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#1918496 Awesome Niklas Kronwall Video

Posted by Lidstromboli on 18 March 2010 - 10:39 PM

all those hit reels make it seem like kronwall does it all the time

he should have an injury highlight reel in a couple years

#1918353 McCarty & Claude Lemieux on TSN's OTR

Posted by nosyt612 on 18 March 2010 - 06:40 PM

Just watched it on tsn.ca, really interesting interview.

Go to http://watch.tsn.ca/#clip278196 , click on video library and scroll down to Off the Record and it's the interview under March 18th.

Better yet here's a direct link http://watch.tsn.ca/...-18/#clip278020

#1918325 McCarty & Claude Lemieux on TSN's OTR

Posted by Barrie on 18 March 2010 - 05:40 PM

Had no idea he jumped on the Wings bus to challenge Scotty,hahaha.

That's what Lemieux did, he picked on guys either smaller or a lot older than he was. When someone his own size and age took him on, he turtled.

#1918158 "Detroit the hottest option for Zuccarello Aasen"

Posted by Off the Post on 18 March 2010 - 01:54 PM

Because I enjoyed watching Red Wings hockey in the late 90s? Why does it bother people on this forum so much when anyone suggests that having a skilled team that is still capable of hitting and fighting is enjoyable? I'll be the first to admit that I'd much rather watch the 97-98 roster than the current lineup. It's not necessarily plausible anymore, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to suddenly forget that this team used to be made up of players who stood up for each other and yet were very successful. And, it's not like Hudler and this random guy will be the only softies on the team.

I'm not trying to start another ridiculous "need moar fighters" debate, I'm just saying, I like watching a skilled yet physical team and this guy is even smaller than Hudler.

You need to move on... if you haven't noticed by now the league has completely changed. Having a skilled team is MORE VALUABLE to me then having 19 fighters on the team.

#1918134 "Detroit the hottest option for Zuccarello Aasen"

Posted by Original-Six on 18 March 2010 - 01:20 PM

I am split here... he is obviously talented and a magician with the puck, but there are a few things against him:

1) He is 5'7" (I won't say this will preclude him from NHL success, but read the rest)
2) In that video, most of his goals are scored from within 10 feet of the goal. In not one of those videos was a defender actually covering him. In the NHL, he would have been leveled (especially at 5'7") in two thirds of those plays had he been in the NHL.
3) Those videos are from the SEL, notice, not once does a defender skate up on him, he is allowed to skate freely through neutral ice, that won't happen in the NHL.

If he played great in the Olympics against the NHLs best on a NHL sized sheet of ice i think that would mean hes capable of playing in the NHL.

#1918089 "Detroit the hottest option for Zuccarello Aasen"

Posted by Original-Six on 18 March 2010 - 12:20 PM

Too small.

Martin St. Louis,Patrick Kane, jiri Hudler. Nuff said.
You know he only weights 10 pounds less than Vladdy did?

#1918026 "Detroit the hottest option for Zuccarello Aasen"

Posted by mmamolo on 18 March 2010 - 10:09 AM

I think somethign to keep in mind is that Zuccarello Aasen wouldnt step right into the line up. He would spend some time in GR. By the time he potentially played for the Wings Draper and Maltby would for sure be gone and Holmstrom could also potentially be gone.

Even if Hudler were to come back by then Abdelkader would be in the line up and ideally we could add another big body up front to compliment the skill players. If we rounded out our skill with big bodies like Bertuzzi (even though he doesnt always use his size), Franzen, Abdelkader and an extra add on then suddenly our forwards don't seen terribly small.

All I'm saying is that in my mind skill and hockey sense out weighs size in today's NHL. That being said I think you fill out your roster with energy and toughness around your skill.

#1918012 "Detroit the hottest option for Zuccarello Aasen"

Posted by TheOctopusKid on 18 March 2010 - 09:46 AM

A quick couple of points after a quick jaunt around the "Internets"

1)He plays for Modo in the Swedish Elite League - where his two year stat totals were: 90gp, 35g, 69asst, 104p. The SEL is often considered to be the most conservative and defensive oriented league in the world. The gaudy offensive numbers of the Q, WHL, KHL, etc often are not reflective of a players abilities in the SEL. To provide some level of perspective - Zetterberg's stat line in 2005 was 50gp, 19g, 31assts, 50pts. The following season in 2006, he had 85 points for the Red Wings. I am by no way implying that he will be Henrik Zetterberg, however his numbers are misleading. HIs SEL pedigree follows a long line of "point per game" future NHL stars like Forsberg, Backstrom, Sedin, Sedin, Alfredsson, etc. and actually his collective stats thus far are as good if not better than many of them.

He was awarded "Most Point in the League (SEL)" in 2009, and was additionally awarded "Best Norweigan Player" in 2008.

2) According to Elite Prospects -

Strengths - Fantastic technical skills and great passing ability. Can finish with ablomb. A magician who can do spectacular things with the puck. Great vision and can man the power play point. Defensively responsible and doesn't mind heavy traffic.

Weaknesses - Size and strength. Not a great physical player


Zuccarello Aasen has often been overlooked due to his short stature and size. In fact, there are already those on this boards who do not want him solely based upon his physical size. However, he has no concern over physical play and will play through traffic. The Red Wings have had a propensity to draft and acquire undersized players who lacked "ideal" NHL size for their position - many of which who have developed into key contributors (Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Hudler, etc.). Additionally, it's not as if there hasn't been a precedent of a 5'7", underweight, playmaking Right Winger who plays with offensive flair who aggressively plows into heavy traffic (cough Theo Fluery cough). Christ, there is a laundry list of undersized players who have thrived in the NHL (regardless of players like Pronger) - St. Louis, Gionta, Kapenan, etc.

3) Steve Yzerman has raved about this kid and I for one, would not question Steve Yzerman about...well, anything really.

4) The Red Wings appear to have the inside track on securing him. The Red Wings have shown the most interest in his play (alongside Chicago, Dallas, and the Thrashers). The Thrashers are irrelevant, Dallas would be a poor fit for him, and Chicago will not be able to afford offering anything above a basic entry level contract as they are well over the cap for next year.


5) His nickname is the "Wizard Hobbit" - Sweet Tap-Dancing Christ - that alone is worth a 2 year deal.

After all of this - why wouldn't the Red Wings offer him a contract? It allows them to secure another prospect without the cost of a draft pick or at the expense of any current players. It is all upside. Best case scenario - we secure a potential top six forward. Worst case - we have a tradable asset at next year's deadline.

#1918160 Teams that Should Have Never Changed their Jerseys

Posted by F.Michael on 18 March 2010 - 01:57 PM

Yeah, I saw highlights of the game.

The jerseys looked awesome. I was waiting for Troy Crowder to come off the bench there.

The jersey devil is probably green anyway, so why not wear the color?

Bill Guerin was probably having some flashbacks as well.

#1917841 NHL's most and least valuable players

Posted by Kira on 17 March 2010 - 09:34 PM

I'll take Brad Stuart over a hell of a lot more guys any day of the week and three times on Sunday.

Least valuable player, my ass.

#1917800 NHL's most and least valuable players

Posted by lilja4mvp on 17 March 2010 - 08:31 PM

stuart's NTC is up after this season.

time to cut that 3.75 mil loose. see ya, brad.

#1917744 Red Wings GM Ken Holland hasn't given up on wandering Jiri Hudler

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 17 March 2010 - 06:11 PM

I don't understand why people don't what Huds back he could easily put up 70pts on either the 1st or 2nd line of this team. How can you complain about getting a guy back like this when this team has a overpayed underpreforming Dan Cleary on the 2nd line? He has been a ghost this season along with the on and off again play with Bertuzzi. Hudler is a great young player which will help this team and give us a much better 2nd unit PP.

I don't want him back in Detroit.He may be able to put up 40-50 points,but for the amount of ice time he got when he was here before,he should more like 65-80.He's not defensively responsible.He doesn't know what backcheck or forecheck means.I'd rather see Detroit go after a more well rounded player.

#1917641 Hawks talk about possible 1-8 match

Posted by SouthernWingsFan on 17 March 2010 - 02:03 PM

Howard will suck

Lilja will never play again

Holmstrom should hang it up

Ericsson will be great this year

The Wings will miss the playoffs

Reasons that I don't take many of the posters on here seriously.

Well, Howard was a big ? since he barely had much NHL experience before this season. Thankfully he has pretty much proven everybody wrong. I would pay you $10 though if you would've predicted this to happen though.

It was quite possible that Lilja might not play again. Nothing was heard new of his condition until about a week or so before he finally got cleared to play again.

And it still might be entirely possible that the Wings still miss the playoffs, even though they greatly improved their chances Monday night. Almost as much as possible as them getting up to a 5 seed which GMR rolled his eyes like a smart allec at.

Way to go though with things that haven't nothing to do with the topic at hand though and the holier than thou attitude. Makes you look real good... :huh: :unsure:

#1917430 What to do with Osgood next Year?

Posted by Pucks on 16 March 2010 - 09:02 PM

Same situation with Osgood as with Draper. That's 3 million bucks between the two of them that will be wasted for next year. It's shame but we have to wait an extra year to make that money useful.

#1917393 What to do with Osgood next Year?

Posted by mackel on 16 March 2010 - 07:12 PM

I think the savings from a lateral move with regard to the back goalie position would be a good thing. At this stage Osgood is purely a back up and a backup of equal ability can be inked for 500K less a year. That's 500K toward a resigned or new FA.