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#2614435 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by Rhah on 15 June 2015 - 08:53 AM

I don't know what you are referring to where I called someone else out, but I don't disagree with you entirely. Still, Q has done a nice job balancing his four lines and getting his best players on the ice. That may sound too simplistic, but sometimes coaches get too caught up in matching lines and overthink situations. I think Babcock was very guilty of that in Detroit at times.

Q has a ton of talent to work with, no question. So did Scotty Bowman in Detroit. You still have to execute and game plan. Three cups in six seasons isn't easy to pull off even with a stacked roster.


Oh, sorry, GoWings... I quoted part of your post just the coaching part that I had different opinion on. The other parts were just referring to others in the thread.


Chicago is abuzz, and rightfully so, today. But, their lack of humility on the radio and from fans is a bit sickening. They pretty much think its going to end tonight. Talking about how they haven't clinched the cup on home ice since like the 1940's. They think the script is going just as they planned, typical lackadaisical Hawks pitter-pattering early in series and then buckling down in the meaningful games.


Would just love for them to get knocked down a a peg or two (the fans and radio, not the players, they are calm and respectful as usual, damn Captain Serious and doing everything right :P). 

#2614529 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 15 June 2015 - 02:49 PM

This just sucks. I want this post-season in the rear view mirror ASAP. I have hated every single series this year, and nothing turned out the way I wanted it to. Good riddance, and f*** off whoever wins.

#2614428 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by krsmith17 on 15 June 2015 - 07:49 AM

They didn't "drop the ball" on anything... They refused to trade him, for good reason, and they're not all of a sudden trying to trade him. Mantha isn't going anywhere. He will get another season in Grand Rapids and likely push for a spot in Detroit in 2016-17. My bet is he scores at or close to a point per game next season for the Griffins. People are acting like he's a bust after one season of pro... :wacko:

#2614426 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 15 June 2015 - 06:36 AM

I don't know , somehow I got a feeling cause it was Nill and he and holland are good friends, he somehow convinced holland to get more than he should of ... I Just don't like giving up good assets for guys who have brought nothing to help the team ... Anyways it's over now and I hope he thinks twice before trading mantha or someone else of value before he makes a deal

Man that list of guys you named that's what I'm talking about ... seeing that list ... Just brutal

As for kessel I'm not really worried about him , just hope and think we won't give up on mantha just yet , we got a ton of good kids upfront , we need to draft d's this year ... If we have 6picks I'd say 4-5 gotta be d's


Maybe in hindsight, but Cole would have been a difference maker for us in the playoffs. Also, let's not pretend Holland added players in just because there friends, that's just ridiculous.


You value prospects too highly, they really aren't worth anything unless you have a top 10 pick or until they prove themselves. You said Wings were going to regret Jarnkrok yet I just looked at his stats and we aren't missing anything.

#2614424 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by krsmith17 on 15 June 2015 - 05:38 AM

Put me in the group of people that would prefer to trade one of Nyquist or Tatar before either Larkin or Mantha.

#2614270 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by Helmethead on 13 June 2015 - 10:10 PM

I still believe Mantha gets this season to see what he can do with a full training camp and being healthy. I can't see Kenny giving up on him already.

#2614263 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by Helmethead on 13 June 2015 - 10:01 PM

If Kenny is giving up Mantha and a 1st can't he do better than Phaneuf? I hope so.

#2614266 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by Helmethead on 13 June 2015 - 10:08 PM

Agreed. I hate the Hawks. But I give them full credit. You don't win 3 Cups in 6 years by being just lucky.

#2613057 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by Buppy on 03 June 2015 - 09:37 PM



You know his number wasn't actually "retired" though right? In fact, it had been worn since his retirement. And it also never hung from any rafters right? You make it sound like Illitch personally ripped it from the rafters when he bought the team. That just isn't the case. 

It most definitely was retired. It was worn for a few years by his cousin, to honor him (he had died a few years prior), with the blessing of the family. Never hung from the rafters but neither did any other numbers until Ilitch bought the team. (I think Howe's was the only other one retired at that time, or at least the official ceremonies for most were in the '90s.) Whether you want to call it retired or out of circulation, it amounts to the same thing. Ilitch and the team have honored that part, they just refuse to display it for whatever reason.


And back on topic, no. No to Fedorov. No to Osgood, or Datsyuk, or Zetterberg. Jersey retirement should be something truly special, and none of them are.

#2613013 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by kipwinger on 03 June 2015 - 12:30 PM

I'm really not trying to turn this into an Osgood debate, but it looks like it's already heading that way. 


Using the fact that Osgood "took advantage of all-star teams" against him completely ignores the fact that guys like Fuhr, Sawchuk, Plante, and Smith ALL played for dynasty teams as well. 


I don't see anybody arguing that Grant Fuhr's banner should be pulled down because he played with Messier and Gretzky. 

#2613219 The "enigmatic" Tomas Jurco: A Thread

Posted by number9 on 04 June 2015 - 11:28 PM

If they would've left tats, sheahan, and Jurco together I think the chemistry alone would've upped his production.
Worst case scenario, he's big, fast, hits, and his production hasn't made his value rise to the point of deserving a huge raise...
So even if he doesn't become a top six guy within the next few years, keeping him won't be too costly.
Plus, he does have the potential to break out.
There is just too Much to like about him to worry about his stats just yet


I feel like Jurco has the skill size and speed, that'd I'd b fine paying him contracts based on production for years to come, even if he doesn't score crazy amounts (but scores enough where his contract is viable) I'd be happy with it. He's the kind of player that could break out tomorrow, or at 26. Either way I want him on my team, he has all the skills.

#2614127 Report: Cleary wants to return for 1 more season

Posted by krsmith17 on 12 June 2015 - 12:52 PM

Yes, Jurco could have and should have been sent down last season. I think he should have started the season in Grand Rapids, even if we were short with the big club and we had to sign a vet. He simply wasn't ready. There's not a doubt in my mind that both Jurco and Pulkkinen would have benefitted from Tomas spending one more season in the minors. Make no mistake though, losing Nestrasil to Carolina last season was no huge loss, by any stretch. He will top out at 30 points, and those players are a dime a dozen.


On Cleary, I honestly don't believe he will be on the 23 man roster in October. If he is offered another contract it will be based on a tryout. I'd love to see him stay with the organization, much like Draper and Maltby have, in some sort of training (strength and conditioning) role. I love Cleary, being a fellow Newfie, and I wish he had more left in the tank, but it's clear that he has given all he can as a player. He's done...

#2613976 Free agents this off season

Posted by DickieDunn on 11 June 2015 - 10:30 AM

My Perfect off season.....Blashill (check!)
Trade Weiss, Smith and Kindl, rights to Andersson all for more draft picks.
Sign Mike Green, Cody Franson and Carl Soderberg.
Re-Sign ALL our other RFA's.
Keep Marchenko, Sproul and Ouellet in GR for HUGE minutes.
Promote permanently Jensen, Ferraro, Callahan.
Franzen to LTIR "retirement."

You're going to be disappointed

#2613305 Which Sweater Do RWs Retire First - Feds or Ozzy?

Posted by kliq on 06 June 2015 - 01:12 AM

Wait, what? Sergei Fedorov was a "good" player? How jaded are these fans...without that "good" player, Detroit is still in a Stanley Cup drought...I believe that whole-heartedly...


We won in 2008 without Fedorov. Why would we still be in a cup drought without him?

#2613157 Khan: Jeff Blashill to be announced new head coach next week

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 04 June 2015 - 02:54 PM

Greg Brady ‏@bradyfan590 8h8 hours ago
Two things: #NHL prefers it be announced on off-day between G3/G4 of Stanley Cup Final. Blashill has expressed some interest in....

I hope they announce that s*** *during* thef****** game.

And big ups (1991 called, wants its slang back) to the Knube!

Edit: wow thats a lot **** of *****f****** ****stars ****