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#2315158 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by GoWings1905 on 04 July 2012 - 06:52 PM

Wings aren't gonna get Nash. I can't see how any of you can think otherwise. Traded to a division rival? Just not gonna happen.


Agreed. If Columbus wants the Rangers to blow them out of the water, the price for the Red Wings will be completely insane. I can't even imagine a package that would suffice considering the Rangers have a plethora of more viable assets to offer.


#2314631 Ryan Suter agrees to 13-year, $98-mil deal with Wild

Posted by GoWings1905 on 04 July 2012 - 12:06 PM

I don't really buy "at least the Penguins/Blackhawks didn't get better angle." Sure, the Wild are probably a little further from contending than those two, but honestly the Red Wings aren't any closer than the Wild today.

It's fine to be relieved when your biggest competitors didn't improve in a position of strength. Right now, the Red Wings aren't sitting there at all. We needed at least Suter to even stay in the conversation next season.


#2314260 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by GoWings1905 on 04 July 2012 - 09:18 AM

If both are deciding today at/near the same time, I don't think that looks too promising. Unfortunately, that screams to me both are going to the Wild like reports suggest.

I wasn't going to be too bummed if the Red Wings didn't land Parise, but not getting Suter is going to sting a lot. Suter was an absolute necessity IMO. There were some nice fallback options still available at forward without getting Parise. There is nothing on defense close to Suter.

If they do both go together, I will be interested to see the terms of the deal.


#2313929 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by GoWings1905 on 03 July 2012 - 06:47 PM

Yes, people are f***in mad that these dumbasses act like they did no f***in planning before July 1 at all. July 1st ain't the f***in' time to start researching schools and neighborhoods and asking your wife.

esteef


Why are they obligated to decide right on July 1st? Because we are anxious as fans?

Besides, they had no certainty where the offers would come from until two days ago. Both guys are nothing but professional on and off the ice by all accounts. I think it's absurd how mad people are getting that they haven't made one of the biggest choices in their lives on a whim.


#2313902 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by GoWings1905 on 03 July 2012 - 05:58 PM

Wow, a lot of anger here. I don't think Suter has done anything remotely wrong. If I had ~20 job offers, maybe five of them being exceptional, I would sure as hell take the time to make a well-rounded decision. These guys are only going to get this chance once and their choice is likely going to be their home for the rest of their playing careers. It has only been a couple days and there are so many factors to consider.

If Suter wants to be a Red Wing, it will happen. I'm confident that will ultimately be the case.


#2313336 Jiri Hudler signs with Calgary, 4 years, $4m/year

Posted by GoWings1905 on 02 July 2012 - 10:03 PM

I'm not upset Hudler left (it was expected and that's an expensive deal), but I don't really feel the need to celebrate about it either. While he had many faults that have been covered here already, he also had a knack for scoring goals. The Red Wings don't exactly have many players that fit that description on the roster. Obviously the addition of Samuelsson you hope will cover up some of that offensive production, but there's plenty of reason not to believe Sammy will accomplish anything close to 50 points with his recent history. Brunner is an unknown at the NHL level.

I don't want Hudler for four million, though for a team that scored nine goals in five playoff games, I'm not exactly thrilled either to see offense departing. Another goal-scoring top-six forward is still a necessity.


#2312386 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by GoWings1905 on 01 July 2012 - 08:05 PM

After this settled in for a bit, I don't hate the Tootoo signing as much as my initial reaction. There was that element of disliking the guy a lot from playing for Nashville for so long, but ultimately I think this is a pretty decent move for the Red Wings.

The Red Wings 4th line was atrocious last season. It had no identity and provided absolutely nothing that you would expect from a typical 4th line. Instead of leftovers and marginal skill players, at least Holland is attempting to build a 4th line that will play hard and ideally bring some energy to the team. Babcock stressed the importance of having a solid bottom-six and now the Red Wings have some players to complement Helm causing damage on the 3rd line.

If Tootoo goes out and forechecks hard, hits and chips in offensively too, this can be a positive signing for the Red Wings. The key is just keeping Tootoo under control and not taking stupid penalties instead. I agree with those that have said Tootoo and Abdelkader together would be a nice combination.

I think ultimately today felt like a disappointment because it didn't include that big name free agent catch. In reality though, the Red Wings addressed two needs in getting a backup goalie and improving the 4th line. The Samuelsson thing -- well, I can't put a positive spin too much on that move yet. Still time for Holland to make a splash through free agency or swinging a trade.


#2311501 The Grass Is Always Greener - Johan Franzen

Posted by GoWings1905 on 30 June 2012 - 07:15 PM

Lucic and Franzen both have 4 million dollar cap hits. Lucic is $100,000 more, but I digress.....

Lucic: 26 goals and 35 assists in 81 games
Franzen: 29 goals and 27 assists in 77 games

Interesting how they have the same numbers from production, and get paid the same. Would I rather have Lucic? I have a feeling the drones on this forum would ***** about him as well.

As for Simmonds, he is paid $3.5 million for lower numbers, but he has a high upswing if things continue to go his way.

Point is that you haven't shown me a "power forward" that is doing better than Franzen for the same cap hit.


This has done nothing to prove Franzen is a power forward. We all know he can score goals -- that isn't the debate here. It's the manner in which Franzen scores those goals and what he isn't willing to do to establish himself as a real power forward. Stats aren't going to prove the argument. All you need to do is watch Franzen's effort on the ice.


#2311262 Paul Gaustad re-signs with Predators

Posted by GoWings1905 on 29 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

Would rather have Abby as a 4th line centre with Prust keeping check from the wing.


Agreed. I don't really prefer Abby at center in general, but I would gladly take it if Prust was added to the 4th line. I just want to see a 4th line that is actually molded like one this season -- not a combination of leftovers and marginal skill players.


#2311251 The Grass Is Always Greener - Johan Franzen

Posted by GoWings1905 on 29 June 2012 - 07:03 PM

IMHO, Franzen "floats" a lot less than people here say who "watch the games". He is not paid for speed. He is paid to be a power forward.


There's a lot of people that watch games that feel Franzen floats. I bet a large majority of Red Wings fans would classify Franzen as lazy. This isn't some random concept perpetuated by a few fans.

As for being a power forward, Franzen isn't really doing that either. Hudler went to the net more in the playoff series than Franzen did. For a dude with as much size as Franzen has, he rarely utilizes it. He isn't physical, nor willing to play in the tough areas of the ice most of the time. I will give him credit that he has a great wrist shot and can score goals effectively in that manner. Though in no way would I call Franzen a true power forward.


#2311013 Hudler to test free agency

Posted by GoWings1905 on 29 June 2012 - 09:55 AM

A very streaky player like Hudler can leave. If he is scoring then he is helping out if he ain't scoring he is a waste of space. No speed, no defensive play, lack of strength/size, poor work ethic, etc. His streaky play is part of the problem not part of the solution.


Hmm... sounds a lot like someone else on the team too.

As for Hudler, I'm not going to be that upset if he takes a larger offer elsewhere. However, it does concern me that the Red Wings are losing 25 goals and were already in need of adding to the top-six with Hudler around. There's nobody internally on the roster that is going to score 25 next season. As one-dimensional as Hudler is as a player, the Red Wings are lacking that dimension. Holland really has his work cut out for him.


#2308980 2012 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by GoWings1905 on 22 June 2012 - 08:31 PM

I haven't seen any indication reported that Holland was going to aggressively pursue trades at the draft. I truly don't understand the panic with nothing happening so far. The Red Wings have plenty of cap space and the front office has stated all along they planned to utilize free agency to address their needs.

I will be worried on July 2nd if the Red Wings haven't made moves. Until then, I was never expecting anything major to occur this weekend. There's not much need for it.


#2308168 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by GoWings1905 on 19 June 2012 - 11:42 PM

Excellent deal for both Helm and the Red Wings going forward. If Helm can just improve his scoring touch -- in addition to everything else he already excels at on the ice -- this contract will look like a steal down the road. I couldn't agree more with Holland in saying Helm is a perfect third line center. The Red Wings (specifically the bottom six forwards) are a different group when Helm is healthy. His energy, speed and tenacity on the forecheck can't be matched.

Sounds like everything is going well in Helm's recovery too. Hopefully the same is true with Eaves. Would love to see those two on a line with Miller causing chaos next season.


#2308167 Bobby Ryan

Posted by GoWings1905 on 19 June 2012 - 11:32 PM

I really fail to see the point of the Red Wings making trades right now. Why give up valuable assets when they have the ability to address their needs through free agency very soon? They have the cap space to sign the top free agents available without giving up major pieces of the team now and in the future.

Trades would be a nice fallback option after July 1st maybe, but I don't see any reason for Holland to start making deals at the draft.


#2307930 Brad Stuart's rights traded to San Jose

Posted by GoWings1905 on 18 June 2012 - 10:00 PM

I'm happy everything worked out well for Stuart. It sucks to see him with a team like the Sharks, but I will never fault Stuart for doing what is best for his family. All of the negative comments being thrown at Stuart are unfair. I remember after the Red Wings won the cup in 2008, it was widely speculated that Stuart would end up going back out west then. He sacrificed and gave the Red Wings four more years of service and steady play on defense.

I do feel Stuart is on the decline, but the timing of him leaving is really unfortunate for the Red Wings. Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart all gone within a year -- overhauling 3/4 of a top four on defense that quickly is quite the challenge. There was nothing flashy about Stuart, however he was extremely reliable and consistent. He could eat up minutes and was the best penalty killer/shot blocker on the team. Ericsson looked capable of sliding into that role and now we have to hope Quincey steps up and improves his play as well to help fill the void.

As for the above claiming Stuart "quit", that's why I never read the comments on any MLive article. I swear the most obnoxious, fickle and ignorant fans all flock there. It is the same thing with the Tigers too. Ansar Khan is really good in his coverage of the Red Wings, so the articles themselves are worthwhile, but you end up hating humanity reading the comments.