Looked more like the scrum after the hit was more dangerous to the guy on the ice than the hit itself. Was it a borderline hit? Sure. Is it worse than some of the BS teams have gotten away with against the Wings last playoffs? Not even close.
I know it's early, but I'm a liittle bored an super excited for next season. So I was wondering what everyone's predictions are on the production of our players for next season.
Pavel datsyuk: 23 goals, 52 assists About right
Henrik zetterberg: 32 goals, 40 assists About right
Justin abdelkader: 17 goals, 22 assists Too high on both goals and especially assists
Stephen Weiss: 21 goals, 43 assists Alittle over
Daniel alfredsson: 23 goals, 25 assists Alttle under
Johan franzen: 26 goals, 28 assists Assists high
Darren helm: 14 goals, 22 assists Unknown
Gustav nyquist: 18 goals, 25 assists Goals high assists low
Tomas Tatar: 16 goals, 23 assists Goals low assists high
Jokim Anderson: 11 goals, 15 assists Alittle over
Patrick eaves: 12 goals, 12 assists Over
Drew miller: 13 goals, 13 assists Over
Nik kronwall: 13 goals, 35 assists Seems right
Johnathan Ericsson: 6 goals, 10 assists Assists low
Brendan smith: 9 goals, 22 assists Hopeful but could happen
Kyle Quincey: 4 goals, 11 assists Low on assists
Jacob kindl: 11 goals, 27 assists High on both
Danny dekeyser: 3 goals, 12 assists Unknown, but hope so
This is what I consider are top 12 forwards and top 6 defenseman.
My numbers may be a little high I know but this is wishful thinking as I'm so excited for next season. As well this is barring no injuries which obviously isn't gonna happen
I would argue that he only played half the season with Datsyuk. And I'd argue that Z on the other wing instead of Cleary would make a HUGE difference.
Well if the playoffs are any indication, he's trash and should only be on the 4th line.
I think affording Abs a real chance on their wing will be able to determine his real value with them. Like Axe is saying, he didn't even really spend much time on Dats' wing, and Cleary was with them. He's got a better shot and foot speed than Homer did; he just really needs to work on his net-front positioning and balance. The guy's been used as a PK'er and checking line forward, it's kind of hard to just throw him into a new role and expect him to adapt right away. Give the guy some time before you write him off in that role.
I disagree about his shot, his hands aren't stone, but Homer had a very underrated wrist shot.
Facts are Facts. Discrediting them as flukes is a weak argument.
Fact: Cheechoo had 56 goals one season. One season proves nothing, especially when that season shows he was on pace to have 22 points over 82 games and was playing with one of the best players in the world.
This obsession with youth needs to stop. None of the signings benches youth. Tatar, Nyquist, and Andersson are all guarantees roster spots. Smith, DeKeyser, and Kindl are still there. We are not an old team. If anything, we were too young and inexperienced so we pick up two top 6 vets to balance things out.
Five or six second year and young players is more than enough for a roster.
What roster spots? Last time I checked when you have 16-17 forwards and 12 spots there are 4-5 people who aren't going to be playing. Now Andersson and Nyquist just so happen to have AHL options. I could easily see one or both of them being sent down especially if Cleary is resigned and Helm is healthy. And I understand having vets is good, but, in the NHL having too many vets is punished.