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#2325998 Should Kronwall have to answer the bell for his hits?

Posted by F.Michael on 19 August 2012 - 02:13 PM

Well that's what I wonder about in a way. Maybe players go after Kronwall after some of his hits because he's always against either skilled players or in general a team's point producers. The job of a top-four dman like Kronwall is to defend against a team's best players. Is the complaint that players shouldn't have to fight after a clean hit on a skilled player unjustified based on the game's history? Because like you said; in the past, if you inflict any kind of harm on a team's point producers then someone would get in your face. Has it always been that way and now all of a sudden we have a league-wide complaint about it that came out of nowhere? If it was that way for Yzerman/Probert-Kocur and Gretzky/McSorley then how or why are people so surprised about a retaliation these days when it happens after a big hit on a team's skilled players?

Now, I'm making a lot of assumptions here but I'm just wondering out loud.

From my personal point of view - the game has toned down the physical/violent factor considerably when compared to what was the norm back in the 70's, and 80's.

5 on 5 "donnybrooks", and bench clearing brawls were fairly common back then...With todays rules in place, and a shift in the attitude of skill over physicality (courtesy of the Euro influence starting in the early 90's) we are wittnessing the results; skill overrules thuggery, and whenever we see any form of "payback" taking place - many viewers are shocked.

Again - just my personal opinion.


#2325988 Player Haters (not so) Anonymous

Posted by F.Michael on 19 August 2012 - 01:51 PM

I hate Wendel Clark, he was a useless goon that only has recognition around the league because he was the best player on terrible teams. He is everything hockey shouldn't be, he was not smart, he was not skilled and most of all he was ugly and I didn't like his hair.

Couldn't disagree more...

He was the heart & soul of the Leafs...Major props to the guy for playing "Old School" hockey; could score goals, and stood up for himself, and teammates.

His last few seasons in the NHL were nothing to write home about; a bad back, and multiple knee injuries really slowed him down due to his style of play...I'll be the 1st to admit that he was rather useless in his stint as a Red Wing back in 1999...That said he's 1 of my favorite players of all time.

Wendel was a great player

Spot on!

What a great character Wendel Clark was? I'm pretty sure he's the one that got a match penalty for slashing one of the NHL's nicest and cleanest players(sarcasm don't kill me, I hate Bryan Marchment) in the throat.

I think Sports Illustrated compared Wendel Clark very well with Alex Burrows, very similar players.

http://sportsillustr.../content.5.html

Relying on anything from "SI" to back your point of view is rather weak when considering how poorly "SI" covers anything relating to the NHL.

I bet you get your salsa recipes from "Popular Mechanics"?


#2325219 Who was the best player on our 2002 squad?

Posted by F.Michael on 14 August 2012 - 04:03 PM

I miss Shanny.

Scoring goals, and punching faces.

Old Time Hockey :thumbup:


#2324967 Bob Probert: 2 Years Ago Today

Posted by F.Michael on 12 August 2012 - 10:52 PM

i miss pre-lockout hockey :(

I miss NHL hockey from 1984-1994 in particular...Although 96/97, 97/98, 01/02 were pretty nice too ;)


#2324521 Bob Probert: 2 Years Ago Today

Posted by F.Michael on 09 August 2012 - 07:23 PM

i love in his book how Probie speaks in detail about those Domi fights as well as many others.

The second time I read his book I would youtube the exact fights I was reading about... it was like having him do play by play.

It was very interesting to watch the all the fights he references, after reading his breakdowns of them...you see an entirely different tilt When your looking for the things Probe writes about that occured.

Definately a different era. the respect they all
had for each other was amazing. there seemed to only be a few dbags and it was universally known who they were and most the heavys enjoyed some of the beatings they laid on those individuals.

It's why I'm a firm believer that the instigator rule should be removed.

Some here who didn't watch hockey back then claim that the removal of the instigator pen would result in an alarming increase of tuff guys taking liberties on the opposing skill guys - anything couldn't be further from the truth.


#2323950 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by F.Michael on 06 August 2012 - 05:30 AM

Kronwall, Quincey, and Ericsson are better
Smith and Kindl might be
Solid +/-??? He was a -21 last year and is -54 in his career

Kronwall I can agree with, but Quincey, and Ericsson - no way.

As Dobbles rightfully pointed out - JBo plays top pairing minutes; plays against the other teams top line; has had "so-so" defense partners in the past few years; he's on a rather "so-so" Flames.

The guy has a ton of skill, but isn't physical enough, nor generates enough offense to meet the critics high expectations courtesy of his bloated contract.

With all that said - his 2 years left isn't as big of a anchor on the shoulders of Holland as some would think, and he does have the athletic prowess to play the puck possession game that Detroit will most likely keep playing for some time.

EDIT - it's been beaten to death, but the whole +/- stat may not always indicate the true qualities a certain player could bring to any NHL franchise.


#2322477 Semin signs one year, $7m deal with Carolina

Posted by F.Michael on 27 July 2012 - 12:28 PM

A $7m deal would have instantly made him the highest-paid player on the team. That's no reclamation project, and handing that sort of salary to a guy who has such a poor reputation and so much to prove would have been an insult to others on the team, not to mention that poison in the locker room is always a terrible thing. And Semin's potential to be a cancer in the locker room is almost certainly why Holland avoided the guy; Holland does not sign players who are risky in that area.

Does making a trade for Chelios (I'd never play for Detroit), or allowing Hasek back onto the team a season after signing Joseph factor into anything?

Honestly - who cares if signing Semin for 1 year at $7 large "insults" anyone?..Is this a game played by little boys, or grown men?..Is Holland trying to improve our beloved Detroit Red Wings, or is he sitting idle as UFA's sign elsewhere because he's too worried about what the precious stars may think if he signs someone for more $$$.

Holland is a top notch GM - no doubting that, but giving him this "he can do no wrong" moniker gets rather annoying because it's pretty obvious that with what's taken place this summer - Detroit will be lucky making it into the playoffs.

So what's left for Detroit? Doan and a possible trade for Ryan? It's interesting that Semin didn't sign with the Red Wings. Either Detroit didn't offer him a contract good enough or he didn't want to play in Detroit. I can't imagine why Holland wouldn't extend a one year offer Semin's way. There's ample cap space and virtually no way to spend it now. What would have been the harm in signing a former 40 goal scored to a 1 year deal worth $7 Mil? If he tanks, so what? You lose the money that was going to go unspent? Big deal. Low risk, high reward situation. I'm surprised this didn't get done.

Agreed.


#2322256 Semin signs one year, $7m deal with Carolina

Posted by F.Michael on 26 July 2012 - 05:45 PM

How on earth is it that he could be a reclamation project? Holland's reclamation projects are the likes of Cleary and Samuelsson: guys with talent whose careers have reached a nadir and who are effectively below the radar. Semin absolutely does not fit into this category.

Maybe Harold meant that a change of scenery, and an attitude adjustment by playing in Detroit alongside a fellow Russian with a great attitude, solid work ethic, and a plethora of talent would get the most outta Semin,,,Instead of a 60 to 70 pts guy - Semin becomes a 85 plus pts guy in the Motor City?


#2322252 Semin signs one year, $7m deal with Carolina

Posted by F.Michael on 26 July 2012 - 05:34 PM

:D at Kenny....he is fail. Epic. An off season that started out so promising too. Lowball some more players and GMs. Hey Ken, a player can make more than Pav, ya know? Damn him and his "team" salary cap. Enjoy this roster!

Well...As others have rightfully pointed out...We're gonna see how some of the youngsters from GR perform while wearing their "big boy pants" in Detroit.


#2321361 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by F.Michael on 23 July 2012 - 08:55 PM

He can, and would, here... Florida, then Calgary... I think that's all that needs to be said...

He would thrive in the Wings system, and I would put money on it, that if he came here, he would have better numbers next year than Suter...

Lets not kid ourselves...Very few Dmen out there can play in Detroit's "puck possession" game; it's a demand that many Dmen find challenging to say the least.

Bouwmeester has the skillset to play the style the Red Wings prefer - just that he's on a team in Calgary that prefers the simple/safer approach of using the boards/glass whenever pressured...JBo appears not too keen on that system.


#2321356 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by F.Michael on 23 July 2012 - 08:46 PM

As long as it didn't cost too much going the other way, I'd be all for it, just coming into his prime, he's been on horrible teams, and he'd thrive here, I'm convinced of it... Only 2 years on the contract too, so it wouldn't be too much to take on if it didn't work...

This is exactly what I'm thinking...

Many bash the guy for any reason they can find...Regardless of his salary - the Flames still play him as a top 2 Dman; they must see something in his game to warrant that amount of ice time.

Many also forget that Brad Stuart also failed to live up to expectations on 3 previous teams before joining the Red Wings...That wasn't such a bad trade by Holland now was it?


#2320687 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by F.Michael on 20 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

Maybe slamming Hank's noggin into the boards has had an effeect on Weber so much as to never wanting to face him again - so off to the eastern conference, and the Flyers he shall go :ph34r:


#2320347 Does Babcock walk?

Posted by F.Michael on 19 July 2012 - 12:19 PM

With the spate of Free Agents seemingly passing us by/the perceived inactivity by Holland RE: preparing for Lidstrom's departure, does anyone see Babcock walking? I doubt he does as he's been a big part of shaping this team and working with them to create pretty much HIS system here. But he's got to be pissed now. As far as I know from mainly rumour surrounding forums such as this one, he doesn't like it much when he says he needs a piece or two and the management say we're all good so can you see this, or another such situation soon, as being the final push towards the door?

He is probably the premier head coach in the league and could walk into any other team, so maybe he does soon?

Just what I happened to think of when I heard the Weber news, because if I'm pissed that we've once again missed out on a guy that was supposed to be at the top of our list, imagine how he feels having to coach...

I agree that it must frustrate Babs that certain needs aren't being met - however the reg season hasn't yet begun so technically speaking - there's time to fill a few holes - however the realist that I am I'm not expecting much.

To answer your question - I don't think Babs will walk...I'm certain he realises that in today's NHL acquiring players isn't as easy as some would think.


#2320172 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by F.Michael on 19 July 2012 - 07:57 AM

The only bright side of this could be that if the Preds don't match - Philly may have to move a player, or two to ensure cap space.

Braydon Coburn would look nice in a Red Wings jersey.


#2319769 Red Wings make "helluva" offer for Nash, no response

Posted by F.Michael on 18 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

You are right in that it is high risk, and for a winger mind you. I think that price is too steep, especially with the 1st rounder added in too which is what you didn't discuss.

Would you make that trade? I wouldn't.

If a 1st rounder were to be included along with Franzen/Filppula/Nyquist - then I'd say no thanks - too steep.

For all we know Nash may never hit 80 pts again, and Nyquist could be a 60 plus pts a season if given the ice time, and playing alongside either Dats, or Hank.

A deal with the Ducks for Ryan is more realistic; they'd want Filppula, and a 1st round pick...That seems reasonable.