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#1991742 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by Yzermania19 on 31 May 2010 - 11:37 AM

We didn't exactly "suck" last season. The first half was rough because at one point we had half of our regular lineup out with injuries, and didn't have Franzen, who was on fire, unitl February, as someone pointed out. The Wings had one of the best records in the league after the Olympic break, and surpise! They had everyone back by then!

Yes, we lost in the second round but all but one of those games were by one goal, and I still maintain the craptastic officiating had something to do with the losses (not blaming the refs, just saying that they were a factor - the Wings definitely didn't play up to par at times against the Sharks).

If we didn't have all those injuries during the first half of the season, and if we didn't have to play so dang hard to make up ground just to get to the playoffs, I think we'd be in the Cup Final instead of Chicago. I really do. The Wings could beat either of the teams in the Final.

Lidstrom showed this season that he is slowing down, but just a bit. He is still the best defenceman in the NHL and it's my opinion that if they want to contend for the Cup next year, the Wings need Lids back.


#1991460 Cap could go up by 2 million

Posted by jeff48109 on 30 May 2010 - 12:31 PM

Its not that i think Lids will be willing to take less than 5 million; I just think Holland will not offer him anything less than that, out of respect for him.


#1991445 Cap could go up by 2 million

Posted by Reds4Life on 30 May 2010 - 11:06 AM

Not going to lie if Lids take 6mill or more knowing the Wings are tight against the cap im going to lose a little respect for the guy, and it will show why YZERMAN is the one and only TRUE captain of the Wings.


Yes, because Yzerman did not make A LOT of money when he was a 3rd liner at best. :rolleyes:
But since there was no cap, it was no problem of course (except for maybe Illitch :D). Lidstrom can easily command 6 or more million, it would still be a fair price. I think NHL PA would step in if he wanted to take 2 or so million a year.


#1991654 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by chrisdetroit on 31 May 2010 - 07:19 AM

if it's more than $4.5 million this team is fudged. If I know how Holland works (and we've already established that :lol: ) He will give Lidstrom $7M, both Bertuzzi and Holmstrom $3M erasing our entire cap space...

Lids $4.5

Bertuzzi & Holmstrom $1.5 each...

Nothing more, this team needs to get better via Free Agency, NOT waste all the cap space on the same team that sucked last season. Oh wait, we got Hudler back :puke: What a waste of $2.8M that is! Little focker couldn't even make his National team for his homeland in the Olympics, WTF is he gonna do here? NOTHING! TRADE HIM!



Uh. We got Franzen back too. Did you forget that he was gone from the 3rd game until the middle of February. Franzen is a 40 goal scorer and Huds is a 20 goal scorer. That's 60 goals. They didn't suck from mid February to the endd of the season.


#1991636 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by MCleveland89 on 31 May 2010 - 02:19 AM

If Lidstrom wants 7.4 million, he'll get it. BUT we all know that this team won't be winning the Cup until he retires. Lidstrom deserves every cent, but if he takes 7.4 million, the team will look nearly exactly the same as last year. And the Wings in the play-offs didn't do well with this exact team. Hudler will not make a dramatic difference especially at almost 3 million.

If Lidstrom wants to win another Cup, he'll take 4.5. If he wants a pay-day, 7.4. He'll get it, he's made a lot of money already, why not take less?


That's pretty much how I feel about it. He doesn't need to work another day in his life and he'll be fine money-wise. I love Lidstrom and want him back. Would I like for him to take a paycut to bring some other guys in? Sure. Is he worth every cent he's making now? Absolutely. I'll take him at $7.4. I'll take him at $1. It doesn't matter.


#1991622 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by Casey on 31 May 2010 - 12:48 AM

if it's more than $4.5 million this team is fudged. If I know how Holland works (and we've already established that :lol: ) He will give Lidstrom $7M, both Bertuzzi and Holmstrom $3M erasing our entire cap space...

Lids $4.5

Bertuzzi & Holmstrom $1.5 each...

Nothing more, this team needs to get better via Free Agency, NOT waste all the cap space on the same team that sucked last season. Oh wait, we got Hudler back :puke: What a waste of $2.8M that is! Little focker couldn't even make his National team for his homeland in the Olympics, WTF is he gonna do here? NOTHING! TRADE HIM!


This team sucked?

SUCKED?

Let's review.

Starting a true rookie goaltender who pulls off a record of 37-15-10, with GAA of 2.26, 0.924 save percentage.
Over 300 games lost due to injury, including Franzen, Zetterberg and Filppula getting long stretches out.
Despite losing a massive amount of scoring to free agency and injuries, they still made the playoffs and won round 1.

There's 22 teams in the league who would kill for that shot at the second round. 14 would have loved a shot at the first.

Room for improvement, sure. Sucked? Not a chance in hell.


#1991555 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by SouthernWingsFan on 30 May 2010 - 07:44 PM

funny how most of us agree, but I am still getting negatives on my original post. Oh well, must have been the Hurdler comments. Listen, just cause he wears the winged wheel doesn't mean I have to like him, you will all need a scapegoat next year and Happy is gonna be the guy, just watch. he'll make his awesome defensive plays every game next season and you will all wonder no longer why he couldn't even make the National Team...

You don't have to like him, but this thread has nothing to do with Jiri Hudler but your obsessive disliking of him somehow makes it a subject when there is no need for it to be a subject. Your soapbox rants about Hudler aren't necessary. That, along with your perception that Lidstrom should all of a sudden take an absurd paycut just for the better of the team is absurd or is a greedy idiot to possibly not do so or thinking he should retire is getting you negative posts.

Life may go on after Lidstrom, but this team is a lot better with him, and I don't want to see him retire. I can understand taking a small paycut here/there, but I'm sorry, some of you thinking he should retire and kicking him rear end to the curb if he doesn't just sacrifice millions are out of your mind.


#1991532 Is Datsyuk "Superhuman"?

Posted by Puckpossession on 30 May 2010 - 06:07 PM

datsyuk had a bad season just to see how it feels like


#1991534 Newly Signed Brendan Smith Charged With Disorderly Conduct

Posted by seeinred on 30 May 2010 - 06:12 PM

College students drink a lot. Drinking a lot sometimes leads to problems like this. Most people grow out of it. I'm not too concerned just yet.


#1991538 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by Broken 16 on 30 May 2010 - 06:27 PM

Lidstrom is still easily a top 5 defenseman in the league, and you expect him to take a $3 million paycut?

You guys kill me sometimes. For the good of the team he should play another grueling season for millions less than his market value? :blink:

If he signs for anything under 6 mill, he would officially be Saint Nick in Detroit.



I'd rather he just retire unless he signs for 5 mil. Seriously. The guy is great but I really don't want to watch another year with the same team+Hudler-Williams... with Lidstrom a year older. He's looking human now, what's he gonna look like by the end of next season?

I'll be pissed if he makes 6+. And I will lose a little respect for him.


#1991499 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 May 2010 - 04:05 PM

if it's more than $4.5 million this team is fudged. If I know how Holland works (and we've already established that :lol: ) He will give Lidstrom $7M, both Bertuzzi and Holmstrom $3M erasing our entire cap space...

Lids $4.5

Bertuzzi & Holmstrom $1.5 each...

Nothing more, this team needs to get better via Free Agency, NOT waste all the cap space on the same team that sucked last season. Oh wait, we got Hudler back :puke: What a waste of $2.8M that is! Little focker couldn't even make his National team for his homeland in the Olympics, WTF is he gonna do here? NOTHING! TRADE HIM!


#1991453 SCF Game One GDT

Posted by titanium2 on 30 May 2010 - 11:36 AM

I don't miss the Gary Thorne and Bill Clement that had an obvious Avalanche bias. The other times yeah they were fine.


#1991436 SCF Game One GDT

Posted by uk_redwing on 30 May 2010 - 10:23 AM

Do you happen to miss shanny, your true love?


I do, I do. Oh Shanny...wherefore art thou forsaken me so?! :crybaby:


#1991391 Newly Signed Brendan Smith Charged With Disorderly Conduct

Posted by uk_redwing on 30 May 2010 - 07:49 AM

Sounds like our new enforcer is here.


#1991295 SCF Game One GDT

Posted by puckloo39 on 29 May 2010 - 09:55 PM

the Hawks, featuring the X-Wings, win 6-5. Take that, Pronger, you gallumphing giraffe. <_<