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#2529786 Favorite Ken Holland Catchphrase / Quote

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 03 July 2014 - 02:07 PM

My vote: "I don't know why they're not coming here" because it demonstrates, more than any of the other quotes, just how out-of-touch Holland seems to be. The league might have passed him by.

#2529506 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 02 July 2014 - 02:04 PM

Cinderella frauds occasionally make the Finals. They don't win. Cinderella teams also occasionally take a 3-1 lead on the eventual Stanley Cup champs only to be exposed in games 5, 6, and 7.
Don't be fooled by Cinderella. She's really a homely girl with a mop and bucket.

While all this may be true, I'd still rather be Cinderella than an ugly stepsister. :(

#2529489 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 02 July 2014 - 01:10 PM

Cinderella frauds occasionally make the Finals. They don't win. Cinderella teams also occasionally take a 3-1 lead on the eventual Stanley Cup champs only to be exposed in games 5, 6, and 7.


Don't be fooled by Cinderella. She's really a homely girl with a mop and bucket.

#2529143 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 01 July 2014 - 08:41 PM


But it is a rebuild, just of a different kind, because KH and co realised that they could break the mould, and actually re-tool on the fly and still remain competitive. 


Why the hell do we need a new coach? Babcock is arguably one of the top 3 coaches in the league right now. And we should replace him with Blashill? Who has how many years of NHL head coaching experience? WHy? Out of principle? 


Why should we trade Pavel and Hank away, when they have proven themselves time and time again? This team that we have right now is a better, deeper, younger team than that of only 2 years ago that put Chicago on the ropes. We've got better scoring depth, better youth. 


We have promoted the kids from GR. NOt all of them, but not all of them have shown that they are ready yet either. Hence why Mantha will most likely start in GR this season, and be the first recall. Why rush your prospects when they are not ready to the point where it stunts their development? 


And has actually, anyone here thought the last two seasons boring? The playoff run in 2013 was incredibly. Heartwrenching yes but it was a terrific ride. Just like this season and the battle against injuries and the rise of Gus and Tatar. For me, it speaks to how well this organisation is run, that even when the s*** hits the fan, we still make the playoffs because we draft so much better and develop so much better than the rest of the league. 


As so many have repeated, it is highly unlikely to rebuild successfully in today's NHL without tanking and thereby securing very high draft picks for a couple of years or more.


There is no future franchise player on the Wings' roster and quite possibly not in the minors (so say statistics). Yes, the Wings have some good young talent, but they don't have what a few years of top 4 picks would garner them.


Anyone (not you in particular) who mistakes Nyquist and Tatar for the next coming of 19 and 91 or for Dats and Z is deluded. Likewise, DD is not the next Lidstrom.

#2528495 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:25 PM

Has anyone checked to make sure that Ken Holland isn't actually dead?  He might very well be dead...from the shame of not making a trade before the draft...and is still lying on his bathroom floor somewhere in suburban Detroit.  I say "bathroom floor" because he must surely have been looking at himself in the mirror saying "what happened to you?...You used to be so...so...so..." right before his heart exploded. 


This would explain why there were no moves today.  The fact that everyone hates hisf****** guts for destroying our team would explain why nobody has bothered to go looking for him. 

#2524287 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by kipwinger on 17 June 2014 - 05:31 PM

If we burn Dan Cleary in effigy outside Joe Louis Arena do you think everyone involved will get the point?

#2524244 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by FireCaptain on 17 June 2014 - 01:11 PM




#2522847 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 05 June 2014 - 01:36 AM

Holland's newest round of comments makes it sound like we're not interested in doing anything big, in free agency or the trade market. Sometimes I want to punch him in the face. Not literally. Figuratively. I guess.

I'd like to physically punch him in the face, partly because I know he doesn't have an enforcer to keep me honest.

#2522488 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Dave on 02 June 2014 - 09:27 AM

Why Not...


1. Trade Jurco, Andersson, 2014 1st Round Pick (#15) for Ryan Kesler

2. Trade Dekeyser, Tatar, Marchenko, and 2015 1st + 2016 Cond 2nd for Shea Weber

3. Sign Boyle

4. Re-Sign Alfie









KINDL         - SMITH




Then lets flip Abs and Helm 1st+2nd+3rd+4th+5th+6th for Malkin and Letang

#2519139 WCSF : (6) Los Angeles Cartmans vs. (1) Coach Bombay and the Quacks

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 04 May 2014 - 01:28 AM

Officially on the Kings bandwagon. 

#2518706 Jaroslav Halak's negotiating rights traded to Islanders.

Posted by Dabura on 01 May 2014 - 03:07 PM

Nabokov is, like, 70 years old.


Ken Holland is so turned on right now.

#2518652 Jimmy Howard's head is missing

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 01 May 2014 - 11:08 AM

Well now we know why he was having trouble keeping his head in the game.

#2518429 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 30 April 2014 - 07:13 PM

Can we buy out Holland instead?

#2518386 Red Wings expect changes for 2014 - 2015

Posted by FireCaptain on 30 April 2014 - 02:00 PM

That Zetterberg guy is double shifting every game! He's a BEAST!!



Zetterberg - Datsyuk - real top line winger

good winger - Zetterberg - Nyquist

Abdelkader - Helm - Tatar

McGrattan - Sheahan - Jurco


Kronwall - real #1 defenseman

Smith - Ericsson

Dekeyser - Sproul



Good playoff goalie


#2518199 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by frankgrimes on 29 April 2014 - 01:38 PM

I honestly believe some people are really overestimating the "power" of us fans. Nothing we discuss here or somewhere else will have a direct impact on this organization, we have the luxury of acting like armchair-GMs positevly as well as negatively. That being said, I love the different viewings here on this board - compared to crap like HFboards where  mods/admins will ban you - if you don't agree with their viewpoint things are discussed in a very civil manner here. The best part of it all is the focus on purely one team with some nice guests and information about other teams such as the Preds fan.


Holland has done a marvelous job over the years nobody is denying that but I'm questioning if he has still the fire, drive to go with a changed landscape ? Nobody other than himself can answer this question, the league has changed teams have to bring a heavy, physical game alongside skill now more than ever. One thing I did see and learn in the series against Boston is this, not only do you need to be physical you also need a smooth transistioning from the D to the offense and a goalie who will bail you out more often than not, i.e a perfect built team i.e Boston this year. Yes, they like the Wings will have some tough decisions to make thanks to the CBA but their big advantage is the grind-thing, when your team isn't purely built on skilled it's easier to fill the grinders "blue collar" spots with cheaper players or lower draft picks. So personally I expect them to be very good for at least a few more years.


Don't get me wrong I like the way how some of the GR prospects are coming along but let's keep the expectations in check, nobody not even Babock thought Nyquist would be that ready so he surprised almost everyone in the organization. That being said his scoring pace was stamkoslike and I really hope people aren't going to expect that from him every season, if this guy can become a solid 20 - 25 goalscorer annually I would be extremely happy the same goes for Tatar. Another factor are the opponents, at first new players aren't seen as dangerous - unless of course you are a top 10 or whatever pick - as time goes on tthe opponents are more aware of certain players and play them harder, more focused or ice their best lines, pairings against certain players. At this point the new players has to adopt and that's also the point, where they define their own road. 


I did a quick look at the upcoming UFA pool and boy oh boy does that look like one meh class, NO star defenseman available and not one star winger that's just ridiculous. Nothing against guys like Niskanen - would love him here - but if he is by far the best available defenseman that's really telling. But the difference between this summer and some others is this:


The coach, captain are getting antsy of just squeezing into the playoffs and I'm sure if you ask them both would rather end the streak and if it means winning cup th next or following year. I still rank Holland in the top 5 in terms of GMs but - like everyone else - he has made some mistakes and seems to be panicking more often than not (Quincey, Legwand, Kindl...) so this is also his summer to show the fans and everyone in the league that he is still the top guy or at least on pair with guys like Chiarelli, Lombardi, Poile and Shero. Bringing back Alfie would be a mistake in my mind, he doesn't add anything if you don't play him on one of the top two lines but the thing is, even Abdelkader produced as Pasha's wing that's how good the two euro twins are but expecting a 41 years old Alfredsson to carry a line might be too much to ask. If the Wings would be looking for leadership and some veteran depth adding to an already stacked roster sure re-sign him but the Wings are retooling/building on the fly so I'd rather see him having a great last year in Ottawa and get his number deservingly retired there.


The needs are clear:

- size, grit --> easy to acquire and not expensive so there is absolutely no excuse to not sign guys like McGrattan, Orr for a fourth line role

- defense --> I cringe at the idea of signing Boyle rather have Niskanen but if we lose out on him I really don#t know who else would be a helpful edition :(

- pure goalscorer --> many will disagree but I'd rather have Moulson (cheaper almost same production) than Vanek


tl;dr - the off-season will be interesting and Kenny has a lot of capspace to play with