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#2455733 Notable Griffins

Posted by Crymson on 20 November 2013 - 01:33 PM

And now for something completely different: some good news. Several Griffins are having very good seasons.



  • Gustav Nyquist: Gus is doing very well in a league in which he very clearly does not belong. He scores at a prolific rate and skates circles around the opposition. He's currently #5 in the league in points, and it goes without saying that he should be in the NHL.
  • Tomas Jurco: Jurco is demonstrating why he was so hyped as a prospect. He couples excellent speed and stickhandling with an excellent wrist shot and a willingness to use it. He currently leads the Griffins in goals (9) and shots on goal (42) in 16 games, and ranks 2nd in points. His offensive production ranks him at #10 in the league.
  • Teemu Pulkkinen: The concerns about Pulkkinen's ability to play the North American game seem to have been unfounded. His rookie season is going quite well so far. He's tied for second in goals (6) and is shooting plenty (36), being tied for 2nd in that category as well. He is third on the team with 13 points.
  • Ryan Sproul: Sproul's rookie season is going very well. His 12 points (including five goals) place him at #4 on the team in scoring, and he's amongst the league leaders in points by a first-year defenseman. He's also tied for the best +/- on the team (+9); this puts him in a tie for third overall in the league in that category.



Not bad.

#2457597 What Does This Team Need More/Most?

Posted by Hairy Lime on 24 November 2013 - 11:33 AM


#2455933 Official 2013 MLB Thread

Posted by cusimano_brothers on 21 November 2013 - 07:47 AM

And in the end, he turned out to be a:



#2455826 Respect Babcock and Holland

Posted by Dabura on 20 November 2013 - 04:42 PM


Find out what it means to me


Buy out Dan Cleary

#2453787 Cleary in, Tatar out against Caps

Posted by Crymson on 15 November 2013 - 12:06 AM

I don't know why Babcock continues trying to get Cleary going when it's obvious to all that Cleary's time as a productive player ended two seasons ago. The guy is still all heart, but heart cannot compensate for a total lack of physical acumen.

#2448924 What would you do?...

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 30 October 2013 - 07:14 PM

Commit harakiri from being stupid enough to riddle a roster with Cleary, Samuelsson and Bertuzzi.  

#2451383 Tootoo Waived

Posted by Jusek on 06 November 2013 - 01:51 PM

Saw this on hfboards, lol:




Gutted to see Toots waived, I like him a lot.

#2451330 Tootoo Waived

Posted by 55fan on 06 November 2013 - 12:25 PM

No.  Nonononononononononononono

<runs screaming into the night, except that it's 11 in the morning>


This seriously sucks.  He has more energy and can fight.  I'm very sad now.  If you need me, I'll be explaining this to my hamster, Jordin.

#2449390 Avs trade Downie to Flyers for Talbot

Posted by Crymson on 01 November 2013 - 04:48 AM

Perhaps there's more to the Avalanche than meets the eye.


That said, the Avs' success has been less the work of the skaters than the goalies behind them.

#2449430 Franzen believes hes playing well.

Posted by Dabura on 01 November 2013 - 10:43 AM

Could've had Hossa.

#2449232 It might be Illich, not Holland

Posted by Crymson on 31 October 2013 - 04:52 AM

First off, it's Ilitch, not Illitch. Second, you're referring to management rather than players; it is usual for owners to involve themselves with the former, but not the latter. Third, Ilitch is nearly 90 years old and is not nearly as involved with his sports teams as he was 20 years ago.


In other words, I think your theory holds no merit.

#2448774 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 30 October 2013 - 08:01 AM

Now we all have come up with hundreds of reasons of why we are were we are, that is the easy part. The hard part is what to do about it? We can't just sit by and "wait for the young guys'. Hell we are not using the 2 that are ready now. tatar and nyquist should be playing every damn game. if that means we cut a Sammy then do it! Sheahan and Jurco should be ready by the end of the year as well. but none of those 4 guys is going to make a major impact on our O. can they help? yes. But none of them are 60+ point 30+ goal guys. they don't do it in the minors, so they sure as heck are going to do it at a higher level.

The only forward in our entire system that looks like future star on O is Mantha, but it will take him 3-4 years to be at that level.

This means we have to go out and make trades and sign UFA's. There is no other way to do it right now. maybe 3 years from now we will have more talent/potential stars in our system. But we can't wait 3 years. if we do we will become a sub .500 team and miss the PO's several times in a row.

Now trades  require payment. You don't go out and pick up 30+ goal scorers for free. we can't pass on guys like Ryan when the chance is there. Be 100% honest, which would be better for us right now? tatar, nyquist, and the 2014 1st or Ryan? How about tatar, nyquist and a 2nd or Vanek? Point is we can come up with lots of names, and we need to make moves.

Jurco seems like a guy who will make an impact at the NHL level as long as he gets top 6 minutes, or is at least on a line with Nyquist/Tatar and Helm as a 3rd line.  Tatar and Nyquist could make an offensive impact, but they need to be on the team for starters and playing good minutes with good players, such as Dats, Z, Mule, Weiss, Alfredsson, Helm.....Andersson is a shutdown guy who needs to be our 4th line C fighting for a spot this summer against Glendening and Sheahan.  No more signing over the hill vets to 2 year contracts when we could have the guys mentioned as well as Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok, Tvrdon and then Mantha who currently has 39 points in 15 games, with 19 goals in the QMJHL.  That kid will certainly not kill our offence as long as he can take his game to the NHL level.  This summer, Kenny needs to let Cleary, Tuzzi, Sammy and Quincey go.

#2447131 Ten Games in: Player Grades

Posted by Crymson on 22 October 2013 - 09:39 PM

As I've got some time on my hands and figured that doing so would be enjoyable, I've jotted down my opinions on player performance thus far. Enjoy the read.



Justin Abdelkader: B. Abdelkader's role is to crash, bang, retrieve pucks, and score where he may, and he has done a fair job of it. He may be better suited to the third line, as he continues to have trouble producing elsewhere.


Daniel Alfredsson: A-. It took Alfie a few games to get comfortable, whereupon it quickly became apparent why this guy is a lock for the Hall of Fame. He excels on offense, is scrupulous on defense, and positively exudes poise. Now he just needs to start scoring goals.


Joakim Andersson: B+. Faceoffs and defensive play are Andersson’s roles, and he has been performing those admirably. His play in his own zone, already quite good last season, has shown marked improvement in the current campaign, and he has become a mainstay on the penalty kill. He’s committed to defensive play in a way that few players are. Unfortunately for him, he spent quite a bit of time on that abomination of a 3rd line with Bertuzzi and Cleary. As was shown in the game against the Sharks, he performs better on a shutdown line. Look for him to continue improving as he matures.


Todd Bertuzzi: C+. Three points just isn’t good enough for the role Bertuzzi plays. He certainly tries his hardest, and he’s still got a lot of talent, but his age is showing. While it’s possible that he’s not being optimally used, it’s clear that he’s no longer able to generate much offense of his own accord.


Daniel Cleary: D. Cleary has been virtually invisible when he isn’t falling down or making a mistake. He’s still got all the heart in the world, but his play is even more dismal than it was last season. He has been utterly ineffective on offense---Babcock seems to have recognized this, as Cleary’s power play time per game has dwindled to almost none---and even the famously hard-nosed element to his game seems to be absent now; for example, he currently ranks below even Johan Franzen in hits and blocked shots. I can’t say what he contributes behind the scenes, but right now he’s taking up a spot in the lineup that could be far better utilized by any of several other players.


Datsyuk: A+. Datsyuk performs as well as he is able: that is, at a level matched by exceedingly few professional hockey players anywhere. He is capable of feats unmatched by anyone, and never gives less than 100%. He is truly as a fine wine, growing only better with age.


Danny DeKeyser: A. Truly a gem, DeKeyser plays with poise and ability generally reserved for players with ten times his level of experience. He has demonstrated his ability to ably play top minutes in any situation, and this with only 22.5 games of NHL experience. DeKeyser is performing splendidly, and it’s entirely possible, perhaps probable, that he has not yet even sniffed his full potential.


Patrick Eaves: N/A. Patty is hopefully on his way to recovery, though it’s unclear if he’ll have a spot on the team whenever he does return.


Cory Emmerton: C-. Anything that Emmerton can do, Glendening can do better. Emmerton is simply mediocre at everything he does, and he does not work hard enough to compensate. Barring a string of injuries at center, Emmerton's days with the Red Wings are almost certainly over.


Jonathan Ericsson: A. Ericsson has grown from a mistake-prone, boneheaded youngster into a rock-solid shutdown defenseman. While it would be great if he’d learn to better use that giant slap shot of his, he certainly does his job well as it is.


Johan Franzen: C-. It’s plainly obvious at this stage that Franzen is held back from stardom only by his refusal to exert himself. His excellent performance in the game against the Avalanche is a microcosm of his very substantial talent and ability, both of which will continue to go unused so long as he continues to float. One can only hope that he will someday soon find reason to reform his attitude.


Luke Glendening: B. Glendening brings a lot of energy and speed to his game. Though he's a bit undersized, it's clear he's got a future as an effective NHL grinder ahead of him. Whether or not that will be in Detroit is as yet unclear.


Jonas Gustavsson: A. Monster let in a couple of stinkers during his three-game run, but he was excellent in sum. Though his troubles have always centered on consistency rather than talent, it’s nevertheless good to know that the team has a capable backup.


Darren Helm: N/A. As with Eaves, he’ll hopefully be able to play again soon. Unlike Eaves, he has a guaranteed spot when he returns. Hockey analysts rightly refer to Helm as a difference-maker.


Jimmy Howard: A. Howard has thus far been as rock-solid as he was last season, or perhaps even better. He hasn’t yet let in a single bad goal.


Jakub Kindl: B. Two seasons ago, Jakub’s future with the organization was very much in doubt. Not so anymore, as he has developed into a fine bottom-four defenseman and continues to improve. Hopefully he’ll find that offensive touch one day. In the meantime, he’ll remain a very viable and cost-effective option for the third pairing.


Niklas Kronwall: A. Few if any complaints can be made about Kronwall’s play thus far. He has performed quietly and ably as the team’s #1 defenseman, as befits his well-earned position as one of the mainstays of the team.


Brian Lashoff: B. Far from his often bungle-filled showings of last season, Lashoff has performed very ably thus far. He’s unlikely ever to contribute much offense, and he’s best kept away from top opposition, but he has been consistently making the correct plays in the defensive zone. At the very least, he’ll remain an affordable third-pairing option.


Drew Miller: C. While nobody expects Miller to be highly visible, he is rightly expected to be at least somewhat visible, and he has thus far been neither. Perhaps this can be blamed on his linemates---he has played very well in the past with the likes of Eaves and Helm, neither of whom are currently available---but better things were expected of him when he was awarded his new contract.


Xavier Ouellet: N/A. One game isn’t enough to form an opinion from, though his performance therein was very encouraging.


Kyle Quincey: B-. Yes, Quincey isn't flashy, and yes, he doesn’t produce offensively, and yes, he probably wasn’t worth the 1st that was given for him, and yes, he hasn’t done as well as anyone---management included, most likely---had hoped. However, this doesn’t mean that he’s a total loss, and he has stepped up quite nicely in the three games since Kronwall’s injury. Hopefully this will continue.


Mikael Samuelsson: D+. Just about nobody wanted Samuelsson to be on the team this season, management included, and for good reason: he just isn’t a worthwhile component. He did, amusingly, score the first goal of the season, but his very questionable utility has seen him in and out of the lineup since. He’s not the sort to make glaring errors, but he’s also not particularly good at anything.


Brendan Smith: C-. “Frustrating” is the best word to describe Smith’s performance so far. It is plainly apparent that he has a very substantial level of talent. It is just as obvious that he lacks entirely the poise to go with it. His best two games of the season have come when he was not paired with Quincey; whether or not the two of them simply bring out the flaws in each other, it’s clear that Smith has a lot of maturing to do.


Tomas Tatar: N/A. Like Smith, Tatar has got a lot of talent. Unlike Smith, he’s got the poise and confidence to go with it. Also unlike Smith, he’s not being given much of a chance. Hopefully this changes; he deserves a proper shot now, not later.


Jordin Tootoo: C+. Tootoo brings a lot of energy and verve to the ice, and lays out everything he’s got on every shift. Unfortunately for him, whether or not he’s the best use of a roster spot is open to question.


Stephen Weiss: C-. Weiss hasn’t been nearly good enough, plain and simple. He performs decently in the defensive end and on the penalty kill, but he has been generally invisible, and his speed and ability have been nowhere on display. This can be explained away somewhat by his unfamiliarity with the system, but he’s got to turn his play around soon if he’s to justify the very substantial investment made in him.


Henrik Zetterberg: A+. Truly a worthy successor to Yzerman and Lidstrom, Zetterberg brings it all every game.

#2446545 Lines Thread

Posted by Crymson on 20 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Alfredsson

Bertuzzi - Weiss - Franzen

Tatar - Helm - Abdelkader

Miller - Andersson - Cleary


There's no reason to break up the highly productive line; that second line worked well when it was tried; the third would be able to score; and the 4th would be quite good defensively.

#2442620 Devils sign Brunner 2 yrs. $2.5 million AAV

Posted by dat's sick on 08 October 2013 - 07:50 AM

Brunner just scored a nice goal. EPIC FAIL signing Alfy and letting Brunner go.

I wish we had signed Brunner, but that's a bit premature.. 79 games to go. Besides like mentioned we offered him a deal, and most likely if he had accepted Cleary would have been the odd man out not Alfie.