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#2193165 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by 55fan on 01 July 2011 - 01:53 AM

Dont bring his mom into it.

Hes Big

Hes Strong

and hes a limp wristed *****.

We cant afford to keep him on the team. We can monetarily handle it but the Wings arent going to WIN with him on the team. He got signed for one of two things...

1. Hes set to be traded to Toronto or Winni or Ottawa. OH GOD PLEASE MAKE IT TRUE.

2. Holland bluffed and waited and lost. Now hes picking up the pieces.

3. Im a total idiot that has no room to talk and we have a Grade A defense crew next year

I dont think #3 is the case.

Why not bring his mom into it? Wouldn't it effect your game? These are things that are all factors. He has the basics. We've seen him do well. He needs to get it all together. Something like having your mom sick and maybe dying can mess with your head.

If things are better for her (and I hope so, because she's a human being, not because I want her son to play better) then I don't think it's unwise to give him another go.

Overpaid? Yeah, in comparison to the rest of the team, but you pay against what is available in that year.

Raffy was a steal at 6 mil. He had been offered 8, but turned it down to play in Detroit. Compared to Nik and Stu, he was overpaid. Lids has been a huge bargain compared to what he could make elsewhere for years.

I think that's why he has the contract he has. It's not what we have; it's what we have yet to get that determines the price. Would we want Lilja for that contract? Salei? Jovo? They're all listed at even or below him on most UFA lists I've seen this year. It's been an odd year with little talent available going into Free Agent Day. Everyone will overpay this year, not just Holland.


#2193161 Holland Appreciation Thread

Posted by 55fan on 01 July 2011 - 01:39 AM

"Action Failed: You have reached your quota for positive votes today"

Or else I'd plus one ya.

:)




PS- Why the heck is there a limit on plus one votes anyway? I can understand a quota on negatives, but positives too?

Fear not, for I too am out of + and - ability, and we would have just canceled each other out. So all is well on that front.
(My apologies to Barrie- you have had several posts today that I would have given a + if I had more to give.)

Back to topic:
Given the small number of free agent defensemen out there this year (Jovo, Salei, and Lilja were in the top 20 on a list I read), and given the prices that are demanded by other players and that will be demanded when the Noon Whistle blows today, I don't think that giving Ericsson a contract that is, yes, overblown for any other year is an indication that Holland is not a good GM. It just means that he's taking a known quantity over an unknown or rejected quantity and guaranteeing that it will come at a price that will not be as over-the-top as what others might demand.

On Ericsson's behalf, he would have seen higher on the open market. I do think that the fact that it took this long to negotiate would indicate that E was pushing for higher, which would be logical based on the poor class of UFA's this year.

Supply and demand are responsible for E's outrageous contract, not a mis-step on the part of Holland.


#2193153 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by 55fan on 01 July 2011 - 01:24 AM

Sorry, gang, but when I joined here people were lambasting Kronner at $3m/year. I don't think that by the end of this we'll be sorry.

Does anyone know if E's mom is ok now? I had heard she was fighting cancer last year. Worrying about a loved one can have a bad effect on your concentration. Maybe this is why he is getting another chance to prove himself.


#2192605 Avs Retiring Forsberg's Number

Posted by 55fan on 30 June 2011 - 04:28 PM

It will be hung from the rafters with a bungy cord.

Jersey goes up. Jersey changes its mind. Jersey comes down...


Just think... if he hadn't given Igor that extra shove, and if Igor had not objected...


#2192259 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by 55fan on 30 June 2011 - 12:00 AM

Jagr's mom just texted me and said he's signing with Detroit.

esteef

Well, that's one woman we know Hudler's not banging right now.


#2192191 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by 55fan on 29 June 2011 - 09:35 PM

Jagr has decided.

He will have the chicken cordon bleu and a salad with raspberry vinaigrette.

Hold the turtles.

Details at 11.


#2191428 Taking back a +/- rating

Posted by 55fan on 29 June 2011 - 08:57 AM

I've done that myself. I usually do the same thing- find another post and give it a plus. Sometimes I comment on it, or if I know the person, shoot them a PM to let them know. Some people don't care or notice. Some are sensitive to it.

I would suppose (and I freely admit that I'm guessing here) that if it were a feature that came with the +/- system that it would be an option already. I try to be careful when giving out minuses. Giving out too many pluses has never bothered me.


#2190213 Random Discussion Thread

Posted by 55fan on 26 June 2011 - 09:57 PM

I miss it after it's been sitting in the lunch box for 2-3 hours, jelly all soaked into the bread.

I do believe that we've found something that we agree on whole-heartedly.
:beerbuddy:

Oh, yeah. I think we also agreed that the Throwing of the Octopus should be a playoff-only tradition.

But the lunchbox PBJ ruled.


#2190170 The 4th Period's Top 30 Free Agents

Posted by 55fan on 26 June 2011 - 07:54 PM

Thanks for the link. Very interesting to see the "teams of interest".

I'm on the Jovo-for-cheaper wagon. Wiz would be my first choice, and I really wouldn't argue with Kaberle if he came for a reasonable price. I think he would be ok in the smaller role that he would have with the Wings.

July 1 and following will be interesting.


#2189989 2011 NHL Draft: Round 1 Discussion

Posted by 55fan on 26 June 2011 - 12:51 PM

The way I look at it is that there's nothing wrong with being very religious. But there's a key distinction between the two. Rafalski made it to his retirement with nobody having a clue about it - he kept it as part of his personal life. That's good.

In contrast, this guy couldn't even make it through his draft without not only making it very apparent, but using it to judge people. (Admittedly I didn't see this, I'm going off of what people here are saying.)

They're two very different cases.

Disagree on both counts. Those who know Raffy were quite aware. He and other Wings have often spoken of their beliefs (see also Datsyuk and Howard). We may not notice or hear of it, but it comes up in interviews and such. I remember Draper commenting on it once that it made no difference in the locker room what their beliefs were. They all had their own.

Rocco is a young underage kid headed to UND (which is why I had kind of been looking at him) and he isn't going to drink or get in trouble in college. Locker room cancer? I doubt it. Not sure how abstaining from alcohol when one is underage makes one judgmental. I'd rather have a kid in my system that I didn't have to worry about doing that sort of things. Too many kids around here have screwed up their sports scholarships over drinking or other illegal activities.

So he said it would be wrong for him to drink. Yeah. He's underage. It's illegal.

By the time he gets to the NHL, he'll be of age. Then it will be his decision whether or not to drink or anything else. Knowing the ND culture as I do, he will have been exposed to a LOT of drinking. He will either find people with his own likes and dislikes to spend his time with and avoid the parties, or he will become everyone's favourite Designated Driver. I went to college with both types of non-drinkers.

Being religious or non-religious doesn't make a person a good or bad player, nor does it make them a good or bad teammate. Once a person is a teammate with someone, they know that person well enough that they know their beliefs. They may not be the same, but they know what they are. And from that point on, it isn't whether a person is religious or not; it's how they coexist with others.


#2189465 2011 NHL Draft: Round 1 Discussion

Posted by 55fan on 25 June 2011 - 08:52 AM

Considering that Pavel keeps pictures of Jesus, Mary and St Nicholas (the Russian saint, not the Captain of the Wings) in his locker, I think a religious person would be in good company.

I honestly have to question some people's perception of others and how quickly we jump to conclusions. It's insulting to the majority of Christians I know, including myself.

Honestly, I can't remember his exact words, but it was something to the effect of living his own life by what he feels is right and not what others think.

So he doesn't cave in to negative pressure. Not a bad thing for a kid.


#2189459 2011 NHL Draft: Rounds 2-7 Discussion

Posted by 55fan on 25 June 2011 - 08:43 AM

the best post in a while... :thumbup:

Best post in a VERY long while!


Red Wings pick Colton St. Clair. You heard it here first. E111eleven111!


#2189456 Nashville's New Logos

Posted by 55fan on 25 June 2011 - 08:35 AM

hmm, maybe with the addition of this new "player" guy nashville can afford to move weber now?

Nope. Player is a left wing. Dating Carrie Underwood's sister. Wears number 11 because he tends to read upside down and backwards and they didn't want him confused. Skates well.


#2189304 2011 NHL Draft: Round 1 Discussion

Posted by 55fan on 24 June 2011 - 10:02 PM

Alexander Khokhlachev should be around for the Wings tomorrow morning. :thumbup: Hockey News has this guy ranked at #13!

They have Saad ranked at 14th. Either could happen.


#2189298 Habs shopping Wisniewksi's rights + for a 2nd rounder

Posted by 55fan on 24 June 2011 - 09:58 PM

Why not just wait until July 1st?

Because this would soothe the people who are upset because we're not doing something NOW!!! Since NOW!!! seems to be a good time to move because the Wild, Leafs and Avs have done so tonight.