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#2321906 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by VM1138 on 25 July 2012 - 02:10 PM

Leaving that much cap space isn't a bad thing. It's been said numerous times, quoted numerous times that Holland is willing to wait until late into the season to find his man. He isn't going to overspend, we know this. Walking into next season with that much cap space can be deadly, but very good for us. Especially with the deep pool of FA in 2013. I'd swallow my pride for a season to cash out next year with the deep pool, no need to make stupid rushed decisions right now.


I get your logic. I've used it myself in the past. But realistically, waiting for the trade deadline is a disastrous policy. Nowadays the league is just too tight and by the trade deadeline only one or two teams are out of the race. There's very little chance someone you need is going to be tradeable. Then, even if they are tradeable, you have to put together a good package.

No, nowadays you have to build through the draft and free agency. If you miss out of the off-season signings, there is very little chance of the team making any improvements at the trade deadline.


#2320960 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by VM1138 on 22 July 2012 - 10:09 AM

Holland would be an ******* to sign Doan to some of the contract #'s that are rumored.


Well, since he's apparently not willing to spend any more money, and we still have $16 million, we might as well just offer Doan $16 million for one year.


#2319396 The biggest difference in the Nashville series

Posted by VM1138 on 16 July 2012 - 07:16 AM

Goaltending
I am not saying Howard was bad but he wasn't nearly as good as Rinne.
I can just imagine the s*** people here would be saying about Holland if we didn't replace Hasek with Osgood in 08 and lost in the first round and went more than a decade without a Cup (most teams go a lot longer than that)


I have to respectfully disagree. The goaltending was not markedly different. I know that's the standard storyline, but I made sure to pay very close attention because Rinne had such a reputation. Most of his saves were very poor shots by the Wings.

The reason the Wings lost is because we gave up a ton of 2 on 1s and we only took one perimeter shot and then went back to our zone. Rinne was good with some amazing saves, but so was Howard. If Howard hadn't been good we would've been blown out each game.


#2318524 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by VM1138 on 12 July 2012 - 09:26 AM

"One day, we might be able to bring a player of significance here."

Erm...we have 16 million in cap space. We're a legendary team. We should be able to bring a player of significance here this summer, not in the distant future.

I really wish he wouldn't say he's content with our roster up front. Yeah, it's servicable, no worse than last year, but last year wasn't good enough. I guess I can see him waiting to see if Brunner will make an impact, but that's risky.

But he seems to forget that Quincey did play last year. So we've only added Smith, a rookie, to replace Stuart and Lidstrom.


#2318361 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by VM1138 on 11 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

It's negative, but it's what we are all used to...difference is, this year he has $16M in Cap Space...he can spend it, but for some reason hasn't....He needs to s*** or get off, because if he waits and waits, then he is gonna miss out on everyone...

Doan now says he is gonna wait until the 16th? Come on! Talk about s*** or get off the pot! Holland, just offer Semin the money he would like for one year...continue to explore the trades and then when Doan decides to take off his training wheels see what he wants to do...This waiting for these UFA's is getting frickin stupid!


I realize everyone wants something to happen, but let's stop bashing the players, shall we? Parise and Suter took a whopping two days to decide. Doan is considering leaving the team he's been with his whole career and is obviously attached to. If Listrom (before retiring) was considering leaving the Wings through free agency, do you think he'd decide in a matter of days?

The truth is, the off-season lasts all summer. It's not a trade deadline. It's an ongoing process, and I don't begrudge Doan waiting two weeks to make a decision. We've got months to go still.


#2316511 Buck Wild?

Posted by VM1138 on 06 July 2012 - 07:01 PM

They have one good defenseman (and one or two borderline ones). Their goalie is middle of the road. These days, that could be good or bad. And their offense looks good on paper but wound up scoring the least in the league last year. They added Parise but I don't see one player transforming their lackluster offense. Specifically, they will have one very good (on paper) top line, a decent second line, and nothing under that.

They might make playoffs, but won't make any noise if they get in. Maybe 5 years from now they might have a one and done hot season, but no. They're just a middle of the road team.


#2316065 Wings hire Tom Renney as Assistant Coach (3-year contract)

Posted by VM1138 on 05 July 2012 - 08:02 PM

But I thought the Wings' allure had faded and nobody wanted to come here anymore?


#2316057 Quincey files for arbitration

Posted by VM1138 on 05 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

Everyone sees arbitration and labels the player as a villain, but in a lot of cases arbitration is actually a positive. Like others have said, I'm pretty sure it means he's locked into the Wings now. Once arbitration is submitted he is saying he will agree to play with us (or go overseas) for whatever the arbitrator says which could wind up being less than he wants. He just wants to make a case for a higher salary. It's his way of saying he wants to play for us but wants more money.

Not quite as douchey as holding up the team in negotiations forever and then bolting for big money elsewhere.

And like others have said, Quincey just needs time to adapt. I doubt he'll meet his full potential anytime soon, if ever, but he's still a serviceable #4.

And as for Abdelkader not filing, it's probably because he and Holland wrapping up a deal and aren't far apart in what each side is asking for.


#2315436 Is Mike Babcock the issue?

Posted by VM1138 on 05 July 2012 - 12:18 AM

No. The fact was, they wanted to play together. Parise signed first, with his home team, for considerably more than the Wings offered (which was under 90 million), and Suter, though he was considering the Wings, decided to play closer to home with an old friend.

Simple as that. We were in the final cut but family and friends and a little bit more cash tipped the scales. If Babcock were the problem we never would have gotten as close as we did to Suter.


#2313875 Jagr signs in Dallas

Posted by VM1138 on 03 July 2012 - 05:10 PM

Man, Jagr has just been a poster child for putting money above all else, hasn't he?

This opens the door for Ryan, Nash or Parise to end up in Philly.....not good.


I don't get what you mean. Jagr was a UFA, he wasn't in Philly's plans anyway so how does this change the situation?


#2313671 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by VM1138 on 03 July 2012 - 01:58 PM

This for sure! Can live without Parise... I am intrigued to see if Holland seriously goes after Ryan or Nash after this or heck even before this. I can imagine if the Wings picked up Nash or Ryan, it would sway Suter even more to Detroit...then Parise will be like...F*** ME! I should have picked Detroit!


I don't think Holland will pull the trigger on a trade so long as Parise is still an option and wouldn't cost us anything but money.


#2313498 Parise Watch [update x2]: Red Wings OUT of Running

Posted by VM1138 on 03 July 2012 - 10:33 AM

George Malik provided a bit of clarification regarding Babcock in MSP...


Right. On the day rumored to be the day Parise (and thus maybe Suter) make up their minds, he just happens to be going home. Right when potential signees might want to meet with the coach he's headed out to the middle of nowhere, going AWOL. Something doesn't smell right with that story.


EDIT: He may very well be going home but I find it very hard to believe he's not making a pit stop first.


#2312256 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by VM1138 on 01 July 2012 - 06:38 PM

Come on guys, you all wanted grit and agitation. You got it. Who did he have as linemates last year that he had a career high 30 points?


#2312243 Red Wings Sign Mikael Samuelsson to 2-yr, $6m deal (w/full NTC)

Posted by VM1138 on 01 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

I think people should relax and realize that this doesn't really affect our Suter/Parise sweepstakes bid. It's a secondary scoring move, one the team had to make.


#2311619 Ilitch, Chelios to fly to Suter, Holland to fly to Parise

Posted by VM1138 on 01 July 2012 - 08:35 AM

Great news. I doubt we'll see any decisions made today, though. I've been looking forward to the start of free agency, but that's all this is: the start. Could still be a long summer.