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lomekian

Member Since 25 May 2007
Offline Last Active Aug 26 2015 08:51 AM
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In Topic: Franzen's Gift to Nyquist

11 August 2015 - 05:31 PM

Love the fact Franzen was a wings fan and had the gloves in 1988 - thats before the streak kids....


In Topic: Who is better Nyquist or Tatar?

04 August 2015 - 07:24 PM

I prefer Tatar for his enthusiasm and hustle, but I think Nyquist is the better player. Better defensively, better playmaking for others and he just has a higher hockey sense. The downside is that he is more of a confidence player and thus more likely to blow hit and cold.

In Topic: Which prospect will have the best nhl career

04 August 2015 - 04:27 PM

Larkin is the safest bet, (such smooth progression) and at the moment has little competition for his projected role. Mantha has an upside that may be even greater but a few more question marks, and may have more competition. Neither will see more than a handful of games this year, just as mantha was very unlikely to make the team even before his injury.

Looking at lower draft picks, AA is the one who looks most nailed on at NHL level and probably has the highest ceiling, but I think Holmstrom has an alluring mix of intensity and smarts.

D-wise, I think all are 2nd/3rd pairing guys, but I love marchenko's gone and think he has upside...

In Topic: Who is the better player Zetterberg or Toews. Prime vs. Present

03 August 2015 - 03:51 AM

Also using the mutual shut down (edge to hank on an inferior team) in 2013 to compare peaks is not that great, as its 3-4 years after his peak, struggling with back problems and often stuck with at least one offensive vacuum.

They are very similar players, and right now Toews is the better, but at his best hank could just do more

In Topic: Who is the better player Zetterberg or Toews. Prime vs. Present

03 August 2015 - 03:42 AM

 
None of Chicago's stars put up massive numbers.  They balance their scoring out, kind of like the Wings during their heyday in the laste 90's and early 00's. I guess Kane could have been on track to win the Art Ross this season if not for injuries, but we never got to find out.
 
Tayes, just like Zetterberg, can affect a game without scoring a lot.  The biggest difference is, I think we need more from Zetterberg offensively. Chicago has more big names they can rely on.  When Tayes doesn't score, someone else for them steps up. When Zetterberg doesn't score, we get eliminated from the playoffs.    
 
In any case, my post was simply in response to Tayes not scoring 70 points. I think it's harder to hit 70 points nowadays than it was 5 years ago when Zetterberg last did it.  

 
That was a team effort.  Zetterberg had Datsyuk on his wing and Lidstrom on the blue line.  The team shut Crosby down, Zetterberg being a large part of it.  But it wasn't a one man job, like people on LGW always make it sound.    
 
Besides, Zetterberg was at his peak back then, and Crosby was still young and a few years removed from what would have been his peak (if not for the concussion issue).  


Lost a post refuting this do to summarise...

Zetterberg was specifically lined up on Crosby. Crosby was at 1.5ppg in the region seasons AND playoffs and considered the best player in the NHL at forward. Hank out scored him significantly in both series.

When not playing with Dats, quite common in those days, hank had bloody awful line mates. And even with Dats, homer for all we loved him was not a world class limemate.

Hank was flexible enough to be a defensive centre, a goslscoring winger, a playmaker and a defence first or offence first guy depending on the situation. Apart from the final third of this season he has elevated the play of every line mate he's had, from hull to homer and from franzen to nyquist and Abby. Even dats best times have come when the twins are together. Zetterberg is smart enough to find chemistry with Almost every line mate given, not something that stamkos, dats, Malkin, toews or pretty much anyon not called Crosby can say at the mo.

Were his back functional and his legs not slowing he'd still be toews equal even though his shot has dropped off.

That's not to say the Chicago kid isn't special, but it's easy to forget excellence when one sees it 3 times s week for over a decade