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#2507080 Lightning sign GM Yzerman to contract extension

Posted by Shaman on 07 April 2014 - 10:15 PM


Successfully help build your organization to the very pinnacle of your industry and then keep it there for 22 years and you might.

He's only been GM for the last 15 years or so, not the last 22.

#2501696 Net off the moorings question

Posted by Shaman on 26 March 2014 - 11:43 PM

Cracking me up, all the articles out there, explaining and explaining how it was a good goal.  Um.  No.  But perhaps if you explain it some more, and justify and use more words, the majority of hockey fans will believe it. 


OK, then.

It comes down to something as simple as this:


Within the bounds of the rules it was a goal. Therefore, it was a goal. We hate it now, but, if the situation was reversed we would be lauding the ref for making a fine call. This isn't 2002 when the refs were making phantom calls about the exact position of Homer's ass in time and space, this is the right call technically speaking. Now, I hate it, I wish the ref was blind and called it a no goal.

#2495099 2 points tonight is a must!

Posted by Shaman on 14 March 2014 - 11:56 AM

Every game is must win. The Wings are already behind the 8 ball, and they only put themselves further behind every point they miss.

#2494649 3/11 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by Shaman on 11 March 2014 - 08:44 PM

The lack of faith and support for our team in this forum is just insane.  Just shows how spoiled we really are.  The Wings have made the playoffs for as long as I have been a fan, and if they miss out this year, then I am not bailing on them.  I fail to see why some here are willing to give up, bash the team, and insult the management.  Support your team, through thick and thin.  Its what supporting a team is all about. 


As for the game tonight, the Blue Jackets should be commended.  They came through with a win when they needed it.


As for the Wings, they have 18 more games to fight their way into the post season.


This team is a product. When you're not happy with a product you don't just suck it up and support it anyway. If you bought an iPhone and it gave you hemorrhoids you don't just say 'oh well, you have to be a fan of Apple and support the product good or bad".

#2494157 Andersson breaks foot - down another center

Posted by Shaman on 10 March 2014 - 09:02 PM

Injured: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Weiss, Helm, Andersson.


Not Injured: Sheahan, Glendening...Emmerton.


We should get Sheahan and Glendening into a witness protection program or something.

Oh God, what if Legwand gets injured?


#2494153 If Kronwall isn't a #1

Posted by Shaman on 10 March 2014 - 08:44 PM

I think some of you are overrating other defensenen. Kronwall is absolutely in the top 10. Maybe top 5.

Weber is clearly the best in the league, but after him everyone else has glaring weaknesses.Kronwall is an offensive defenseman who plays a solid defensive game.


I don't know whether to laugh or vomit. 


This is so clearly a homer goggles statement I hesitated even responding to it.


Let me start with what I came here to post:

All number one d-men are not created equal. There are #1A defensemen, those who on most teams would be a #1 over even whomever they have as their current #1. These would be your top 10 defensemen in the league. Kronwall is not in this category. They play big minutes, they shut down elite opponents and they put up a lot of points. These are your usual suspects when Norris conversations come up.


Then there are #1B, they are guys who are capable of playing big minutes, or scoring a lot of points. But they don't have all the tools to be elite, but they are good enough. This is where Kronwall falls. He has a good tool box, but none of his tools are good enough to make him stand out head and shoulders. He's good offensively, but not elite. He's able to play the big minutes, but, he also has brainfarts. And to be honest, if Crosby or Malkin is on the ice I'd personally wouldn't be comforted to see Kronwall on the ice sans Datsyuk or Zetterberg. 


I personally think Kronwall would benefit with a better partner, another #1B defenseman, where he wouldn't be expected to be everything all the time. 


Now to what VM said: I would take Chara, Keith, Suter, Weber, OEL, and Doughty over Kronwall right now without a second thought. I would take Karlsson, Yandle, Elder, Bouwmeester and Pietrangelo in most situations over Kronwall 9 times out of 10.That right there is enough to make the statement he is top ten pretty laughable. He's good, he's just nowhere near top 10. Top 15 would still put him in very good company, and you would have a legitimate argument for it, but hyperbole serves no one.

#2492492 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 07 March 2014 - 05:08 PM



Every time people complain about Holland, I want to point out things like this, and the fact that Snow essentially traded a 1st, 2nd, and conditional 5th for Collberg and a conditional 2nd.


Okay and? Just because there are people less competent at their job than Holland has been in the last few years doesn't mean that Holland gets a pass.

#2491766 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 06 March 2014 - 04:23 PM


Quick! Someone call Mr. I. We've found the Red Wings next GM. Let Illitch know that frankgrimes is willing to throw away a 22-year playoff streak to move up 5-7 places in the draft. #winning


Pure speculation. You have no way of knowing that. Keep posting baseless accusations and emotional tantrums, though. Good stuff! By the way, you're still here 24 hours after you said you were off to find a new team. Just a friendly reminder.


My favorite one is that the Holland apologist act as though this pick magically keeps the playoff streak alive. If they don't make the playoffs is this still a good move in your opinion?

#2491537 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 06 March 2014 - 12:24 AM

I hope y'all can  get to like david legwand as much as the preds fans have for 15 seasons,Treat him well,after all he was our  first ever predator player.



Will be cheering for him as a red wing

Please take him back... please? Please? 

#2491339 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 05 March 2014 - 08:25 PM

While I'm not really impressed with this trade - I dunno if I'd call it a fleecing...


I think we'll have to see how the respective players involved before we can form a lynching mob :lol:


LGW right now:




Not really sure you want a part of this.

#2491326 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 05 March 2014 - 08:17 PM

So what if the rival GM doesn't want that offer?


Then what?

You still don't let Nashville fleece you for an aging center that is redundant around this time next month. 

#2491290 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 05 March 2014 - 07:53 PM

There's definitely half a pint of beer in the pint glass: wether it's half full or half empty is up to you.

I'm going with half full. A playoff season missed does not help Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Andy, Weiss , Jurco, and Smith gain valuable playoff experience. Legwand helps us get by until the Calvary returns, then once the playoffs begin, as we saw last year, all bets are off. If healthy, we've actually got a damn good lineup.

Somehow, with no top 20 picks since 1991, our prospects managed to win the Calder Cup and produce the Butterfield winner . Jarnkrok is no Pulkkinen, and it's not like we don't have guys in the pipeline ahead and behind him.


Again if mediocrity is okay with you, fine. For me I look at this team and ask two questions:


Can this team seriously compete for a Stanley Cup? If yes great. If not then I ask:


Has the team increased it's ability to compete for one in the future.


This trade doesn't make this team a serious cup contender, and it has hurt the team long term.

#2491250 Ken Holland's Moves From 2009-2014

Posted by Shaman on 05 March 2014 - 07:20 PM

id like to know what hollad plans this offseason. the UFA defensemen arent impressive 


#2491243 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 05 March 2014 - 07:12 PM


He also said that when Datsyuk was day to day and Helm was not injured.


If Weiss cannot allow us to play D and Z together, Legwand will while providing us with good defense and offense.

Again, what does he gain by doing this?


Short term: The Wings are in a marginally better position to lock up the 8th seed. And again as I keep saying, get bounced by one of the top seeds.


Long term: The prospect pool is weaker by a factor of 2. First they lose a top prospect, and second they lose a chance at the highest draft pick since Marty Lapointe. 


Seems like a bad deal no matter how you spin it.

#2491226 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Shaman on 05 March 2014 - 07:00 PM

Coming next season: The Wings trade Mantha for Hudler.