Posted by Shaman464
on 02 September 2010 - 10:29 AM
Anyone STILL want to argue that the Sharks are the epitome of perennial playoff failures?
It was Howard's first postseason experience. I wouldn't be so quick to throw him under the bus.
Wait... I dont understand... youre not supposed to throw a player under the bus the second they don't play like an all star their first year? BLASPHEMY! We should burn you at the stake for such utterances.
In all seriousness... Nemi will be a better value at 2 then Nabokov at 5 or whatever he wanted, Nabby was a great goalie, but, he was a little too late to cash in on that as the league is moving away from the Vancouver model (high priced goalie) to the Detroit model (value goalie with better defensive play).
He needed to perform last year, and the year before that. I'm pretty annoyed at players that play balls to the wall during their contract year. It gives the impression that they were half-assing it in previous years. I mean I understand that players want to make the most $$ they can. But if you're a professional athlete, getting paid to do your job, you should be playing balls to the wall every night, every season.
That being said, I definitely hope big E kicks it into another gear this season. Even if it's financially motivated, I'll be happy to see the Wings give him a pay raise if he steps it up and plays like a beast. Although it still annoys me that this magical new "gear" didn't exist until potential big $$ comes into the picture.
The year before he performed quite well, though in a limited role on a stacked team. And what can you say about last year? He played with Brett 'hey guess what im gunna pinch in at the stupidest times' Lebda, he needed to be playing with someone who was more of a veteran presence to keep his game more in line and to cover for any mistakes. Rookies make mistakes, every last one of them, its the guys around him and the coaching staff that make or break a kid with this kind of potential.
So your response is basically "But But But Nuh-uh!" The fact remains that fighting players like DMac and LaPointe, who are very similar to Asham, were present on Cup winning teams when it mattered most and not as some sideshow entertainment for the MMA fans. Neither of those players were brought in for their "scoring", yet their contributions, scoring and otherwise, were very important in the overall result. But since they drop the gloves, which you despise, they ain't worth s*** apparently compared to a 40 year old player who may or may not put up points like he used to.
First you built a beautiful strawman, but, as I even put in my sig, I love fights, its the whole enforcer playing style that I feel is an outdated role in the NHL. As for them being present on the cup winning teams, so were Boyd Devereaux and Mathieu Dandenault... they were very present on those teams. Not every role player is the key to a cup winning team, and while I will relent the point of the March 26 game being the one that brought the team together. But to compare DMac and Lapointe to Asham is laughable, both Lapointe and DMac were better scorers in the dead puck era, and Lapointe was clutch in the playoffs. Asham is a career fourth liner, and is pretty poor defensively. He rarely played on the PK (which would make him less valuable than Miller or Eaves), never scored that many points (averages 20 points a season, so, again no upgrade over eaves or miller), and with the amount of time he spends in the box he would hinder the wings ability to roll four balanced lines. Can you actually tell me what he adds that NO ONE on the team has other than the willingness (not the ability) to drop the gloves?
And there it is. It's just that simple folks, fill our team with nothing but scorers and the Cup is ours!
Hey, remember that one time that one fight over came a 2 goal lead because that one guy just thoroughly kicked the other guys ass? I don't either.
In a game that is WON by having MORE goals than the other team. A fight is a spectacle, any gains or losses in momentum that it causes is purely intangible, where as addition of scoring depth is a tangible addition, that in the end of the game, can be measured, and does have direct impact on the end results of the game.
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
Your mother is lazy and she sucks.
If you can't tell this is a jab at the whole 'you are internet kid i kick your ass trolling' that has no place in this thread, by me cleverly using a LGW meme.
As for Asham, I don't see how what he adds is so prolific it would be better than what would be lost. Hitting/fight ≠ scoring. Sorry, but at the end of the night its about who scored more goals, not who won more fights or had more big hits.