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#2345456 Call up the kids now

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 23 January 2013 - 01:16 PM

Sure we don't have the 1st overall type players garbage franchises like Edmonton have (don't doubt that Edmonton's been absolute trash for a decade) but not many teams do.


If Ken Holland doesn't think he can make a trade or signing to keep the Wings in the thick of the hunt for the Cup he won't make the move.  The time for short-term extensions of the team's quality ended when Lidstrom retired.


It's interesting that people haven't seemed to notice that Holland's accelerated the pace of his 'overripe' prospect pipeline.  Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco and Mrazek all joined the AHL as early as possible (you're not allowed to put players in the AHL before their overage Jr season).  Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok and Backman can all make the transition to the AHL next season and are expected to. 

The lockout screwed us out of being able to properly evaluate prospects vs veterans this year so Holland appears to have played it as safe as possible.  It remains to be seen whether he'll start transitioning kids into the line-up above and beyond the injury replacements but I suspect that depends on whether the Wings look like they can make a real push by the time that situation arises.


People can assume Ken Holland's retarded all they want but this is the first time he's gotten a real license to rebuild (with Lidstrom on the team you have to keep taking runs at the Cup) and it's only 3 games into a lockout shortened season.

#2340522 Half Season Predictions 2013

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 16 January 2013 - 08:34 AM

Central division: 

1. Red Wings

2. Blues

3. Blackhawks

4. Predators

5. Blue Jackets


 - Wings finish 3rd in the Western conference.

 - Brunner scores close to 20 goals

 - Kronwall picks up his game and solidifies himself as the new number one d-man.

 - Howard plays more games, than Gustavsson, but the Monster has better numbers.

 - Datsyuk finishes in the top 5 in scoring.

 - Nyquist finishes the season on one of the scoring lines.

 - Franzen will be a $3.9 mil cap hit, score around 30 goals, and people will complain.


 - Crosby wins the Art Ross.

 - Ovechkin wins the Hart and Rocket Richard

 - Tuuka Rask wins the Vezina

 - Shea Weber wins the Norris.

 - Parise scores less than 30 goals.

 - Suter finishes the season as a minus player

 - Rick Nash does only slightly better than he did in Columbus.

 - Anaheim makes the playoffs and Selanne's final run for a championship is an exciting one.

 - Rangers, Flyers, Wild, Hurricanes, and Kings underachieve.

 - Stars, Canadiens, Oilers and Ducks overachieve.

 - The Kings start off slow, but finish strong to barely make the playoffs.

 - Penguins and Canucks are top seeds in their respective conference.


I don't understand why people are ranking the Wings so low, just because of Lidstrom.  I mean, I know he's great and all, but he's not the whole team.  There are plenty of teams that won the Stanley Cup without Nick Lidstrom in their line up, we can too.  We have more depth and speed up front.  While other teams are cramming in as much training camp as they can before the season, Datsyuk is already in midseason form and Zetterberg and Brunner have been playing together, developing chemistry for the past few months over in Switzerland.  IMO, Kronwall can be the next Scott Stevens.  That hard hitting, stay-at-home defensive style with a big shot from the point every now and then.  Colaiacovo is a very solid pick up for us.  I think he's an improvement over Stuart.  Plus, we have Brendan Smith, who is really motivated and excited to be playing in the NHL this year.  People complain so often during the season that the Wings looked lazy or "unmotivated" out there.  We have plenty of new blood in our lineup that should change that perception.


I think the pessimists and the critics who have been predicting the Wings downfall for over a decade now are going to be surprised/disappointed.

#2337785 Canadian hockey fans - they mad!

Posted by Guest on 06 January 2013 - 01:52 AM

You can't expect to win medals in this tournament if you make big mistakes like cutting your best d-man

#2332246 Z first game in Swiss league

Posted by Azelov on 19 October 2012 - 01:01 PM

First minute of the game, first goal for Zetterberg, assisted by Brunner. With Omark on the same line, they are flying!

#2321399 Rick Nash traded to the New York Rangers

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 24 July 2012 - 06:29 AM

The return Columbus got back isn't that horrible. Dubinsky definitely has the tools to score 50 points per year consistently. Won't be a superstar, but I've always liked him. I think he needed a change of scenery. Not sure if Columbus will help, but I guess we'll find out. What does Columbus look like now as far as their potential lineup goes?



Steve Mason
Sergei Bobrovsky

"For me, knowing Detroit’s history they don’t really pay the market value for a defenseman or any player"
- James Wisniewski on NHL Live

Enjoy your fair market value contract on that AHL team you're on.

#2318264 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by mmamolo on 11 July 2012 - 01:04 PM

Im not sure who looks stupider, Tootoo with the Tee-Cup or the Pink pants dude

#2309409 Top Swiss-leaguer Brunner to sign with Wings, Babcock has big plans

Posted by Matt on 23 June 2012 - 11:26 PM

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#2308736 Zach Parise

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 22 June 2012 - 11:45 AM

...which is exactly why i did not reply to him. he tells me to go back to NHL13 and completely misses the valid point i made in which the Wings have won the most cups in the last 22 years. I hope Granlund goes to the KHL and Coyle requests a trade. Or i guess the Wild's prospects futures are pretty certain.

The Wild are the hottest thing in the league right now. If Edmonton is teaching us anything right now it's that having a handful of elite young prospects will turn your franchise right around!

#2308734 Zach Parise

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 22 June 2012 - 11:40 AM



Anything else YOU want to make up? Good morning, good afternoon and good night.

How's the reading bro? You're replying to someone who mentions how not re-signing Holmstrom will impact the average age of the Wings roster and using the 11-12 roster with Stuart, Holmstrom and Lidstrom to make your argument... as if any of those three would be part of the average age Flashy's talking about.

#2308600 Zach Parise

Posted by Autika on 21 June 2012 - 11:45 PM

Go back to NHL 13 then. This is real life. You don't just "retool" and "reload" like it's nothing in real life. You think Detroit management ever thought Datsyuk and Zetterberg would end up being the stars they are? You're fooling yourself if you think the answer is yes. Without any stars waiting to crack the NHL roster you can be assured that the future in Detroit is VERY uncertain.

I tire of trying to reason with you. You say that a team's history doesn't matter, fine, we'll leave history out of it. We give you examples of the current success of our team next to the lack luster performance of the wild, and that doesn't matter because we're old. Then the wild's prospects are so much better than the Red Wings and because the Wild's prospects are so ready for the NHL and are future super stars while ours just plain suck. Your entire argument is just one slippery slope fallacy after another. The past isn't giving you the answer you want, and the present certainly didn't give you what you were looking for, so now the future is very uncertain in Detroit? the future is uncertain everywhere. sure, Parise might go to the Wild, or he might go to Detroit, He might even sign in the KHL for eleventy billion dollars. The future success of the Wild is just as uncertain as the downfall of the Red Wings. So you can keep having this, "me against the internet" thing you've got going on, or you can just have a regular conversation with the rest of us.

#2308564 Pavel and his girlfriend at the NHL Awards

Posted by hooon on 21 June 2012 - 07:57 PM

I feel like I walked in on some awkward moment.

Backing away quietly...

#2307025 Nashville to trade Suter's rights?

Posted by Matt on 12 June 2012 - 08:37 PM

I don't think it really matters where he's traded to in the event he is prior to July 1. He can still switch hands prior to July 1 if the team he's initially traded to doesn't sign him. Personally, I think he'd be dumb to not wait until July 1st if he gets traded to another club besides Detroit. The money, term, minutes, organization and track record lines up perfectly with everything that Suter has either hinted to in the press (in terms of market, commitment to winning) or through media sources. There are plenty of indirect ways to drop Suter hints about an offer coming his way without violating any bylaws.

#2307055 Zach Parise

Posted by centcougar07 on 13 June 2012 - 01:59 AM

Why don't you describe what is going on in the opening post instead of saying "Hey, here is a link, click it and take my word for what is on it"?

25 minute mark has talking about LA rioting (or lack therof) after their cup win. Nothing about Zach Parise.

27 minute mark talking about crowds and random crap. Head coach for LA going to stay? Who knows in this radio broadcast.

28 Phil Jackson talk. Radio host says "Let's leave Parise aside for the time being". So 3 minutes after you say we should start listening they discuss Parise only to say that they aren't going to talk about it yet? Jeez, man.

30 minutes in: Leopold says nobody is going to outbid the Wild. So if Parise is going anywhere, it is for less money. The guy just assumes that Parise isn't going to be here simply because the Wild's GM is going to throw as much money as he can at him. Implying Holland can't afford to do that as well.

Not bad news, just more of what we assumed would happen.

Parise talk starts at about 28 but I was trying to give some perspective on the conversation by having people listen to a couple minutes of other hockey talk. I think it's bad news because here we have an expert with an in on the whole situation saying he would be shocked if he didn't end up with the Wild. The conversation also goes on at the 35:45 mark as well.

#2307053 Zach Parise

Posted by centcougar07 on 13 June 2012 - 01:34 AM

Saw this on twitter via one of my followers. My link

Lou Nanne is reporting on a conversation he had with Minnesota Wild owner Craig Leipold regarding Zach Parise. Skip to about the 22 minute mark of the podcast to hear the important parts.

If this is true, it could be bad news for Red Wings fans.

EDIT: Skip to the 25 minute mark.

#2305758 Why Evander Kane is Worth the Price

Posted by Wings_Dynasty on 07 June 2012 - 07:24 AM

This is why he would be worth it to me.

EDIT: Not that I would take him over Parise. I was thinking in addition to Parise.