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#2680536 Other than Stamkos, which FA forward do you want?

Posted by F.Michael on 30 June 2016 - 09:34 AM

 

 

 

Okposo brings so much more than just scoring. To compare him to Clarkson who has 0 skills is really crazy. Okposo primarily is powerforward who besides that is a puck hog. 7 millions might just be a bit too steep for him but I'd like to have him for 6. 


 

Backes is far away from being a number 1 center and the best FA available. Staal is the only one who might play another year or two like a nr1 Center.

I'm also pretty sure that Shipachev will be far better than Backes. 

And yes...we need a Datsyuk-style of player. We hardly ever had the puck, were one of the worst possession teams. And we just lost our best possession player. While I think that possession is overrated you still cannot win games if you're chasing the puck all season long. Surely not with our defense.

Shaman was comparing contracts - not the actual players themselves.




#2680527 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by F.Michael on 30 June 2016 - 09:09 AM

This is true, Shea Weber is a thug. He smashed our captains head against the glass unexprededly. League did fine him although he should have gotten a suspension for his thug antics.

Looks like Subban wins in the leadership department too. Who wants a thug who smashes guys heads into walls instead of offering a fair fight.

So Nashville gained a defenseman not only with better stats all around but also a better person.

$5 says Weber is gonna visit sick kids in Subbans hospital wing, and sucker punch'em.




#2680526 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 30 June 2016 - 09:06 AM

I'm telling ya, sign all of Nielsen, Okposo and Martin, coin them the Brooklyn Line and then make a deal for a better defenseman.

Sounds crazy, but this might actually happen since all 3 happen to be tires that Holland wants to kick...And apparently we have enough to afford all 3...Not sure if that's the best move for the team.


Haha this got me good


And yeah, I agree holland wouldn't offer sheet anyone. But a kucherov/Larkin combo? A guy can dream.. :P

Holland still needs to offer sheet a Canes player before he quits his role as GM...Payback for Feds circa 1998.




#2680518 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 30 June 2016 - 08:50 AM

To me Rick Nash is a more expensive version of Eric Staal, and both are declining.




#2680328 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by F.Michael on 29 June 2016 - 05:10 PM

You must be thinking of 2009 Weber...

This.

 

If Weber were several years younger, and about to enter his prime - this it would be a pretty equal trade IMO.




#2680251 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 29 June 2016 - 04:08 PM

This is how I pictured them pitching Stamkos an offer.

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If someone could photoshop Babcocks, and Shanahans faces - that would be priceless!




#2680081 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 29 June 2016 - 01:07 PM

Maclean just reittered how tight Stamkos and Martin are and thinks they may end up in the same place...hmmmm....

Would love to have both.

 

Apparently they played on the same line in Sarnia.




#2680012 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 09:35 PM

I know this has been brought up before some pages ago...While listening to Sirius radio - apparently it is still possible for a 'sign, and trade' with Stamkos.

 

This would allow a max of 8 years, and potential for a more 'favorable' cap friendly hit for the last few seasons.

 

Some food for thought.




#2679994 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 08:37 PM

 

Speed kinda is everything though.  What's the difference between Matt Cullen, Luke Glendening, Darren Helm, and Matt Martin?  None of them have good hands.  None are noticeably smarter hockey players.  But the first three, because they're fast, get more scoring chances (and as a result capitalize more often).  And they can kill penalties...because they can skate.  Martin can't.  And so he doesn't. 

 

I don't have a problem with physicality.  But if that's all you're getting then you're not really helping yourself. 

 

My ideal fourth line for the Wings is Glendening-Helm-Bertuzzi/Callahan.  None hit like Martin.  All are WAY better players though. 


 

It's not splitting hairs.  Hitting doesn't win games.  Offensive and defense do.  Neither Miller nor Martin are great offensively.  But only one of them is good defensively.  It ain't Martin. 

I guess we agree to disagree then.

 

I honestly don't see why Martin couldn't contribute to the Wings - regardless of your opinion.




#2679991 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 08:19 PM

 

Help us do what?  Hit people?  It would be a help if he could score.  Or defend.  Or kill penalties.  He doesn't do any of those things better than Miller does. 

His overall point production is on par with Miller.

 

Martin hits more, and is abrasive.

 

Miller kills pen, and Martin does not.

 

To me - it's all a personal preference, and we're splitting hairs when comparing who brings what to the table.




#2679990 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 08:10 PM

Ericsson to Dallas is the only slim chance we might have , Howard is sadly going nowhere till the expansion draft

Nyquist could be used in a package for a dman , I wouldn't just trade him away though

We got enough bottom guys though and a ton of kids going for roster spots and a chance to play ... Miller glendening sheahan mantha Tatar ... Possibly jurco frk pulkkinen . Why add a 3-4 million salary for a 4th liner now?

Sooner or later these kids are gonna have to get a shot to make the team

I honestly cannot see Holland offering a guy like Martin anything more than $2 million - although there's always another GM who could offer more.




#2679984 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 07:46 PM

 

I wouldn't say anyone is saying we go to the other extreme. Adding a big winger or two doesn't make us Anaheim or Boston, it would give us a nice mix.

Must agree...It's disingenuous to claim 1 thing, or another.

 

Adding some size, and physicality to this roster would only help rather than hinder.




#2679888 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 03:55 PM

So something like Larkin 1C, AA 2C, Sheahan 3C and Glendening 4c. and move Z to a wing?

Anything is possible.




#2679881 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 03:32 PM

who'd you promote?

I'm thinking Larkin, or AA could fill in.




#2679879 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 28 June 2016 - 03:21 PM

Whether we like it or not we absolutely have to sign a center. If Stamkos says "no thanks" Nielson is the next best option. Nielson + Ladd/Lucic/Okposo + Brower/Martin would fill a lot of holes. If we don't sign Helm we have enough room to add 3 of the above names.

To be honest - if we're that desperate for a center - I'd rather promote from within if we don't land Stamkos rather than sign a ufa that'll want 5 plus years, and he's on the opposite side of 30.