I remember a few years ago I was at Joe Louis West as I like to call the Hawks' barn, wearing my Yzerman jersey and a Hawk fan yelled at me, "Why are you wearing that? He doesn't even play for them anymore! And Red Wings suck!" It was then I looked at who he was wearing and it happened to be a Byfuglien one so I said, "Why are you wearing that? HE doesn'e even play for the Hawks anymore." He then tried to tell me that Byfuglien still does, and that he just bought it because Byfuglien is a, "Beast," and will win cups with the Hawks for many years to come. So I laughed in his face and left. Then some of their fans tried pushing my little brother down the stairs getting outside. It was a real...magical...expierence.
And hell I remember when Wing sweaters took up 85% of that place, they couldn't even give tickets away, what a joke.
I kid you not - I was at a game in the UC where nearly 70% were Wings fans (back in 2003 when the Hawks were in the dumps), and the Wings scored - the crowd went wild, and the loud horn went off (the guy behind the button must've fell asleep, and thought the Hawks scored due to the noise from the crowd).
To be clear, i am not alleging that the Captain had anything to do with this decision, but it is an absolute embarrassment to the Lightning organization as well their fan base. I guess once expansion teams enter the picture this type of behavior exists.
While TB's policy is nothing short of retarded - has anyone here other than myself been to a game in Chicago while wearing your Red Wing jersey?
Hawks fans can be pretty classless turds toward visiting fans.
The TO fans are just as excited for Babcock as we are for our fresh start. I don't blame them for thinking that he is going to turn some players around, just like I don't blame us for thinking Blash (I hired) will bring in the fresh new blood and life into the stale line combo's. BUT, the big difference is, we have seen what a team that was totally Babcock's does. He took over a Scotty Bowman built team ( I don't count the Dave Lewis years in between) and then after peaking with it in 07-09, pretty much got worse and worse as the years went by. Not saying that Babs won't a great coach, but it's not like he is coming to a team that is as good as the Wings were when he took over. Maybe he can turn Kessel and Phaneuf, etc... into consistant winners, but like he said, its going to be a long road. I have a feeling that Kessel and Phanuef, among others, will not be there if/when the Leafs do win a Cup. Babs is going to work with management to trade away assets for draft picks and players that will help turn the franchise around. He said it at the presser, he needs to build the team via the draft and with picks. Again, I don't blame the fans for being excited, but what they don't realize is and good portion of the current team will not be there within the next couple of years...Then they will see how a Babcock built team plays. I still don't know if he was given any control of players here, but if he did choose some players, he sure wasn't the best at it. Of course losing out on Suter was a hard pill to swallow, I think it set his mind moving forward when that happened...
I'm probably one of the few who thinks the Leafs roster isn't half bad - just poor coaching, and media hype have torn that team apart...IMHO their roster is good enough to make the playoffs.
If Babs really wants to build thru the draft then the fans better be prepared for several plus years before they'll have a shot at icing a championship team...And even then there's no guarantee of a top notch team via the draft; how many highly regarded prospects/players have come, and gone in the NHL?
We know what factors were supposed to determine his final decision because over the last three weeks he has explicitly, AND PUBLICLY, stated the things that would factor into his final decision. It wasn't a secret. The fact that those things don't seem to exist in Toronto is the confounding part.
I imagine it's because he never thought that he'd get the offer he did from the Maple Leafs, and when he did, it forced him to re-evaluate his priorities. Which is totally fine. But you can't accept that as the truth and then say "but it wasn't about the money".
Otherwise, he really was lying when he talked about winning, and family, and "not having the next Dats, Z, Kronwall", and all the rest of that crap. And as much as I think Babcock is a obnoxious, egotistical, blowhard, I don't think he's a liar.
And that's the last thing I'm saying on the topic of Mike Babcock's decision. I'm a Wings fan. I don't give a s*** about the Toronto Maple Leafs, their players, or their coach. They're all a bunch of losers to me.
Helm isn't going anywhere , seriously doubt it he can play the wing as well and has a ton of speed
Tell Babs when he comes calling for glendening to pay up a 1st or take a hike lol
At times Helm was a force to reckon with in the post season...He's finally turning into the player that we had hoped he'd become, but then again - as bad as it sounds - maybe his trade value is at a all time high, and what we get in return will fill a few holes?