Just think what he'd get today if he were playing...
Sorta ironic the guy is suffering residual effects from getting his brain bounced around in his skull.
I really have mixed feelings over this. On the one hand, his symptoms sound horrible. On the other, I wonder if he's sat at home now thinking "I wish I never smashed Holmstrom's head into the glass. I wish I never stomped on Kesler"? The NHL is unquestionably a safer place for Pronger's retirement. He was a great player, second only to Lidstrom in his generation. He was also a dirty, cowardly, cheap shotting, spot picking bully who could and should have been called for cross-checking on every shift of his career. A "tough guy" whose fight card is topped by Dan Cleary and Michael Handzus.
As for cap circumvention, its already cap circumvention even without the whole "retired by not retired". The guy is signed till he's 43, how is that different to the original Kovy deal?
When you read about what he's been going thru - you tend to feel sorry for him...Then you look at old videos of him at his 'finest' courtesy of YouTube, and suddenly that empathy dries up.
I guess this is where we differ. You'd apparently rather watch two teams, neither of whom you're a fan of, just because they're more likely to punch each other. I'd rather watch the Red Wings win. I'd rather watch Datsyuk dangle, Kronwall hit, and Jimmy stand on his head. I'd rather see the game where our powerplay finally comes alive, or Alfie get his first goal as a Wing, or a four goal night from Mule, or Mrazek come off the bench because of a (non-serious) injury to Jimmy and play out of this world.
There's no need to invent drama in sports, there's always something there. Even against the Panthers. I always thought that's what makes a diehard fan. When you don't miss a game, regardless of the opponent. When you don't leave early, even during a loss. When you always find something to be excited about. When you'd rather watch the Detroit Red Wings play the Phoenix Coyotes than the Bruins and the Habs, not because it'll be the best game ever, but because they're the Detroit F*cking Red Wings and they're the best team ever. And for games like against Carolina. A nobody.
But apparently, when you're being honest, you'd rather see one guy punch another guy.
Been a die-hard Detroit Red Wings fan since 1984.
I've always enjoyed physical/tough hockey.
Just because I choose to watch a different game a few times a year when the Wings are on at the same time doesn't take away the fact that the Wings have been, and always be my #1 team.
Once again boys, and girls...Physical/tough hockey against a long time rival is much more fun to watch than hockey with little to no contact, and against an opponent that has little to no history of competing against one another.
Am I one of the few here that yearn for a Red Wings vs "opponent's name here" rivalry that harkens back to what we had against the Avs?
Haha, cute. Except none of the "anti-fighting" crowd is questioning anything like this, mostly because it's not true. It's just another thing you've completely made up to legitimize your personal preference. Here in the real world, dominated by facts, league revenue and television viewership is still steadily increasing, despite the diminishing number of fights.
Edit: Also, Detroit was third in the league in attendance last season. We actually had higher average attendance last year than we did during the 97-98 Cup season. So it really is just as full as it ever was. Here's proof...
You are an all or nothing type of guy/gal I am assuming.
And you realize Yzerman is not asking for fighting to be abolished? He is asking for stiffer penalties.
But hey who cares if getting punched in the head led to players killing themselves as long as you are entertained.
And if Athletes are so willing to accept the dangers why are there class action suits in the NFL and NCAA because the leagues did not do enough to prevent long term damage from concussions?
Let me take a crack at this...
Hipchecks - very few players today seem capable, or willing to attempt one (hence why we do not see them as often like we did back in the 80's), and the potential for a knee injury, and getting called for a low hit by the refs are also factors a player must consider...When it's done right - it's a thing of beauty - however we don't see them as often.
NJ Devils circa 1995 - excitement at it's finest - am I right?
How many players in the past 20 plus years took their own life?..In recent years - I know Probert died of a heart attack, Boogaard of a drug overdose (accidental if I remember correctly)...Only Belak, and Rypien I believe were deemed suicides, and both of those individuals had suffered from depression.
Not sure how the NCAA, and pro leagues could've prevented concussions when in just the past decade we're finding out more, and more of their long term effects.