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#2434384 Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

Posted by VM1138 on 29 August 2013 - 08:31 AM

I think we all like Cleary. But as a role player. Babcock likes to pretend he's a top 6 scorer.

If we didn't have such a backlog of players I'm sure most of us would be fine with him returning if he was kept in his proper role.

#2432497 So the consensus on Shanny's #14 is a no?

Posted by VM1138 on 05 August 2013 - 10:57 AM

There's no doubt we all love what Shanny did for us. The guy was Wing royalty for almost ten years. But alas, retired numbers should he reserved for very, very special cases. There will be lots of fantastic players playing for the Wings. I feel like you have to really define the Wings to be retired. Yzerman and Lidstrom did, perhaps Shanny didn't.

#2431516 Wings Attempting to Re-sign Cleary

Posted by VM1138 on 26 July 2013 - 08:26 AM

Yup. Cleary was great for us. But his skill set has declined and while he still puts up points, I don't feel its an accurate reflection of what he can do. He wasn't one of our best players in the playoffs, yet he had ten points. I don't know how he got those points because he was never an impact player this year. He'd be good on the fourth line but not as a top 6 guy.

#2431144 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by VM1138 on 22 July 2013 - 11:43 AM

He needs to fire his agent.

I think you missed the point. Can do and will do are different things or there would be no draft mistakes. Brunner can be a legit 25-30 goal guy. He might not do it though.


I love Brunner on this team as much as the next guy, but Tatar should be a legit 25-30 goal guy.

#2429362 Smith files for arbitration

Posted by VM1138 on 10 July 2013 - 08:44 PM

Perhaps because the Wings don't usually have to go to arbitration with their players.
Aside from Kyle Quincey last season, the previous Red Wing to take them to arbitration was Ray Sheppard in 1995. Sheppard was then dealt to San Jose in the Larionov deal, if memory serves correctly.

Hudler did it in 2009, which is why he had to play for us when he came back to the NHL.

#2429311 Bruins Re-Sign Rask for 8yr, 7m AAV

Posted by VM1138 on 10 July 2013 - 06:08 PM

I really don't think any goalie is worth more than 6 million on a short term contract.  They're just not needed to be as good and they're too inconsistent as a whole.  Or maybe the money doesn't matter as much as the term.  No goalie should be signed for more than four (five max) years.

#2429018 Holland on SiriusXM w/ audio link

Posted by VM1138 on 09 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

So what if they have fighters? Who is going to fight them? As for being tough, that doesn't automatically override skill.

People need to stop worrying. They probably won't even play their goons against us because we aren't a cheap shot team. And you can't stop Chara from doing what he does. People need to stop worrying. The Wings have played and beaten tough teams before

#2428992 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by VM1138 on 09 July 2013 - 12:39 PM

Go over to the Florida boards.  All ten Florida fans rave about him.  They say he was the heart and soul of the team, he's feisty, is good on faceoffs and can control the puck.  He goes for the net, he's a great teammate, a classy guy, and is underappreciated.


About the only negative they said was that he's not super-tough, but he doesn't shy away from using the body or going into tight areas.  They also said his forecheck leaves something to be desired.


But all in all it sounds like he's a huge upgrade over Flip and the Florida crew thinks he'll be a fan favorite.

#2428961 Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

Posted by VM1138 on 09 July 2013 - 10:41 AM

Our new division is going to be a cakewalk compared to the Central.  Isn't the Central the most competitive division in the league?


The only consistently bad team we had to deal with was Columbus, and even they learned how to play last season.  Now we'll have both Tampa and Florida and Toronto and Buffalo?  I imagine it'll play out like this: 


Boston, Detroit, and one of Montreal or Ottawa will be strong.  I'm really excited.

#2428444 So.. what are our expectations for this roster?

Posted by VM1138 on 07 July 2013 - 12:33 PM

To those people saying Cup or bust, why do you feel that way?  I was saying stuff like that for about 15 years, but not anymore.  Roster isn't that good and IMO it's an unrealistic expectation with this group.  


We replaced Filppula with Weiss and added Alfredsson.  Is that really all last year's team was missing?  


I believe we can win the Cup with this roster because it IS good.  Our defense is going to be really good in a few years, but what impressed me most is their ability to lock it down in big games.  They may not finish first in the league, but the balance of youth and experience, added to their big game performances, makes me think they've really got something.


Plus, I expect big things from Tatar and Nyquist this year, making a potent third line.  Weiss makes our second line a good one finally, and a top line of Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Alfredsson could be lethal.  The only line that would lack an identity is our fourth, and it's still early.  We've got to dump some roster space, and maybe Holland makes unloads some contracts for a gritty fourth line.  


Look at how well they did this year with a garbage roster.  Now, the roster issues will be resolved, the lines are balanced and have identities, they're motivated, and they can only do better than last year.  


I know playoffs are a crap shoot, but does anyone really see any team other than Boston or maybe Pittsburgh posing a really serious threat to the Wings?  Boston got a little worse, and Pittsburgh is always a 50/50 flip on whether they'll show up or not in the playoffs.


I think we'll finish top three in the Conference, and make the Finals at least.


We'll have balanced, deep scoring, enthusiastic youth, we'll be more aggressive (Tatar, Alfredsson, Weiss [to a point]) than we've been before.  It's not an all-star roster, but you don't need one to win anymore.


Every area has been improved, it's hard to see how this roster wouldn't compete for the Cup.

#2428369 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by VM1138 on 07 July 2013 - 09:39 AM

Really, Alfie's contract is like 2.9 with deferred bonus, and the cap hit is 3.5. Can we please stop pretending his cap hit is 5.5 and saying it's an overpayment? He is still an effective scorer. Tgis isn't like the Modano signing. There are no questions about his desire or ability to keep up and okay the game. Sports fans are so obsessed with age. 40 is just a number. He plays better than most of the 30 year olds.

#2428368 So.. what are our expectations for this roster?

Posted by VM1138 on 07 July 2013 - 09:34 AM

Cup or bust. They could've won it this year, or at least made Finals. Now they are better, deeper, and more dynamic up front. Plus, going to a new Conference in which there are very few real threats. Finals at the very least, but after a few years' hiatus I'm thinking championship.

#2428365 Wings Attempting to Re-sign Cleary

Posted by VM1138 on 07 July 2013 - 09:26 AM

This is the sound of Holland s***ting the bed. 16 forwards (including Andersson and Nyquist) and he signs #17. Say good bye to any chances of there being any youth on the team.

This obsession with youth needs to stop. None of the signings benches youth. Tatar, Nyquist, and Andersson are all guarantees roster spots. Smith, DeKeyser, and Kindl are still there. We are not an old team. If anything, we were too young and inexperienced so we pick up two top 6 vets to balance things out.

Five or six second year and young players is more than enough for a roster.

#2428009 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by VM1138 on 06 July 2013 - 11:51 AM

I'll admit it - I dont really know him very well and I have been watching a lot of hockey over the past decade. He has never really come across my radar, but I am not sure if that is due to the "he's buried in a terrible franchise" or "he's got terrible line mates" or the dreaded "he's not really that good".

The one thing I have noticed watching his highlight videos is this: he goes straight at the net more often than not. Never going to complain about that. It will be interesting to see how he dishes to the 2 swedes on his line to start. Hoping for the best, but cautiously optimistic on this one.

Alfredsson goes for the net, too. We went from having no one in our top 6 go for the net to having two very good players who do just that. Plus Tatar's shoot first mentality.

We just became a more balanced team with greater work ethic, skill, and scoring ability.

Plus, imagine if this change rubs off on someone else. Either way we're better than last year with the potential to be really, really good.

#2427945 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by VM1138 on 06 July 2013 - 07:49 AM

The kids will be the X-factor next year. We improved pretty well in the Top 6, but not by leaps and bounds. If Nyquist and Tatar have good years on the third, and give us three scoring lines, look out NHL.