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#2638279 New NHL all-star game format

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 November 2015 - 07:56 PM

Ya god forbid they have fun at an event that's supposed to be fun for the players and fans. Shame on bettman *sigh*


Ya I'm sure playing 20 minutes of three on three in a meaningless game, while other players can enjoy the time-off with their families is a lot of fun.

#2638209 Who and What are the Detroit Red Wings?

Posted by sjr2012 on 19 November 2015 - 11:05 AM

I dont see it this way at all. I like our defense and goalie. We are allowing very few goals. I think we need better forwards. One more Larkin, and this team is seriously legit.

agree the problem is the scoring we need legit guys who can hit the net on a nightly baises not behind the net or off the boards bury it thats what we lack right now goaltending is great and d is alright 

#2638205 Who and What are the Detroit Red Wings?

Posted by Bill Berzeench on 19 November 2015 - 10:33 AM

I dont see it this way at all. I like our defense and goalie. We are allowing very few goals. I think we need better forwards. One more Larkin, and this team is seriously legit.

#2637290 Jeff Blashill = Dave Lewis 2.0 / Coaching Change

Posted by kipwinger on 16 November 2015 - 11:02 AM

To tell you the truth, I think I'd rather this team struggle to begin the season and finish strong down the stretch. 


Last year the Capitals struggled badly during the first part of the season after Trotz came on board.  Everybody expected immediate improvement considering Trotz is one of the better coaches in the league but presumably  learning a new coach's systems and adjusting to massive personnel turnover took some time.  However, once everything clicked they finished strong and were one of the hottest teams heading into the playoffs. 


We'll find our stride. 

#2637204 11/14 GDT : Red Wings at Boston Bruins, 7:00 EST

Posted by Fonzarelli on 15 November 2015 - 08:35 AM

Babcock couldn't get this team to play either. Blash is obviously not close to Babcock's ability as a coach. This team unmotivated. I do say some of this has to do with coaching. Blash is not ready.

#2635372 All purpose Mike Babcock thread

Posted by amato on 06 November 2015 - 11:09 AM

Yah, but do you hire one of the top mechanics in the world to fix a broken down Mustang? Your analogy is getting at my point. Babcock was hired to WIN - that's what 6 mil a year and the highest paid coach in the league by double means. Not admit that he's going to lose indefinitely. Its an i year contract. How much time? 5 years? Like the Oilers? 4 years? Like the Panthers? How much time can Mike Babcock SUCK before people expect him to win? I think he took the easy way out with his "it's going to take time" b.s. Look at what Jim Harbough did. He came in and reestablished winning IMMEDIATELY. There's a coach, for you. Babcock has only shown that he can succeed with ALL-STAR teams. I'm not impressed by that. Sorry.

Right on. I just wanted to see how many coaches were in your pool to choose from. I only have yzerman era wings and on.

Babcock wasn't hired with the expectation that they'd win now.. he was hired to turn their franchise around. That's going to take time with how awful they've been. He was just being realistic, not taking the easy way out imo.

Also, I'm pretty sure Harbaugh was saying similar "it's going to take time" things in his first pressers. He's certainly exceeded expectations.

#2635307 All purpose Mike Babcock thread

Posted by joesuffP on 05 November 2015 - 07:09 PM

I think Babs proved himself "among" the best in the world, when he willed our injury riddled team to the playoffs. Other years we made the playoffs another coach may not have been able to either but that year especially. We had no business getting in with all those rookies

#2635293 All purpose Mike Babcock thread

Posted by Buppy on 05 November 2015 - 03:50 PM

Its absolutely less asinine because it happens to be supported by the fact that Quenneville has more wins, and more championships than any other active coach. All opinions are not equally valid. You seem to be saying that any two opinions are, in effect, equally legitimate because they are both opinions. Which is absurd. If I said Sidney Crosby was the leagues best player, and you thought it was Steven Stamkos, your opinion would be less legitimate based on the fact that a number of facts seem to suggest otherwise.

Any opinion is only as valid as the support for it. And the profundity of evidence in this case suggests that mike Babcock isn't the leagues best coach.

The profundity of one specific, mostly arbitrary, criterion you mean. Q has more wins because he's coached 18 years to only 12 for Babs. They both have similar winning %s. Even given the wins, it's still only two criteria. I think coaching is a bit more complex than that, and it takes more than two numbers to make a valid comparison.


And no, I'm not arguing that ALL opinions are equal. I'm saying these two specific opinions are. (Granted, that in itself is only my opinion.) Don't strawman and don't misuse analogies. Even if you think they aren't exactly equal, you say yourself that you believe Babcock is one of the best. So why is it so absurd that someone might think he's better than Q that you're so offended by the suggestion?

#2635128 All purpose Mike Babcock thread

Posted by rick zombo on 04 November 2015 - 10:45 AM

Babcock love = Canadian slappies slapping their slap.


(I'm canadian)

#2634252 10/30 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Fonzarelli on 30 October 2015 - 09:30 PM

I oils like to call this a slump but it is not. This is a team that is outworked. They appear to be lost. Their passes don't connect very often. Do they even know who they're trying to pass to? In scrambles in front of the net, there is not one defenceman who can take out a player. However, in the corner, they knock a player down for a penalty.

#2633808 Jeff Blashill = Dave Lewis 2.0 / Coaching Change

Posted by joesuffP on 28 October 2015 - 03:21 PM

Holland and co won't accept missing the playoffs simple as that. This is a playoff team. If we continue to nose dive and keep losing in the same kind of fashion something will change here. The record doesn't bother me as much as the way we are losing. We look like the worst team in the league

#2565574 Franzen on IR

Posted by gcom007 on 22 January 2015 - 02:44 PM

I genuinely forget that he's on the team whether he's playing or not half the time. It's kinda sad. Have they said anything about this injury other than "upper body injury"?

#2544938 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by gcom007 on 29 October 2014 - 02:27 AM

Does anyone really think they'd send Babcock packing for Blashill so long as Babcock wants to be here?


If you have the best coach in the game wanting to be your coach long-term, you're not playing games with him because you don't want to lose your minor league coach, and you're not running around making promises to your minor league coach about taking over the big job. 


I get that we like Blashill. I get that all parties involved have every reason to be happy with what he's done. I am not trying to criticize or minimize the guy at all. He probably deserves to be an NHL coach at this point, and likely will be soon one way or another.


But we're talking about Mike Babcock here.


Mike Babcock.


Like the guy or not, I don't think there's any question that he's the best coach in the NHL right now, and by that measure, it's pretty safe to say that he's the top coach in the game of hockey.


Mike Babcock will be with the Red Wings for as long as he wants to be with the Red Wings, it's as simple as that. Anyone who really thinks otherwise hasn't really thought through the fundamentals of the situation enough.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think any other coach would have won back to back golds or been able to get Crosby to play defensive hockey. He is a great coach I just think he's got to move on. I wasn't trying to downplay anything just saying his team's were stacked, it wasn't like he pulled a miracle out of his ass


Why? Well, better put, why would the Red Wings think that? I could understand and come up with plenty of reasons why Babcock might want to move on at some point, for him, but I can't think of a single reason why the Red Wings would have any interest in having him move on at any point in the near future.


And for f***'s sake, the Red Wings didn't get rid of Holland after 4-5 years of s***ty off-seasons, why in the hell would they, especially the freshly signed Holland, want to ditch the guy who coached teams into the playoffs the last two years that really kinda maybe shouldn't have been playoff teams? I cannot say it enough, the idea that the Wings would want to move on from Babcock in light of what he's accomplished, his status as a/the top coach, and what he's done with our kids the last couple years makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

#2544920 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by rick zombo on 28 October 2014 - 10:02 PM

Mantha getting closer.........to being a year away from playing in Detroit. 


Right now I have to believe Pulu is higher on the depth chart.


He’ll run out of waiver options sooner than Mantha + he’s actually scoring in GRs, so for sure he is.

#2544813 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by VM1138 on 28 October 2014 - 12:53 PM

Playoffs for the Wings last year was a miracle.  2003 was a miracle.  And no other team, stacked or not, has made back to back Cup appearances recently except Pittsburgh.