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#2078362 Babcock considers having 'warm, gooey spot' for Chris Osgood

Posted by GoWings1905 on 15 December 2010 - 01:51 PM

I don't think Babcock is "afraid" to play Osgood in back to backs, Howard is the starter. How many teams will play the backup for consecutive games without an injury or horrible play by the starter?


I think Jimmy is nearing or has already surpassed that lately.


#2076788 Which Is the Better Team?

Posted by GoWings1905 on 12 December 2010 - 07:24 PM

The East is a joke. The Red Wings are the best team in the league.

I don't know how to elaborate beyond that.


#2068552 How Long has Huds got?

Posted by GoWings1905 on 25 November 2010 - 05:19 PM

Listen, before Hudler left for Russia, he was offered a $3.5M contract in which he turned own and went to arbitration. He ran to Russia for more money and was awarded a lessor contract with the Wings than he was offered before arbitration. Now he runs back crying and doesn't produce, he will now be gone, because Mike Ilitch has the control, NOT the player.

The Fedorov comaprison? He turned down a contract from Ilitch, then later when he was offered a lessor one, he left for Anaheim. Then in 2008 when Fedorov wanted to come back via the trade deadline and even though some folks in the organization wanted him back, someone in the higer ups (possibly Ilitch) told Holland NO. Thats the only comparison. You don't spite the owner. Especially an owner with the power of Mr. Ilitch.

That being explained, have a great career Hudler, hope Russia was worth it! Trade him to the Island for a 2nd rouder, which will end up a pick in the 30's...


What gives you the impression some team would trade a second round pick for Hudler especially at this time? Brad Stuart went for a third and he's infinitely more valuable than Hudler.

Yeah because Hudler offers the forechecking, very solid defensive play, penalty killing ability and versatility that Filpulla offers to go along with his lower point total. :rolleyes:


This team is built to win now. We dont have time to wait for guys to shape up. We could get a solid prospect for him instead of sitting around on his cap hit waiting for him to improve, just imrpove a cheap prospect.

He has never been liked by Babcock even when he was putting up 60 points, you think Babcock is gonna let him stick around much longer if hes not putting up points?


Same story, different season from Filppula. He's the reason Datsyuk and Zetterberg are going to get split up if he continues not to produce offensively as the second line center.


#2065763 11/19 GDT: Wild 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by GoWings1905 on 19 November 2010 - 10:34 PM

Win as a team, lose as a team. Goaltending was not great. Defense was not great. Our top line was not great either. Anyone blaming goaltending alone is an idiot. Blame the crap effort as a whole.


Except the Red Wings had the puck in Minnesota's zone 95% of the game and the Wild still managed to score four goals (three of which are solely on Howard).

I'm all for saying it wasn't a great team effort, but Jimmy Howard and his lack of rebound control cost us a point tonight. He'll bail the team out plenty this season, but he really deserves the blame for this loss. I think even idiots could see that.


#2062380 Flippula vs Hudler

Posted by GoWings1905 on 12 November 2010 - 11:31 PM

Yep. Cleary is one of Babcock's favorites, and Modano is not going to sit unless he wants to. Babs has never been a Huds fan, and the fourth line was playing well. So Hudler was doomed to sit with the line not meshing.


That's just silly. Cleary plays because he works his ass off every shift and is the most versatile forward on the team. Not to mention, he has six times as many goals as Hudler, seven more points, is a respectable plus two after starting in a huge hole (Hudler is still a minus six) and he kills penalties. If Cleary is one of Babcock's favorites, it's because he earned it - something Hudler has yet to do even remotely this season. I'm not saying that Modano and Cleary don't share some fault for the third line not clicking, but they seem to be doing rather well now with Abdelkader or Bertuzzi as the third member. Hudler looked better against the Oilers, but Babcock is exactly right in that he needs to bring that effort far more consistently than he has to this point.

I like Hudler, am geninuely glad he came back and feel he will be a valuable asset to the Red Wings as the season progesses. I couldn't care less about the Filppula vs. Hudler debate because they are both Red Wings and I don't give a crap about one side of the respective player's fans being able to say they were right all along. We should all want both of them to succeed.


#2054739 Abdlekader in, Osgood to start again.

Posted by GoWings1905 on 29 October 2010 - 09:05 PM

I think it should be Cleary. Hudler got us a goal last game and I think Modano as looked good out there. Cleary hasn't done s*** on the other hand.


What? Cleary has been the only guy worth a damn on that line. Neither Modano nor Hudler have played any semblance of defense or went hard after a puck the entire season. Babcock must think Cleary is doing just fine - he gets moved up to Hank and Pavel's line in tight games. There's a reason for that.

Modano is brutal. His effort is pathetic. He should be the one to sit and bring Abdelkader in to center the third line. Modano has been the worst forward on the team by far.


#2048573 Wings need a goalie

Posted by GoWings1905 on 17 October 2010 - 11:26 AM

Can't wait til OsBad and Draper get off the books, things will be looking up!



If Osgood was making 700k i don't think many people would have a problem, because he is OK as a back up. There's still better ones out there however.


That comment doesn't even make sense. If those two are having a major effect on the Red Wings success to begin with, then this team is already in a ton of trouble. You are saying a back-up goalie and possible 4th liner being gone is going to open up a realm of great things?

The OsBad thing is just stupid. I don't think a goalie about to hit 400 career wins is "bad". Interesting perspective though.


#2047377 Wings need a goalie

Posted by GoWings1905 on 15 October 2010 - 12:03 PM

Yeah, because Jimmy was so stellar against the Avalanche.

The entire team needs to work harder and get back to the level they were last weekend. The Red Wings were going to lose the past two games regardless of the goalie. The defensive coverage is pathetic.


#2045959 10/12 GDT: Avalanche 5 at Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by GoWings1905 on 13 October 2010 - 02:18 PM

that is babcocks way of saying he was bad in the game.

babcock didn't work in sports psychology for nothing.


Exactly. Babcock was clearly implying he didn't think too highly of Jimmy's performance before the shootout.


#2045857 10/12 GDT: Avalanche 5 at Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by GoWings1905 on 13 October 2010 - 09:40 AM

I'll just say this: If Ozzie had let in that second and fourth goal last night, this thread would be twice as long. Those were bad goals. I thought the third was stoppable too considering Jimmy got beat on the short-side. I'm not clamoring already for Ozzie to start, but we need Jimmy to be stronger on nights when the team in front of him is clearly off their game.

I thought the whole team looked like garbage last night besides a handful of players. Colorado had the puck way too much outside of a few spurts from the Red Wings. We had no answer to their forecheck, got trapped in our zone for extended stretches and took penalties because of it. The Avalanche outworked the Red Wings plain and simple.


#2041676 Tomorrow night - What would you rather see?

Posted by GoWings1905 on 07 October 2010 - 09:16 PM

I appreciate everything Maltby has given to the Red Wings, but I want to win. This may sound silly in October, but seriously two points in the Western Conference can be a huge deal in April. Does Bertuzzi make or break the Wings chances of winning tomorrow night? Probably not, but I want to see what that second line can do as soon as possible. If Bertuzzi is healthy enough, he should and will play. I think the sentiment is nice because of Maltby's role and tenure with the Red Wings, but let's remember the goal of this organization is to win. Maltby understands that as much as anyone.


#2040929 Ritola will be traded or waived

Posted by GoWings1905 on 05 October 2010 - 08:09 PM

Yeah man, with Helm, Abdelkader, Eaves, Filppula, Cleary, Draper, we're so short on PK options!!


No kidding, I couldn't agree more. People act like losing Miller means we have nobody left to kill penalties. The Red Wings are frickin loaded with solid defensive forwards. Besides, how many penalties is Miller going to kill as the 13th forward which he will be when everyone is healthy?

Hell, I know Babcock prefers to keep their minutes down but we also have the luxury of throwing two of the best defensive forwards out there to kill penalties if necessary. There are hundreds of Drew Miller's floating around in the NHL and we kept one for a year over a prospect that could develop into far more than anything Miller has. I don't even care so much what Ritola did compared to Miller right now. In the future, this appears to be a very short-sighted decision. The Red Wings gave up potential to keep a 13th forward.


#2038719 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by GoWings1905 on 30 September 2010 - 10:45 PM

When you've got guys like Downey on your team, opposing players think twice about throwing cheapshots. I agree with you in the sense that a guy that can do a little bit of everything would be ideal.


I'm not arguing that what you are stating is always false, but Brooks Orpik threw a cheapshot at Franzen a week ago and Downey was dressed that night. Sure, Bertuzzi defended Franzen after but having Downey around didn't cause Orpik to think twice. It's like the Laraque on Kronwall argument from last season - Laraque was going to stick his knee out regardless of the consequences to follow. Cheapshots are going to happen in the game.


#2038313 Wings release Aaron Downey

Posted by GoWings1905 on 29 September 2010 - 08:37 PM

Welcome to another year of cheapshots on Franzen, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg. The Brooks Orpik hit is only the beginning of what we're gonna see.


Glad Downey was there to prevent that.


#2036584 Tonights line-up against Chicago

Posted by GoWings1905 on 25 September 2010 - 10:01 AM

Oh my, I thought last December with the injuries was a bad roster.

I know, I know - it's preseason.