On the difficulty of coming back from 3-0 in the NHL, love this quote from Babs:
The Toronto Maple Leafs, in the 1942 finals against Detroit, and the New York Islanders, in the 1975 quarterfinals against Pittsburgh, are the only teams in NHL history to win a series after trailing 0-3.
“That’s how hard it is to do,” Red Wings coach Mike Babcock said. “And yet, I figure every 33 years or so you’ve got to be due. It must be our turn.”
Doom and Gloom... People thought when Yzerman left the wings were done, well we were not.
This isn't really a good analogy. Steve's role on the team had been diminishing rapidly for two or three seasons before he retired; he was still a good player when he left (you might remember he went on a great run from December of the '06 season and into the playoffs where he certainly didn't look like 40 year old with a bum knee) but was already well on his way to being replaced, and very adequately so, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg.
No other defenseman on the team is as good as Lidstrom; few defensemen in the league, even today, are as good as Lidstrom. He is the motor that powers the big red machine, and he does it on all fronts. I don't believe his departure will be the end of the Wings -- far from it -- but it will be unlike anything most Wings fans have yet experienced.
Screw this, we need Demon Goalie from Mutant League Hockey!!!
And in all seriousness, how many of these threads are we going to have? Jesus cripes.
Howard is still in the net because Osgood has barely played in the past 3-4 months and Howard did little/nothing to suggest getting yanked over that period on a consistent basis. Whether you think it is right/wrong is entirely subjective, but this is Howard's team now. He's either going to be the one to miraculously bring this team out of 50 feet of rubble, or he's going to go down in flames like the rest of the team quickly.
Why is Howard still in the net?
Cuz he's the goalie. Duh.
I knew there was a reason you are so smart! LOL!
IM SUPER SEREAL... Carey Price would look mighty fine in a red wing uniform, the day he leaves montreal a huge bag full of stone will fall off his back and he will once again play lights out... I've never been more convinced.
I've never been more convinced you will not be a goalie coach.
.......and I didn't disagree with you, did I? Does someone need Hooked on Phonics? Pavs is awesome, I've always thought he was awesome. But the WINGS are down 0-3, not just the players who aren't producing this series.
Hooked on Phonics is a reading program. Instead of having any type of valid points all you have don't it take shots at me. Its funny and pathetic, take your time try to form a reasonable argument. Or are you going to talk about my mother next? Oh and F-you dude Pavel is awesome!
the red wings going to the conference finals AGAIN this year is not in the NHL's script. San Jose needs a deep playoff run before you see another one of gary bettman's deep south "gems" enter the realm of financial trouble. though with the garbage economy and the turmoil that the city of Detroit has been through in the past couple years, it would be a nice story if they came back and won this series and the cup. but once again, bettman's heart only bleeds for SoCal and the deep south.
Geeze, too bad for the Sharks that San Jose is neither in SoCal nor the deep south.
1) Buy an atlas (San Jose/the Bay Area is considered Northern California) 2) Take off the tin foil hat.
There is no "NHL script" -- if there were, you'd think the NHL would have scripted a Stanley Cup for the team they placed in the US's 6th largest television market instead of allowing their fans to keep waiting through the first 19 years of the team's exisitence. Instead, in it's infinite wisdom, the NHL has granted the Red Wings, sitting in the 11th largest Metropolitan Market Region the right to win the Cup 4 times in the last 13 years. Where's the logic in that? Wouldn't you think the NHL would be more interested in coddling the bigger markets? Yet it's been the Wings who've won the majority of recents Cups.
Oh, and Pittsburgh's TV market? 23rd in the US. Yeah, the NHL is making bank off promoting them so much.
This kind of conspiracy talk makes everyone a little bit dumber.
If the team that played Game 7 against Phoenix showed up, we would win the series no problem.
They gotta wanna - for 3600 seconds - every player - no exceptions!
pffft - these guys are highly paid professionals - piece o-cake - we got this in the bag.
Although many of you will disagree with a thought of winning this series, the Wings are the only team in the NHL that I believe can pull off a 3-0 comeback. They would be the 3rd in history to do such and hopefully this is there year. History will have to be made in order for this to occur.
The reason I believe the wings can pull this off is the they have not been outplayed in any of the games in this series. All of the games were lost on late mental mistakes by both Howard and the defense.
The wings HAVE to go with a 1 game at a time mentality, otherwise the series is over.
What will have to happen:
Babcock will have to control the emotions of the team
Howard will have to make big saves all game
The defense HAS to tighten up
Stop the sharks pp and ignite our offense on our PP's
Ref's will have to put there whistles away, no bs calls
Wings HAVE to capitalize on the sharks mistakes
Smart decisions when on the ice
Get more pucks on net
Get into Nabbies's head
Star players have to play great
No giving up when down
Now there are plenty of other things that will have to occur, but the wings must start there.
Lets Go Wings!
Whatever you are smoking, roll me one will ya? This series is over.
There's a lot of talk going on now about the history of comebacks in best of sevens with a 3-0 deficit. I didn't know until this series that it's happened twice, and only in the NHL. I have talked about how the Wings, unlike fans, are only looking at a single upcoming game, and not a whole series and a bunch of daunting, seemingly insurmountable statistics. Consider this quote from Lids:
"We're looking at it as what a great feeling it would be if we could be the team to do that again," Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom said Wednesday. "In doing that, you can only look at the next game and not the four games."
ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Of any team, regardless of their position or standings.
One thing I hadn't considered, however, which takes it a step further, came from an article I just read.
By way of preface, the last team to come back trailing 3-0 to win a series was the 1975 Islanders. What I didn't know:
Red Wings 67-year-old senior vice-president Jim Devellano was the assistant general manager with that Islanders team. He has relayed the comeback story to some of the current Red Wings who have inquired. His advice has been to approach it at one period at a time and not look at the daunting task of winning four in a row.
Not just one game. One period at a time! Very wise. I also bolded what I thought was coolest about that excerpt. That tells me the Wings team hasn't given up. Some are asking, still grasping at hope and looking for ways to make it all happen.
Obviously, I want the Sharks to win this series and finally vie for the Cup, but I also want to watch some magnificent hockey, and that won't happen with a deflated team, any more than it can happen with a team that is overconfident to the point of underestimating what is in front of them.
Hasn't happend in the salary cap era, wake up thanks.
What does a salary cap have to do with winning 4 games? Exactly. It's a damn joke the way you consistently appear in peoples threads, posting for the sole purpose of seeing who responds to your blatant flaming. f***in joke.
Well, thankfully it isn't up to us. If Mindfly and other pessimists were in charge of the team, they probably wouldn't even show up to Game 4 and just forfeit. From a personal standpoint, if I was down 3-0, I would come out and play a hard fought game and hold my head high when the game is over. No sense of crying over spilled milk. Come out and give it your best shot and leave it all on the ice.