Holland has spoken to the media. Apparently the Wings drafted a "letter of compensation" that teams must sign if they want to have serious discussions with Babcock. They'll get a 3rd round pick. Also, it seems like this window closes May 25th.
From my understanding - it's the 3rd round pick for 3 seasons (3 picks in all).
Well I certainly don't disagree with that. But I think this is slightly different. He's overpayed, overvalued, and underproducing. No need to acquire a guy like that just because he's "real big" and "real tough". He's a bad player and his own team is dying to get rid of the guy. That should tell you something.
imagine phaneuf and lucic in a wings jersey.
ha! would never happen. none of them are named dan cleary
In a galaxy far far away a man named Kenny Holland found his balls on the shelf.....Once blowing the dust off - he found the courage to swing a trade for 1 Brendan Shanahan.....May the force be with you.
I love her twitter account. You can actually see her getting more and more excited prior to the game. She had no idea what was in store, and how horribly wrong her night was going to wind up. It's like looking into the past and the future at the same time lol.
I looked over her account, but nothing led me to believe that she'd be a hot date...
You wrote more than you needed to. My whole point is that Holland's previous successes shouldn't give him immunity at his current job. Immunity is dangerous at any job. If I had immunity at my job, I'd have strippers and scotch here every day
Hey - you better invite me!
But it's not just "past successes". That's the point. He's still a very successful GM, and his teams are still very successful. It's not like we're stinking up the place, missing the playoffs, and competing for lottery picks.
I agree that you should have total immunity at your job. But you also shouldn't be fired if you don't remain at the absolute apex of your industry in perpetuity.
We've gone six years since our last Cup. Exactly the same amount of time between our Cups in 2002 and 2008. It would have been a mistake to fire Holland back then, and it would be a mistake now.
Be careful for what ya wish for...For all we know the next GM could somehow be related to Matt Millen.
Completely agree on Todd McLellan. Bring Blashill up as an assistant. Continue to groom him.
I guess I think of Holland as the main person to bring in talent. When he isn't. I blame him. That's how black and white I look at it though.
This is probably one of his biggest off seasons. He needs to better prepare for Pasha and Z's departures. He really didn't with Lids or Rafalski. Years prior to their retirements, he could've been planning. Granted Kronwall and E never materialized into absolute greats, but again, isn't it his job to foresee some of that stuff? I don't know, maybe I just don't understand his role.
The same way I blame the Lions for years of not getting the right players, I blame other teams.
If he goes out and gets value for Howard, that would be a step in the right direction.
I don't think you can have 6 million tied up in two #1 starting goalies.
I will agree with you about Howard - that is if there's a package that can be made to shore up other areas on the roster - then why not look at what's out there.
"I don't know why they're not coming here" - Ken Holland
That's a hard question to answer.
Is it due to the impression the city of Detroit gives to outsiders? Has the novelty of being a Red Wing worn off? Is playing for Babcock a pain in the ass? By signing some players in the past, and then not getting ice time starting to bite the Wings in the ass?
I'm thinking the answer is 'yes' to all of the above.
So what, if we made the playoffs for 24 consecutive seasons (you don't get a trophy for it). Its not about making it to the playoffs, it's what you do in the playoffs that matters.
What specific moves would you have rather seen Holland make?
What could/should Holland have done to lure hi-end UFA's to Detroit?
Again - he's not perfect, but lets take a step back from all of this, and look at the big picture...The Wings are still 1 of the 'better' teams in the league, and unlike LA, Boston, Pitt - we made the playoffs, and we don 't need to clean house.