Agreed... now that I think about it, he probably belongs on my 2nd tier below Konopka... just out of the FA's available, I like his game (when he's healthy)... I guess I should have been clearer that he wasn't any type of an enforcer, since that is what this thread is...
Up until a few short years ago he was coveted by a good number of teams for what he brought; big body, good hands, a very solid 2-way forward...With the injuries he's not where he was, but for the league minimum I wouldn't mind him getting a chance on the Red Wings.
That's where the debate gets sketchy... I will argue until I'm blue in the face that a PURE enforcer is useless in today's game - but a role player that can protect his teammates AND is a mid-heavyweight, or straight heavyweight, which can still be defensively responsible, forecheck AND give you 8-10 SOLID, mistake free minutes a night, that doesn't take bad penalties is invaluable and is BADLY needed by EVERY team...
most of the mentioned players in other threads fill this need, however, a Boogard type player in today's league, doesn't serve much purpose and basically wastes a roster spot...
IMHO the Wings could use 2, or 3 of theose guys; 1, or 2 of them on the forward lines, and 1 on D.
Yeah - I remember reading about that last year...There was another clown whom bilked quite a few current/former NHL'ers outta alot of $$$ (he was claiming to be an developer with a grand idea of a resort in the Cancun area), and spent it on a bash which involved dancers/prostitutes/drugs/etc and his invites were mostly ex-MLB'ers such as class acts like Roger Clemens
I think it has more to do with the fact that you specify 'gritty North American' as opposed to simply 'gritty'. It suggests that if there were two equally gritty players, one being Euro and the other NA, you would prefer the NA, based solely on nationality. Your stereotyping of Euros also lends to that.
If you're going to make generalizations, you have to live with the consequences. In this case, it means people assuming you have an anti-Euro bias.
And there is a world of difference in those two statements. The second implies the slang form of 'hater', rather than literal 'hate'.
And McIlrath will never be Pronger. Not even close. He'd be lucky if he could get close to Chara level.
Hell - even "Chara level" would be damn good...From what little I've read about this years draft - McIlrath is said to be somewhere between Derian Hatcher, and Chris Pronger...Anywho - the Red Wings could def use a guy with his size, and snarl on the blueline.
The more I think about the possibility of signing Eric Nystrom and re-upping Lilja, the more I love this roster and the more I do NOT want to see Maltby brought back - we're already tapped out on roster spots and pretty close to the cap under this scenario... so unless they sign him with the knowledge that they are going to waive him and send him to GR (which I can't see him being ok with, because then if any team claims them, he has to go play there, or retire, whereas, if he chooses to sign somewhere else, at least he'll be able to choose the team somewhat *cough* TB *cough*) - it makes absolutely NO sense...
Tell me this doesn't look like a damn solid and complete roster? **NOTE - Lines are arbitrary for formatting purposes** Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.920m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) Eric Nystrom ($0.800m) / Darren Helm ($0.640m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.550m) Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m) / Andreas Lilja ($1.000m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) / Chris Osgood ($1.417m)
ROSTER: 23; CAP:$58.8m; PAYROLL: $58.102m; CAP ROOM: $0.698m BONUSES: $0.000m