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#2040992 Ritola will be traded or waived

Posted by Z and D for the C on 05 October 2010 - 10:08 PM

People, face it... Ritola is not Crosby 2.0, but reading some of this thread you'd think he was.

Right, because if you would choose Ritola over Miller that means you MUST think he is the next Crosby. There is no way around it. You have revealed us all for what we are.

#2040911 Ritola will be traded or waived

Posted by Aussie_Wing on 05 October 2010 - 07:43 PM

Miller gives us MUCH better PKing than ritola. With Huds back we have acquired the lost PP depth and adding Mo will help the PP as well, so we needed to make sure our PK was up to par, with malts and draps in the end of careers we chose a better PKer over potential and Miller is more sound in his defensive aspects than ritola. Its not a big loss.

Yeah man, with Helm, Abdelkader, Eaves, Filppula, Cleary, Draper, we're so short on PK options!!

#2040842 Ericsson to be paired by Lidstrom

Posted by Carman on 05 October 2010 - 04:46 PM

So Kronwall is relegated to the 3rd pairing just because Ericsson isn't good enough to play with anyone but Lidstrom?

That says all you need to know.

3rd pairing doesn't exactly mean 3rd pairing TOI.

Wings aren't going to have Lidstrom and Ericsson play 30 minutes a night, and Babcocks not taking Kronwall off the PP or anything.

Over exaggerate more.

#2038604 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by Buppy on 30 September 2010 - 05:06 PM

It boggles my mind to see Red Wings fans who still think enforcers are needed. For pretty much the past 20 years, the Wings have been at or near the bottom of the league in fighting majors (dead last every year since the lockout) and still been the most successful team in the league.

Even allowing that fighting is a valuable ability for a team to have, it is painfully obvious that the lack of it can be compensated for in other areas. Instead, the pro-enforcer crowd just overstates the value of whatever 'enforcer' we've had in the past, even though they probably spent the whole year complaining about how soft we were.

People talk about the 96-98 teams like they were some great monument to team toughness, but the reality is they still rarely fought and were considered 'soft' compared to most of the league. McCarty was never so tough that he scared anyone. People who spent all of 08 whining about how soft we were now talk about Drake like he was one of the great all-time fighters.

This year will likely be no different than any other. We'll have a handful of fights. People will cry about how soft we are, blame every minor injury on our lack of fighters. If we aren't successful it will be because we weren't tough enough. But if we happen to win a Cup, it will be because of great enforcing from Bert and Abby or whoever happens to have a couple fights during the year.

The simple fact is that any deficiency can be overcome by enough strength in other areas. A strong defense can make up for a weaker offense or sub-par goaltending. A strong offense can offset a less than stellar defense. Great depth can overcome injuries or below average play from your stars. Dominant stars can compensate for a lack of depth. There isn't any one thing that is an absolute must have.

It's the general level of team talent, coaching and system, great effort, and a bit of luck that wins Cups. We have the talent, coaching, and system, despite any specific weaknesses we might have. All we really need now is the effort and luck.

#2038595 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by Broken 16 on 30 September 2010 - 04:04 PM

Grossly overstated by every team in the league. :ph34r:


I'm not anti-fighting, but this comment cracks me up almost as much as the entertainment value comment. If Holland wanted to put together a team like every other team... that's just what they would be, like every other team. Not many teams out there like the Wings and it suits me just fine. Wings don't copy the blueprint, they design it.

#2037920 Babs gives Miller a vote of confidence

Posted by hooon on 29 September 2010 - 01:29 PM

Eh, I can't say I like it.

Miller is as good as he will ever be, which, really isn't THAT good. We already have a ton of players who do exactly what he deos; Eaves, Helm, Abby, Draper.

I'll be honest, I have never seen much of Ritola, but my understanding is that his upside and potential is way higher than Miller's ever will be.

I also thought that he was have a strong, hard working preseason. Oh well.

#2038161 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by Carman on 29 September 2010 - 06:46 PM

Sorry Carman but you are just proving that you are stupid...

Nice to resort to petty insults. I won't be able to sleep.

Holland is a great GM, I trust that he knows what's best.

I don't think the Red Wings are going to suck because they don't have a player that plays 3 minutes a night and punches people.

#2038065 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by Konnan511 on 29 September 2010 - 05:04 PM

Welcome to another year of cheapshots on Franzen, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg. The Brooks Orpik hit is only the beginning of what we're gonna see.

We had an enforcer in our line-up that game.

#2038055 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by Echolalia on 29 September 2010 - 04:57 PM

Welcome to another year of cheapshots on Franzen, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg. The Brooks Orpik hit is only the beginning of what we're gonna see.

Downey really did a good job of preventing Brook Orpik from taking liberties that night, didn't he?

#2038051 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by Doc Holliday on 29 September 2010 - 04:50 PM

Maybe kenny doesn't see what we do, that some teams take liberties on the wings when not carrying a respectable enforcer, brad may of last season didnt really count and now we don't have anyone, as BBTBB said, expect more of the orpik-kneeing-franzen stuff...teams can do whatever they want because they know no one will beat them up.

Last time I checked the issues the Wings had last year were with the amount of injuries they had (non-cheapshot related) which hurt their performance on the ice, not the amount of liberties teams were taking with the Wings.

Talk about an overstated issue.

#2038032 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by Carman on 29 September 2010 - 04:37 PM

Good we don't need a useless plug on the 4th line.

There is no room for a one dimensional enforcer in today's game, especially on the Red Wings.

Our powerplay is our enforcer.

#2036539 9/24 Pre-season GDT: Chicago Blackhawks at Red Wings

Posted by titanium2 on 24 September 2010 - 10:35 PM

So what part of the season are we at right now?

#2036080 Bad Rep Immunity Thread

Posted by hillbillywingsfan on 24 September 2010 - 01:28 AM

Well now that this is in Water Cooler..

George W. Bush was the best President in US History!

no but he's better than the one we have now. :blush:

#2035206 Bad Rep Immunity Thread

Posted by Offsides on 22 September 2010 - 09:24 AM

That last one is so true.

I'd like Ozzie to be starter this year. This is actually something I would like :ph34r:

#2035165 Bad Rep Immunity Thread

Posted by Aussie_Wing on 22 September 2010 - 04:32 AM

Downey has no place trying out for a roster spot let alone possibly ending up with one!