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#2455880 Respect Babcock and Holland

Posted by Shaman on 20 November 2013 - 08:08 PM

I think your stuck in the past when there wasn't a salary cap. Sorry buddy can't have all the best players in the world on your team anymore. Why Holland chose Franzen over Hossa is clear, salary.

Hossa stats 12-13
40gp and 31 points
Franzen stats 12-13
41gp 31 points

Hossa stats 11-12
81gp 71 points
Franzen stats 11-12
77gp 56 points

Hossa 2 season / 102 points
Frazen 2 season / 87 points

Hossa 5.275 million per season
Frazen 3.954 million per season

Franzen gets paid 74.9% of Hossa and produces at 85.3% compared to Hossa.

Frazen is a much better value than Hossa. Good choice by Holland in a salary cap world.


Ohh poor you we only won 3 Stanley Cups during this streak and made the playoffs more consecutive years than any team in the league. We better fire them because Wings fans want a Stanly Cup every single year for the rest of their lives. To bad you can't leave the Wings and root for another team because no other team in the league will satisfy you for more than a couple years in a row.

How many times have we been in the Eastern Conference Championship game? How many Stanley Cup appearances? Can you say mis managed teams, OMG we only rank number 1 in all the category's.

Oh your right man we have nothing in Grand Rapids we just won the Calder Cup led by our prospects... Yeah that means nothing. Landing the big name free agents you mentioned sure has been working great for Min hey??? Oh wait Min doesn't have the management and prospect pool we do to make those 2 star players worth jack chit.

I would love to see you guys endure having a crappy GM who would trade off our team tank and try to build a new team that's only sustainable for a few cup runs and tanks for years again and again.

Red Wings have down years, but our down years we still make the playoffs and still have a chance to compete in playoffs just like last year. We also have years where we are cup favorites. Man we got it so bad.

One problem skippy, those stats tell you nothing, take out outlier games by Franzen where he scored 4-5 goals in one game and then add in Hossa being in a different league defensively and Hossa is the better deal by a country mile.

#2453935 Patrick Eaves on Waivers

Posted by Shaman on 15 November 2013 - 04:23 PM

For people wanting to know our final cap situation and when Nyquist can come up.  Capgeek officially tweeted this:


With current roster maintained, we will have enough to call up Nyquist in mid-January (no sooner) OR have 2mil in total space at the deadline if he's not recalled.





Trade deadline day: "Nyquist is our trade deadline acquisition"

#2451256 Mantha signed to ELC

Posted by Shaman on 05 November 2013 - 07:24 PM



The reason I ask is because I believe the CHL/AHL transfer agreement is in bad need of revision because it causes situations like this. Mantha would be, in my mind, better served playing in the AHL where he can play against better talent and adjust to a game against adults with more of an NHL pace.

#2450630 Smith to IR, Almqvist called up

Posted by Shaman on 03 November 2013 - 05:31 PM

Is it wrong that I'm not sad at all?

I know its been a really long time since the Wings had a high end defensive prospect come up, but, very rarely do D-men start off being worth much... I believe Smith has to be considered a work in progress for at least another season before you can think he's worthless.

#2448820 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by Shaman on 30 October 2013 - 12:06 PM

I want P.K.Subaan on this team badly

A guy who makes Franzen look like Ovie? Not for almost 6 million a year.

#2447146 Ten Games in: Player Grades

Posted by Shaman on 23 October 2013 - 12:11 AM

Only argument, as I am sure you would have predicted, is that I think the grade for Abdelkader is a bit generous for a guy who is on pace for 23 points while playing with players on pace for 91 pts each. But I do agree with what you said, if he were on the 3rd line as an energy/depth scoring, he would be having a really good season.

#2443564 Mantha signed to ELC

Posted by Shaman on 12 October 2013 - 03:47 PM

The wings signed mantha to an ELC.


Can someone who has a better understanding of the rules please explain the implications of this signing? Can mantha stay in the Q?

Yes, unless he is called up to the Red Wings he has to stay in the Q. There is a transfer agreement between the CHL and the AHL  that stipulates a minimum age before they can transfer.

#2441254 Patrick Roy goes crazy on Bruce Boudreau

Posted by Shaman on 03 October 2013 - 01:48 AM

It would be a little less ironic if you spelled you're right.

#2440511 10/2 GDT : Sabres 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Shaman on 02 October 2013 - 11:48 AM

So the bottom 6 is a trainwreck.

#2440256 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Shaman on 01 October 2013 - 06:18 PM

I don't expect it will ever be Cleary vs Tatar. We probably differ in this view but Cleary can still contribute to this team in a way that makes him a viable top 9 option, so when Tatar does crack the lineup, it won't be to replace Cleary. Bertuzzi and Sammuelson on the other hand, haven't played for over a year (excluding the 8 minutes they were healthy last season). They are likely getting a courtesy shot in the first week or so to earn their contracts, but I expect Tatar will end up replacing one of the two of them in the lineup.

If Cleary starts on the third line I would argue then he is in fact occupying a roster spot that Tatar should be in. If Cleary were a fourth liner and shuffled in low scoring affairs to replace Abdelkader on the top line, meh, I could live with it. But if hes on Andersson's wing over Tatar, that's where I start having a huge problem.

#2440224 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Shaman on 01 October 2013 - 04:11 PM


Err... Fleischmann was traded for the league's top scorer, and the Matthias was sent away in a calculated gamble. The latter worked, because Bertuzzi did fairly well while Matthias turned into an average grinder. More, neither Fleischmann nor Matthias had yet played even a single game in the AHL, nor was either one was a blue-chip prospect, and so it's not like they were being considered for NHL duty at that time.


As such, I don't see the logic behind you bringing up those two.



He's one of the team's only gritty players, and one of only two who can and will screen the opposing goalie.


Given how Babcock used Samuelsson in preseason, and given the latter's performance in those games, I think he's one step away from the doghouse. His right-handed shot is all that's keeping him on the roster, but it seems he's woefully inept even on the power play now.


Yeah, when he's not injured, or being rubbed out of the play, he's got a little grit and screens the goalie. That'd be great if the team had a guy like Lidstrom/Rafalski/Shanahan/etc who was able to put it on net. This team has a lot of pass first guys, and since its cleary (a screening player) vs Tatar (a guy who likes to shoot more than anyone else on the team) I'd go with Tatar.

#2440142 Leafs re-sign Phil Kessel

Posted by Shaman on 01 October 2013 - 10:36 AM

Short of him being a non-French player making that cash in Montreal, I can't imagine a more high pressure contract. He will either be sanctified or crucified, this deal leaves no middle ground.

#2439590 Red Wings impact on fantasy hockey

Posted by Shaman on 28 September 2013 - 06:01 PM

I picked Cleary. Seriously

I was there, I saw it.

#2439575 Red Wings impact on fantasy hockey

Posted by Shaman on 28 September 2013 - 04:34 PM

A good rule of thumb is unless you're getting Crosby, Malkin and Letang, getting more than 2 player on your team from the same club is a bad idea. I have seen some people get 3-4 players from the same team, they do great in the week, but, only play two games, and get beaten by quantity in their weekly match up.


PS I have one Wing on my team, Ericsson, as a bench D-man because I think he will be a good plug for when Keith/Suter/Hedman/Martin/Bogosian aren't playing

#2438271 Burke Wins Default Judgment Against Internet Defamers

Posted by Shaman on 22 September 2013 - 01:31 PM

So Burke sued the whole Internet?