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#2504349 Ovechkin and ES

Posted by VM1138 on 01 April 2014 - 10:57 AM

Every team needs a high scoring floater. Ovechkin is a complementary player, not the guy to hoist the team on his shoulders.

#2504115 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by VM1138 on 31 March 2014 - 10:55 AM

You make it sound like legwand is a star ... Let's be honest over here ... Will he have a long nhl career ? Yes ... But for a first overall nhl pick he's a bust ... A bust in the sense that when you get a first overall nhl pick your expecting and hoping that player is a franchise player that will carry the team and be super dominant and he hasn't

Him being nashvilles best player of all time isn't saying much , that team has been good for many years in the back end but never had any good scoring threats upfront .... Again legwand is good but like I said before he's a perfect third line center in a very good team .... Low and behold he's on the 3rd line now and what's worse is our big guns haven't even returned yet

This is the whole stephen weiss crap again .... A lot of People gave me s*** here for saying Weiss was overrated from day 1 and yes it's still soon but so far we can say it's been a disaster

You can say whatever you want about jarnkrok being a future bottom 6 .... facts are we gave up on top 3 prospect for a soon to be 34 yr old ufa which is absolute nonsense ... I would of rather called him up and see what would of happened , I'm pretty sure he'd have more games with pts than legwand has so far seeing how he's done with nobody's in Nashville and seeing how he had experience playing with nyquist sheahan jurco dekeyser etc ...

He's gone now so all we can do is accept the trade and or vent about it .... I'm pissed but I accept that it's done ... I just want jarnkrok to continue and dominate so we think hard next time about giving up a top prospect in our system

We all have our own opinions and that's mine and it won't change



I'm really, really, really, really, really tired of people trashing Weiss.  Really tired of it.  Were you also one of the ones saying Colaiacovo sucked? People seem unable to separate injuries from quality of play.  Both Cola and Weiss are very good players.  But Cola was injured so he "sucked."  Not playing due to injuries does not equal sucking.  Because he's injured for a season, and played with the injury in a new system early in the year, some people want to say he sucks. At no time in Weiss' career has he sucked, or been overrated.  He's been overlooked for the most part.


Right now, he's an X-factor of sorts because we don't know when he's coming back or if he'll be 100% this season, but that's about all I think anyone can say about him right now.  If we look at his career the chances of him bouncing back look very good.


And Legwand is a solid top 6 guy.  Yes, on a stacked team it'd be best to place him on the third line.  In the sense that he'd be VERY dangerous there.  I think people are just not understanding that he's not a goal scorer. He's a playmaker.


In addition to all the panic about trading Jarnkrok, we're forgetting that we won't ever personally suffer from that trade.  He's on Nashville.  Even if he becomes a star, it's unlikely that team will ever truly be good, and we'll only have to worry about them in a potential Finals matchup, the odds of that happening are very slim.  So we miss out on a potentially good center.  Well, we can get one from Europe this summer (there's a guy over there who we're rumored to be looking into), or trade for another one if need be.  But I don't know if he'll be better than Weiss or Legwand for several years.  So it's not a bad trade.  Maybe a little overpayment but it was necessary to address the needs of the team, and it doesn't hurt us for a year or two, if ever.

#2501537 3/25 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by VM1138 on 25 March 2014 - 10:01 PM

What about breaking up the vets line? I know we dont want to jinx the kid line but I think it's safe to say Nyquist will score wherever he plays and Sheahan and Tatar will work just as good with Alfie on the wing.

#2501176 3/25 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by VM1138 on 25 March 2014 - 08:12 PM

I like Callahan, but he's not wowing me like the other kids have (minus Ferraro).  Good kid, keep working, but I think we've hit the bottom of our NHL-ready prospects.

#2500396 Callahan called up from GR.....

Posted by VM1138 on 24 March 2014 - 12:36 PM

It was my impression that Ferraro was never going to be an NHLer.  I think they called him up because he's out of options after this year, right?  They saw what he could do, which was...well...nothing spectacular.

#2500344 Around The League - Eastern Conference Playoff Race

Posted by VM1138 on 24 March 2014 - 09:42 AM

I have lived through two SCF with my now wife (at that time Fiancee) with us playing Pitt. We barely survived Thursday, unless the trip to the Cup Finals were on the line I would prefer to not play Pitt. 
On a random side note, we were seated next to Bert's wife on Thursday and she is about the sweetest woman I have ever met. Also got exceptionally into the game and was high fiving me with every score.

I hate picking poison but if we're healthy I don't see why Pittsburgh is so scary. We know we can shut Crosby down with Z. We have the depth to keep scoring even with Datsyuk and Z focusing on shutting down Malkin and Crosby. Their defense is iffy (as is ours), their goalies flaky and they melt down in the playoffs without the excuses we've had the past few years.

I'm not really too scared about any Eastern team over 7 games, as long as we're healthy. But again, I hate to get cocky and start dismissing teams but Pittsburgh wouldn't be a bad matchup.

#2500342 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by VM1138 on 24 March 2014 - 09:37 AM

Legwand has also accumulated steady points,created some havoc and plays with an edge that makes us harder to play against. Nothing against Jarnkrok but Legwand was a sure thing, unlike Jarnkrok. And think about our last games. Other teams have to focus on him, Franzen and Alfredsson, which allows Nyquist and Tatar to tear things up. I don't think Jarnkrok could have done that here.

We had to give up Jarnkrok. It's not like Holland just said "hey, take a great prospect, too!" when he made the trade.

#2499910 3/23 GDT: Red Wings vs Wild

Posted by VM1138 on 23 March 2014 - 08:13 PM

Honestly, none of our wins were well played. We're tempting fate, just hanging on until we get some stars back. Let's hope It keeps working.

#2499753 Gustav Nyquist Appreciation Thread

Posted by VM1138 on 23 March 2014 - 07:15 PM

Nyquist might hit 30 before the week is out.

#2498654 Injury Updates

Posted by VM1138 on 21 March 2014 - 12:14 PM

Pulk really didn't do anything other than the slapper, though.  Ferraro had some bonehead mistakes but overall he was pretty solid defensively.


Great news that Helm is coming back.  Please let him score like he was before Christmas.

#2498574 Gustav Nyquist Appreciation Thread

Posted by VM1138 on 21 March 2014 - 07:27 AM

I'm beginning to think the Wings may just pull this off. Datsyuk should be back in what, five or six more games? Helm should come back next week. Just hang on, guys, the cavalry is coming.

#2497645 3/20 GDT - Penguins 4 at Red Wings 5 (OT)

Posted by VM1138 on 20 March 2014 - 07:16 PM

Possibly the sloppiest period we've ever played.


Really? The Penguins had one great chance off a bad turnover.  Other than that, the Wings are moving the puck, they scored, and they're playing solid defense. I've seen far, far worse.  


Maybe it just seems worse because of the high end talent Pittsburgh could spring loose at any minute, but in reality I think they're doing really good.

#2497156 Maple Leafs 2 @ Red Wings 3

Posted by VM1138 on 18 March 2014 - 10:06 PM

We've got to make playoffs. We may finally get to see a fairly healthy roster if we do. God that'd be exciting.

Beat Pittsburgh and Toronto and we'll be competitive again.

#2496360 Franzen calls out team

Posted by VM1138 on 18 March 2014 - 09:13 AM

I like this. Franzen has turned it around this year. Even the last game, he may not have scored but he was finally hitting like we all wish he'd do.

He's engaged in the play. He's doing his best. But there is clearly a confidence issue. Every game is the same. As soon as the other team takes a lead, you see the guys slump on the bench. They give up and that is what Franzen wants changed.

I dont care about Franzen's past. He's bringing it this year and thay allows him to say this.

#2496238 Injury Updates

Posted by VM1138 on 17 March 2014 - 03:19 PM

I try talking about this with my non-Red Wing and non-hockey fans and I don't think they quite get how absurd this all is.  For God's sake fire the training staff.  And the doctors.  Somewhere internally staff was changed and that's the only thing that can explain this.


Grand Rapids must be pissed.  I imagine it's hard to keep winning when we keep taking their players.  But hey, at least they managed to make playoffs, right?