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#2378902 Official NHL Trade Deadline thread

Posted by VM1138 on 02 April 2013 - 06:32 PM

It's too early to throw Holland under the bus and question the manhood of this organization. Lots of overreacting.

That being said, being in transition is not an excuse for complacency. You still have to tweak and improve what you have. You dont just sit around and wait, or else you will never exit transition. Like Holland said, we need a big star. Or two. We lost on J Bo, wanted Jagr but recognized he would be a rental. It's not over.

#2377686 Mr Holland.....

Posted by VM1138 on 01 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

I keep hearing these top line wingers being mentioned in possible trades for Flip and I just laugh.  We aren't going to get centerpiece players for our scraps. 


Scraps, no.  But Filppula isn't a scrap.  He's a good centerman who is defensively responsible and has occasional flashes of brilliance.  He could be packaged up to get a reliable vet (Gaborik) for a team who needs a defensive forward or needs to get stronger down the middle, and wants to get a little younger or cheaper.


Filppula, White (or Quincey) and a pick could be attractive.

#2377212 3/31 GDT: Blackhawks 7 Red Wings 1

Posted by VM1138 on 31 March 2013 - 01:50 PM

Tired of seeing the Wings carry the puck for a weak shot from bad angles. Go to the net.

#2376306 Top 6 fwd next?

Posted by VM1138 on 30 March 2013 - 07:56 AM

I think a rental makes the most sense. It's going to be near impossible to land the perfect forward, so he will probably aim for a veteran scorer.

#2375324 Red Wings should pursue Jagr

Posted by VM1138 on 28 March 2013 - 05:28 PM

Was hesitant about him when he came back to the NHL, but he's proven he still has it.

Trade for him, rental or not. We are making playoffs and need more scoring threat.

#2374968 Iginla Traded to Pittsburgh

Posted by VM1138 on 28 March 2013 - 08:21 AM

I remember when there was no cap, and you could trade away picks and prospects and fill the holes in your roster with free agents


The cap is an excuse.  We did fine under the cap up until the last two years.  2010 was derailed by injuries, but was still a good team.  Everything after that was just complacency.  

#2374939 Iginla Traded to Pittsburgh

Posted by VM1138 on 28 March 2013 - 07:10 AM

I remember when the Wings went all out and gunned for the Cup every year...

#2374822 3/28 GDT : Red Wings 0 at Sharks 2

Posted by VM1138 on 28 March 2013 - 12:03 AM

Sorry, Wings.  You had a good couple of wins, but you can't take the night off again.  These games coming up are absolutely must-win if you want to establish yourself in 4th or 5th place going into the playoffs.  You can't beat the crappy teams, but you've got to beat the other middling teams.  

#2374458 Larry Murphy Fired by FSD

Posted by VM1138 on 26 March 2013 - 06:56 PM

Can we keep the talk about Murphy's alleged alcoholism to a minimum? I know it doesn't really violate any forum rules, and it's just an honest discussion, but we have no indication whatsoever that he has a drinking problem.  For all we know he's a teetotaler.  I'd hate to see LGW become known as the forum that dragged Larry Murphy's name through the mud for no reason whatsoever.


I feel like the speculation started out innocently enough, but it's picked up some steam and it's suddenly become no longer speculation.

#2374403 Briere to Habs

Posted by VM1138 on 26 March 2013 - 01:36 PM

Moved this thread. Concussion revelation means no trade, so really its not even a rumor. Gotta close this one down.

#2373810 Iginla may/may not have added Detroit to his trade list

Posted by VM1138 on 25 March 2013 - 04:33 PM

It's doubtful he will ever be as good as Iginla was. Iginla is a future HoFer. He may never be as good as Iginla is now, but he is someone who will be a good player for many years to come.



So you would rather have a solid player for years to come than have a player who can score 30 on mediocre to crappy teams?  Iginla may be "old" but he's got a few 30 goal years left.  What's more is the style of game he plays: the Wings don't have that dimension.  Solid players are great, you need guys like Cleary, Abdelkader, Helm, etc.  But (with the exception of Helm) there are way more of them than Iginla's.  Your opinion and defense of Nyquist over Iginla is fine, I'm not saying that, but in my mind it's absolutely worth it to get rid of a 3/2nd line tweener who will be solid for years if it gets us 2 or 3 years of dangerous offense.  Like people have said, he could replace Filpulla at Flip's desired 5 million and be a much stronger addition than Flip.  I think sometimes we get so caught up on long-term stability that we forget stability can sometimes only make you mediocre.  We all want to be good for a decade, but if we're constantly hoping that we'll be good "in the future" we never will be.  Nyquist will be good, but right now I don't think he'll ever be a franchise-type player.  So he's expendable in the right circumstances.


If we trade players that could be the next guys to carry this team after Datsyuk and Zetterberg leave for a 35 year old player, rental or not, we don't have much of a future.  Like I said before, we're not one player away from a Cup here.  How much of an impact is Iginla going to have in Detroit while the team is in this transition phase?  Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him in Detroit, but his best years are behind him.  Power forwards play a more physical kind of hockey, he won't last into his 40's like Lidstrom.  


Again, I like Nyquist and he will be good for us.  But we need to win now because there are too many variables that could keep us from winning Cups in the future, talented prospects or not.  All we need is 2 or 3 years.  Iginla could shift from scoring threat to Bertuzzi-like player if he declines so fast.  Teams need those, too.  You don't get anywhere with pure youth.

#2373705 hockey central mentioned wings should maybe pursue iginla and bouwmees

Posted by VM1138 on 25 March 2013 - 12:41 PM

I think that we are set on defense in Holland's mind. It'd be nice to get someone but we've got a glut of competent young defensemen. Maybe no one amazing, but we will be solid in a year or two. Especially if we want Dekeyser, Holland's trade do us will ve a scoring forward to make us dangerous to play against.

#2369958 Damien Brunner

Posted by VM1138 on 16 March 2013 - 11:51 AM

It's hard to judge a player when the entire team suddenly tanks.  Plus, scorers go into slumps once in a while.  If Datsyuk and Zetterberg can disappear for 6 or 7 games, I think we can cut Brunner, brand new to the league, a little slack.

#2368844 3/13 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Flames 5

Posted by VM1138 on 13 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

switched the flip off early, got lazy and gave up a bunch of easy goals to a bad team

So...the usual?  I can't let this get me down, teams win and lose, but the patterns of behavior that they've been showing the past two and a half seasons are disturbing to say the least.  Something has to be done.  How many "last chances" will some guys get?  

#2368415 3/13 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Flames 5

Posted by VM1138 on 13 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

I don't get Babcock.  Why start Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line at all, if he's so certain Nyquist will get a chance to play?  And why is Tootoo out for Eaves? They have very different skill sets.  Wouldn't it have made more sense to bench some other 3rd liner like Cleary?  Tootoo has been great for us.


I'm sure he has his reasons, but they're apparently none of the reasons he cited to the public because he's contradicted nearly all of them with these moves.


EDIT: And what do we want to bet "personal reasons" means for White?