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#2340948 GM Ken Holland says Red Wings might not make playoffs this year

Posted by GoWings1905 on 17 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="chrisdetroit" data-cid="2340924" data-time="1358445133"><p>
The pessimism is astounding.  The shortened season is working against us?  Why is it working against us more than everybody else?  Because we are older?  But you could argue that the short season benefits the older guys and that the younger guys have less time to gain experience.  It's all a matter of how you look at it.  Detroit has the oldest team in the league but NJ is second and they lost in the finals last year.<br />
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Try to be objective people.  Chicago did not improve, St. Louis did not improve, Nashville got worse, Columbus got worse.  7 teams in the west will not make the playoffs.  IMO they are:<br />
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Columbus<br />
Colorado<br />
Minny<br />
Edmonton<br />
Calgary<br />
Anaheim<br />
Dallas<br />
Phoenix<br />
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That's actually (8).  Which 2 of those teams is better than us?  I can't think of any Norris trophy candidates on any of those teams.  We no longer have the best D-man in the West but neither do any of these 8.</p></blockquote>

In all of your "objective" points, you neglected mentioning the Red Wings team that won one playoff game also got worse. Lost two top-four defensemen and couldn't score goals when it mattered. The league has caught up and the Western Conference is very tough. It's not pessimism -- just reality and honest assessment of the current situation, which our own GM seems to agree with.

I still think the Red Wings get in the playoffs as a lower seed, but there's a very real chance they also miss out.

#2340156 Holland has only traded two roster players since 2002

Posted by GoWings1905 on 15 January 2013 - 12:57 AM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="The Axe" data-cid="2340133" data-time="1358219306"><p>
No Parise. No Suter. Holland should have made these happen.</p></blockquote>

Holland did all he could. They chose not to come to Detroit. How is that his fault?

#2339625 Wings give Mike Knuble a tryout

Posted by GoWings1905 on 12 January 2013 - 10:46 PM

I wouldn't want Knuble playing over Miller. Drew is extremely valuable to the penalty kill (even more with Eaves out) and has shown the ability to chip in offensively.

#2338674 I need a prayer answered, please.....no toot-toot whistles.

Posted by GoWings1905 on 08 January 2013 - 09:22 PM

Please no. Let's try to continue not doing anything that resembles the Nashville fan base.

#2338331 Tomas Holmstrom Retires

Posted by GoWings1905 on 07 January 2013 - 06:52 PM

What a career. Just brilliant hand-eye coordination and played his role in front of the crease better than anyone. I can't believe his body held up well enough as long as it did to continue playing. Truly a warrior and a major piece to the Red Wings having four championships.


Thanks for the memories, Homer. Damn, I hate losing all of these guys that we have lately.

#2337375 Lidstrom - it is time

Posted by GoWings1905 on 02 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

The man gave his heart and soul to the Red Wings organization for two decades. Everything about Nick's character alone makes this suggestion unrealistic and selfish.


Enjoy retirement, #5.

#2337303 NHL submits offer to NHLPA - **Suspension Warning Post #70 & #273*

Posted by GoWings1905 on 02 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

Please not more teams in the playoffs. They have already watered down the best event in sports with forced parity.

#2336581 Players That Never Played in Detroit

Posted by GoWings1905 on 22 December 2012 - 12:36 AM

Along the Bertuzzi line, always liked Markus Naslund.

#2335819 Why no youth injecton

Posted by GoWings1905 on 10 December 2012 - 05:32 PM

The Red Wings have been getting younger, particularly at a pretty rapid pace the past two summers. Like Buppy stated, the Red Wings have been picking in the 20's for two decades now so it's tougher to inject quality young talent than say a Chicago did.

Fortunately, nobody has scouted nor developed players from later rounds better than the Red Wings. Very few franchises can sustain success without having to go through a rebuild. 20 plus years in an era of free agency and parity is nothing short of impossible.

The crossroads are here now for the Red Wings. They are younger and haven't picked high plus other teams have caught up in scouting. We are going to see an adjustment period and it may not be pretty short-term, but you can also already see the evidence that the front office is adapting to the league. We have needed to get bigger, faster and younger for years.
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#2335075 New fan.. need advice

Posted by GoWings1905 on 01 December 2012 - 01:14 PM

Run away before you get addicted and get your soul crushed by a jackass commissioner and a bunch of billionaires.

#2335020 Most important moments in Wings history

Posted by GoWings1905 on 30 November 2012 - 11:25 AM

March 26, 1997.

A champion was born that day.

#2334353 Has your opinion of kenny changed?

Posted by GoWings1905 on 20 November 2012 - 01:54 PM

Holland did the best he could this summer. Can't fault him for Suter choosing to play elsewhere.

My complaint will always be with Holland's lack of action in the years leading up to this off-season. Rafalski was a surprise retirement, but everyone knew Nick's days were dwindling and Stu was going back to California.

#2333454 Red Wings Off Season: I Give Them an A

Posted by GoWings1905 on 04 November 2012 - 11:26 AM

I think an "A" is a little generous. At best, I would give it a "C". Love the Tootoo move to add a different element to an already strong bottom-six. Not really thrilled about signing an aging Samuelsson (again) and expecting him to contribute offensively in a top-six role. The top-six has really been stagnant for years -- Zetterberg and Datsyuk have to generate everything offensively and in the playoffs especially lately, we don't have forwards that can score goals in tight games. Filppula had a terrific breakout season. Can he duplicate it or even get better? We all know what Franzen provides. The other two spots belong to maybe Bertuzzi and Samuelsson? I have said it in other threads previously discussing the off-season, but the Red Wings are going to need Nyquist and/or Brunner to contribute immediately whenever hockey resumes.

The defense is bad. Losing three of your top four d-men in two years is not a good situation especially when one of them is Nick Lidstrom. Obviously there's no replacing him and Holland did his best to secure the closest thing in Suter. I can't get upset over that, but it does bother me more wasn't done in advance when it was clear Nick's days were winding down and Stuart was going back to California. Colaiacovo is a decent depth signing (if healthy), however, who logs big minutes on this defense now besides Kronner? You are asking for major leaps out of Quincey and Ericsson, plus rapid development from Smith. I think all of that is certainly possible, but it's a rather scary position to be in.

A lot of things would have go to well for the Red Wings to even win a playoff round with this roster. Remember, they won ONE game last spring with Lidstrom around. The transition to being younger, bigger and faster is finally taking place at least.

#2331930 Best pure goal scorer for the Wings

Posted by GoWings1905 on 17 October 2012 - 12:00 PM

I don't think any of them are really natural goal-scorers. Franzen could probably get classified as that because all he does is score goals, unlike the other three. The Red Wings haven't had a legitimate sniper since Hossa.

Of the four, I would take Z. His backhand is sick and he scored goals at a nice clip until his game evolved more as a center.

#2331670 Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

Posted by GoWings1905 on 15 October 2012 - 07:22 PM

So 70% of you are insane... Pretty shocked by these poll results

Season is toast anyway. What's insane about wanting the source of another lockout gone?