc Holliday on 19 December 2010 - 07:54 PM

And i don't get where all the love for osgood in this games comes from, he made about 2 solid saves the rest were must-saves for any nhl goalie, he faced what 25shots in regulation and still let in 3 goals, not very good stats.


Oh look, mommy. It's a stats junkie.

Do you even bother to watch the games or do you really have that hard of a time understanding hockey?