Speed kinda is everything though. What's the difference between Matt Cullen, Luke Glendening, Darren Helm, and Matt Martin? None of them have good hands. None are noticeably smarter hockey players. But the first three, because they're fast, get more scoring chances (and as a result capitalize more often). And they can kill penalties...because they can skate. Martin can't. And so he doesn't.
I don't have a problem with physicality. But if that's all you're getting then you're not really helping yourself.
My ideal fourth line for the Wings is Glendening-Helm-Bertuzzi/Callahan. None hit like Martin. All are WAY better players though.
It's not splitting hairs. Hitting doesn't win games. Offensive and defense do. Neither Miller nor Martin are great offensively. But only one of them is good defensively. It ain't Martin.
I guess we agree to disagree then.
I honestly don't see why Martin couldn't contribute to the Wings - regardless of your opinion.
Ericsson to Dallas is the only slim chance we might have , Howard is sadly going nowhere till the expansion draft
Nyquist could be used in a package for a dman , I wouldn't just trade him away though
We got enough bottom guys though and a ton of kids going for roster spots and a chance to play ... Miller glendening sheahan mantha Tatar ... Possibly jurco frk pulkkinen . Why add a 3-4 million salary for a 4th liner now?
Sooner or later these kids are gonna have to get a shot to make the team
I honestly cannot see Holland offering a guy like Martin anything more than $2 million - although there's always another GM who could offer more.
Whether we like it or not we absolutely have to sign a center. If Stamkos says "no thanks" Nielson is the next best option. Nielson + Ladd/Lucic/Okposo + Brower/Martin would fill a lot of holes. If we don't sign Helm we have enough room to add 3 of the above names.
To be honest - if we're that desperate for a center - I'd rather promote from within if we don't land Stamkos rather than sign a ufa that'll want 5 plus years, and he's on the opposite side of 30.
Lesser FA signings would be pointless for this team. I'd rather have the young guys fill those roles and develop. We have room for about 2 stud forwards and a stud defenseman. Signing anyone else would force us to expose our good prospects to waivers.
Personally I think our bottom 6 forwards could use a bit more edge...Martin would fill in nicely...Guys like Jurco, and Pulkinen seem invisible out there.
Thing is, I believe the Wings could still afford these 2 guys even WITH Stamkos. But if you sign a UFA D, which one or two of our guys do you trade away? We have 6 NHL defensemen once DD and Marchy are re-signed and 3 kids in GR with no more exemptions. XO having the most NHL experience of the three. Keeping in mind, outside of a buyout, no way we can rid ourselves of E....not unless we can convince Nill to take him on and retain some money.
It's tough to predict defensemen. College hockey could help this kid. I trust the scouts to be honest. They must have seen something in him that they didn't in the remaining forwards. He'll likely be a late bloomer. He looked like he was 12 years old lmao.
I'm certain our amateur scout/s saw something - some 'raw' talent I'd say...NCAA is his best option - he'll get plenty of time in the weight room, and enough dorm food to feed half of China for a year.
With the 'Teletubbies' becoming popular again I hope we don't see another 'Sheahan' incident
Terrible pick. Holland likes to do this. Makes a good trade with the Yotes. Then instead of taking a better player goes out and takes a reach. Even if Cholowski makes it some day-5-6 years from now, others that were on the board will already be in the NHL producing. Oh well. Terrible pick.
Even with Chychrun - it'll be 3 to 5 years before we know what we got.
But yeah - this Cholowski was probably deemed a 2nd rounder by many GMs.
Get to watch Cholowski at Saint Cloud state!
The best thing for this kid is to develop at his own pace, and NCAA gives these young men ample time to do so (even though DD was never drafted - playing college hockey allowed him the time to mature).
Stan Bowman gave up Teuvo Teravainen to move Bryan Bickell's contract. Ken Holland went from 16th pick to 20th pick in the draft and on top of that got a 2nd round pick to make up for the lost 3rd round pick.
And supposedly Ken Holland sucks and Stan Bowman is god because his father was god.
Had to break out my slide rule, and abacus to confirm that this is an accurate assessment.