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#2454441 Cleary in, Tatar out against Caps

Posted by VM1138 on 16 November 2013 - 09:24 AM

Tatar apparently only played because Alfredsson was injured. And I bet he'll sit one of the next few games, too. Enough rotating of players. Cleary hurts the team, and Sammy has been fairly neutral. Not good, and not helpful, but he's not hurting. We've played enough to start rolling with a consistent roster.

#2454259 GDT: Capitals 4 @ Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by VM1138 on 15 November 2013 - 09:48 PM

Here's what will happen in OT:


The Wings will dominate for 3 minutes.  Crazy good chances and pressure.  Then, an intercepted pass will bounce out behind the last defender (probably Quincey) and a breakway will ensue.  The goal scorer for Washington will be the guy who has never played in the Joe before, probably on his only shift of the overtime. 


So it is written.

#2454137 GDT: Capitals 4 @ Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by VM1138 on 15 November 2013 - 08:20 PM

If Franzen has finally gotten whatever monkey he had off his back, I'm excited.  If he scores again in the next two games I think we can start to feel better about him again.  Imagine how cool it would be if Franzen finally found confidence to score consistently?

#2454120 GDT: Capitals 4 @ Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by VM1138 on 15 November 2013 - 08:15 PM

Tatar staking his claim. Get ready to enjoy the 4th line & press box Dano.


Haha, yeah, right.  Tatar is solidifying himself as the extra forward and a fourth liner with his play.  Cleary is the real deal, folks.

#2454105 GDT: Capitals 4 @ Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by VM1138 on 15 November 2013 - 08:12 PM

Tatar looks so good out there, even defensively.  His hustle, his shot, he causes chaos like Helm does with his speed.  And he has a fire in his eyes when he plays. 


Maybe I'm just looking for it, but Cleary, on the other hand, is losing every board battle, missing passes, making stupid passes, and losing foot races.  He just looks TERRIBLE. Babcock said he wanted Tatar to take notes from Cleary essentially.  I hope Babcock is taking notes.

#2453731 Cleary in, Tatar out against Caps

Posted by VM1138 on 14 November 2013 - 06:10 PM

I'm starting to turn on Babcock. Holland obviously made bad moves but I'm beginning to see a pattern. Our decline seems to have an inverse relationship with Babcock's growing influence on shaping the franchise. Both are at fault, but this is Babcock's baby. hmHis first few years were led by Lidstrom and Yzerman. Since then, we keep trying to implement some system that none of our players can play, and he continuously rewards the wrong guys.

#2453730 Patrick Eaves on Waivers

Posted by VM1138 on 14 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

Hey at least these guys can benefit from a winning atmosphere...in Grand Rapids. Sigh.

#2453570 An honest question about Nyquist

Posted by VM1138 on 14 November 2013 - 11:09 AM

I hear what you are saying, and I don't think that Holland will NEVER make a trade, I just think they will be few and far between.  Realistically, this team isn't one piece away from a Stanley Cup, so this really isn't the year to make a huge splash.  Let the youth develop, see what holes there are to fill a year or two out and I'm sure Holland will seek to build out the team.  However, this patient approach won't be enough for many people who are always in win now mode, which I just don't think is a realistic way to build a long term successful franchise.

It worked for the Wings for 15 years. You don't trade the farm, but prospects, unless they are a sure fire superstar in the making, get traded so you can get that star score to win the Cup.

It used to be every year Holland would look at the team and say "how can we win it all this year?" The last few years we've heard "how can we not miss playoffs?"

Wait and see never works in pro sports. The problem is trading has all but dried up in the new NHL.

Oh, and my argument has worked for Chicago, too.

Edit: I'm a big fan of getting (good) veterans or prime players and sprinkling young kids around them. Not waiting year after year for a kid to explode and save your team.

#2453549 Babs Finally happy about 2nd line

Posted by VM1138 on 14 November 2013 - 09:10 AM

Bertuzzi is effective up there. That may defy logic to some people solve he's "old and slow" but it is what it is. Our top line is set.

#2453541 Overtime modifications on table at GMs meeting.

Posted by VM1138 on 14 November 2013 - 08:45 AM

Get rid of the shootout altogether, no point for losing in overtime, problem solved. Not sure why they refuse to go that route. Teams will play to win if they don't get anything. There's no reason to treat a loss in overtime as a half win

#2453407 11/12 GDT : Jets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by VM1138 on 13 November 2013 - 09:25 AM

Missed the game, but it sounds just like the others.

Our biggest pproblems seem to be lack of defensive support for the offense and Babcock's last minute choices. I don't care if Lashoff and Oullet are rookies, they are more dependable than Quincey and Kindl. And how will players like Tatar and Lashoff and Oullet learn to play in clutch situations if they can't see the ice in crucial times in the regular season?

I'm not a Babcock water, but he has really lacked his usual mojo this year and last.

#2452148 Lines Thread

Posted by VM1138 on 08 November 2013 - 01:15 PM

Helm has hands of stone.  He's not going to be up in the top six for very long.  I love Helm almost as much as Datsyuk but we have to remain realistic.  There was a brief era of time a few years ago where it looked like Helm might become a real top six guy if he could get his scoring touch together, but he didn't.  We have to get out of this mentality that bottom sixers need to somehow elevate themselves.  It's probably why Holland though signing a hodgepodge of chaff would work out.


Helm is the best third line center in the league.  I'm good with that.  Keep Weiss up on the second and let Tatar and Alfredsson tear the ice up.    


Edit: But with Weiss and Franzen injured, I guess we don't have a choice, haha.  At any rate the second line won't be a defensive disaster, and they'll have speed.

#2452107 Are we faking injuries/illnesses to deal with the roster crunch?

Posted by VM1138 on 08 November 2013 - 10:55 AM

But his butt-busting isn't helping us.  He loses every race for the puck, turns over the puck all the time, makes poor decisions and is always behind the play.  Right now the fact is Cleary isn't doing anything, and is more frequently hurting the team than Franzen.  Franzen doesn't really hurt the team at all.  He just doesn't help as much as he could.

#2451848 Tootoo Waived

Posted by VM1138 on 07 November 2013 - 09:08 PM

DeKeyser also played youth hockey with Jim Nill's son, so they knew each other.  I'm sure that helped.  Other teams may have offered immediate icetime (the Wings supposedly had no plans of playing him right away) but ultimately, the draw of playing at home was probably the biggest factor.  If we're going to cite it as a reason the Wings lost out on Parise and Suter, we have to acknowledge it as a reason they got DeKeyser.


I'm not surprised Tootoo was waived and I'm not surprised he cleared.  I do like him, I was surprised when the Wings signed him, and I was shocked and disappointed when I saw the terms of his contract.  He had been making $1.2M per year in Nashville and was phased out of their lineup.  Why a 3-year deal and why such a big raise?  It's obviously come back to burn Holland.  I think he should have offered somewhere between $1M-1.3M per year, and if Tootoo rejected it, move on.  You can't pay 4th-line/healthy scratch players that kind of money.


Samuelsson is another story... he made $2.5M per year on his Vancouver contract.  He was productive (74gp--30g-23a--53pts, 75--18-32--50, and 54--14-17--31 in the 3 years) but missed some time each season, especially in the last year, split between Vancouver and Florida.  Although I hated the signing from day one, it's reasonable to expect that production should have (and maybe would have, barring the injuries) continued, even if it decreased somewhat.  You can blame Holland for that signing (I do), but you can't blame him for the lack of results.


I can't trash Holland for signing Samuelsson.  It made some degree of sense at the time.  But multi-year and NTC did not.

#2451668 11/7 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by VM1138 on 07 November 2013 - 04:45 PM

This has "disaster" written all over it. First home game after a road trip, against a middling team with speed, and a homecoming of sorts for Nill. These are the games the Wings forget to show up for.

If Dallas has a player playing their first ever NHL game, that seals the deal.