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#2539094 23 man roster set... say hi to your 2014/15 Wings

Posted by F.Michael on 08 October 2014 - 02:15 PM

Helm, weiss and Kindl are as expendable of players we've ever had

I can understand Kindl, but Helm, and Weiss?


With Helm - I felt he was just starting to show us what he was capable of when the injury bug hit him, and keeps hitting him over, and over.


Weiss I think needs a few dozen games in good health before I'd toss him onto the scrap heap.

#2539084 How different things could have been

Posted by F.Michael on 08 October 2014 - 01:31 PM


Not sure. I was like 11 then.  Would make sense, since the Wings got embarrassed in the Finals and were likely willing to explore options to put themselves over the edge.  They might have figured Fedorov was the future of the franchise and was ready to take over for Yzerman.  Yashin would have been a lot younger than Yzerman and was another Russian.  Like I said, I don't remember, but I can see the thinking there at the time.  

Geez - I feel like an old man here.

#2538926 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 05:20 PM


The state nerds you know that new TSN guys who seem to provide nothing else, than stupid tables filled with math stuff instead of easy to understand (Goals, Assists, Point Totals) things. I mean, everyone can sit in the basement and play around with excel sheets they didn't need to hire someone for that.

I had to +1 this because it made me laugh.


Frank - don't you ever change!

#2538893 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 04:44 PM

TSN just posted a radio segment discussing the diminishing role of the enforcer.


They point to analytics and then fail to reasonably connect the two in any way.

What I want from my 3rd/4th lines...


Dump the puck in deep...Nail the opposing Dmen, and create those 'dirty' chances down low...Crash the net - give the opposing netminder nightmares...Intimidate the opposition with physical play, and create space.


I'm not asking for players who drop the gloves at every chance they get, but only if it's called for - then so be it - as long as it's not just for show, or a staged fight...That I can do without.

#2538876 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 04:26 PM


Oh, enforcers are better at some other part of the game than our fourth line?  What's that?  Fighting? 


Well that doesn't sound like circular logic at all does it?  We should sign a fighter because they're better at fighting than non-fighters.  Smart. 


Unless you weren't talking about fighting.  Which part of the game are enforcers better at again?  Taking penalties?


If the mass waiving of goons like Orr and McLaren this offseason wasn't already an indication that having enforcers no your roster is retarded, wait until the end of the season and see how Calgary did with their enforcer fourth line.  We already know it will give Krys Barch a boner, but outside of that I suspect that the team will stink and the line itself will be putrid statistically. 


But here's the kicker.  That's what Burke wants.  He want a s***ty team so he can draft McDavid.  And while his team is s***ty, he'd like to sell some tickets, so he goons it up.  This isn't a strategy to be a good team.  It's a marketing ploy to be a bad team but still excite dummies like Krys Barch.  Apparently it worked. 

There are plenty of players in the league who can contribute on any teams' 4th line that aren't strictly 'goons', or 'enforcers'...We had one last season in Tootoo.


Babcock has a standard, and if it's apparent that the player doesn't meet it - he won't play, but yet it does not mean he's useless by other teams' standards.


This was my point from the get go - however you wish to turn it into a 'enforcer' debate.

#2538868 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 04:11 PM


But that's kind of exactly what it's about.  They kill penalties and absorb some tough minutes so Datsyuk and Zetterberg don't have to.

While guys like Orr and to a lesser extent Tootoo would be a liability in those circumstances.

It's all a moot point anyway...No way in hell does Babcock dress anyone of the likes of a Tootoo, or an Orr.


So being worse is preferable?  It seems like you're arguing that because we weren't great at something last year, we shouldn't care about it, and make it even worse by adding a fighter.  Smart. 

Is that what I said?


PK is only a part of the game...4th liners take to ice outside of that...Try not putting words in my mouth.

#2538866 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 04:07 PM

I'm sure Drew Miller would prefer to play against Krys Barch 82 games a year too.  Who wouldn't want to line up across from a guy who can barely skate and only has a rudimentary understanding of how to actually play the game of hockey? 


Glendening and Andersson?  Yes, yes they do. 

Well - being 12th in the league while on the pk is respectable...I'll give you that.

#2538864 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 04:01 PM


Yeah because our fourth line is so good at well....nothing ?

Yeah - pretty much - other than biding time until our top line catches their breath.

#2538851 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 03:47 PM

In all honesty I would rather play against Drew Miller 82 games a year vs Colton Orr or Jordan Toottoo.

#2538764 Blast from the Past

Posted by F.Michael on 07 October 2014 - 01:15 PM



A part of me wishes that NHL contracts still look like that.


Looks like there's some other cool old stuff in the bag in the first picture too.

Yeah - we'd have no cap issues if the players had 1972 salaries :lol:

#2538160 Question about song

Posted by F.Michael on 03 October 2014 - 02:11 PM

Thank you kind sir... you truly saved my day! I would have sat here trying every method possible to figure it out I knew it sounded familiar! 

You're welcome.


See forum members - we enforcer junkies/knuckle draggers do serve a purpose...We're team players.

#2538158 Question about song

Posted by F.Michael on 03 October 2014 - 02:05 PM

It's the Red Wings intro from a few years back...




More specifically - it's a tune from the movie which starred Clint Eastwood 'The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly' - it's called Ecstasy of Gold...


#2538151 Holland interview with Mickey comment about a trade

Posted by F.Michael on 03 October 2014 - 01:32 PM

The Wings just need to go with this on the back end. Keep one of Kindl/Lashoff as the 7th D man, and promote either Ouellet or Jensen. Try and trade (or at worst, waive) Kindl/Lashoff and just get on with it already. 



If there's no trade to be made in order to improve our defense - then I'd prefer to see some of our youth from GR be used instead of Kindl/Lashoff...It's about time we see what these guys are capable of.

#2537403 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by F.Michael on 26 September 2014 - 04:41 PM

I don't think it was a dirty hit, but it would make me feel better if we had someone stand up for our guys.  Like how Hoggan did when Farnham ran Ouellet.  It's camaraderie when you know people have your back.  It might not prevent injuries or people running our guys, but it makes me feel better.  I don't even like watching the fights most of the time, I'm nervous as hell for the guys.  Even the other guy, most of the time.


It does infuriate the hell out of me when stuff like this happens and our guys are just standing around.




You cannot underestimate the camaraderie, and team bonding when a teammate steps up, and goes after an opponent when a questionable hit is delivered.


It was some time ago, but I recall Shanahan saying something along the lines of - 'I'd rather stand up for a teammate, and potentially take an additional 2 min instigator with the idea that my teammates will kill off the ensuing pp rather than to stand around, and do nothing'.

#2537297 Wings sign Defenseman Joe Hicketts to Entry Level Contract.

Posted by F.Michael on 25 September 2014 - 03:13 PM



I usually send out a press release.  But you LGW bozos are too busy reading about hockey to read them.  Hockey...the opiate of the masses.

Myself, and fellow 'knuckle draggers' only read the fight threads...Oh - and the 'funnies' as well on the back page.