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#2385284 Bert thinks he'll be back this season

Posted by VM1138 on 16 April 2013 - 08:17 AM

I agree he should take it easy, until the last few games.


If it looks like we could make a push for the playoffs, you get him in there to get a game or two under his belt before the playoffs.  I'd rather his first game back not be a Game 1 or 2.

#2385084 Bert thinks he'll be back this season

Posted by VM1138 on 15 April 2013 - 01:19 PM

Bertuzzi is an important piece of this team, even if he doesn't score all the time.  Our time of puck possession will increase the moment he steps on the ice.

#2384972 GDT 4/15: Red Wings 3 @ Predators 0

Posted by VM1138 on 14 April 2013 - 11:15 PM

Lots of positives tonight:

Cola, Dekeyser and Kindl were fantastic. Nyquist and Brunner worked great together even if they didn't score, they got the puck near the net often.

But biggest takeaway: the team hustled.

They have to keep playing like that from here on out. Haven't had a winning streak yet this season, it's about time to start one.

#2384529 Concerned - we might not make it in to the playoffs

Posted by VM1138 on 14 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

If we make playoffs, there's always a chance Datsyuk or Franzen will explode, and with the right matchuos this team could go to the second round, maybe Conference finals. Just so long as we don't meet Minnesota or Chicago. I just have a bad feeling about those two teams matching up against the Wings.

#2384428 nhl.com calls Kenny the best GM

Posted by VM1138 on 13 April 2013 - 05:17 PM

It would seem a lot of people forget that the Wings lost Hudler to free agency.. He scored 25 goals last season! That's 25 goals the Wings are dearly missing: Sammy's barely played and Brunner is basically a rookie, so it can't be expected of him to light it up consistently...
Also, Bert and Helm's injuries have completely destroyed the balance that would have helped the Wings's 2 first lines play together on a regular basis..
Finally, it needs to be said that Suter and Parise didn't pick Minnesota over Detroit.. They just went where they were offered more money. I would have hated to see the Wings jeopardize their economic future by giving 13M to those 2....

I'm tired of people bringing up Suter to bash Holland. Suter was going with Parise, and Parise wanted to go home. Reports said Surer actually wanted to come here, but Parise picking Minnesota tied his hands, because they wanted to play together.

So Holland did everything he could. It wasn't because he didn't offer enough, its because Suter had locked himself into playing with Parise.

#2382719 Why do you cheer for the Red Wings?

Posted by VM1138 on 10 April 2013 - 10:54 AM

Because I grew up on Yzerman, Shanahan, Fedorov and Lidstrom.  I love hockey, live in Michigan, and I take pride in being loyal.  I also love the puck possession style of hockey, which they used to excel at.  I'm pretty flaky on losing interest in things, but this is one of the few that has stuck with me, so I figure I'm a lifer.

#2382524 Damien Brunner - Value? Comparables?

Posted by VM1138 on 09 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

His hockey sense and on ice vision and his nose for the net are what makes him different from Brunnstrom.  That and the fact that he seems committed to the system.  Let's not forget his offensive output dropped not only when the team started sucking, but when he started improving his defensive game.


Whenever a scorer focuses on his defense, his goal scoring output drops.  He'll come around.  Hopefully by the end of the season, but next year he'll be in great shape.


EDIT: People also forget he's played like 80 games so far this season, while a great many other players haven't.  Is it also a coincidence that Zetterberg and Brunner both dropped off around the same time?  They're exhausted.  This is especially relevant to Brunner, who hasn't played this long of a season, has to adjust to a new team, a new league, and is adding new elements to his playing style.

#2382523 Helm might be out for season

Posted by VM1138 on 09 April 2013 - 03:31 PM

Eaves has a hell of a shot, I don't know why they don't use him whenever they need a winger for Datsyuk.  


Helm's absence is really hurting this team.  It's like night and day when he's in/out of a game.  I was hoping to get him back in time for playoffs.  Now I just hope he comes back someday.

#2380754 Concerned - we might not make it in to the playoffs

Posted by VM1138 on 05 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

 For some of us, it's not so much rooting against our team as being ok with them missing the playoffs for the greater good of the team.  Getting a higher pick in not just the 1st round, but for the other 6 as well would do us some good.  Getting a top 10-15 pick could be huge this year, and then 40-45 instead of the usual 25 and 55.


That is just silly.  The difference in drafting between 16th and 17th is not going to be huge.  We should always prefer success now to potential success...maybe....in a few years...if we draft the right guy.

#2380753 Going forward with what we have

Posted by VM1138 on 05 April 2013 - 12:34 PM

I'm all for keeping Cleary because he has heart, but give the dude 4th line minutes. He cannot compete like he used to and he is just too beat up to try and play top minutes. Sammy and Bert are a waste of cap, I would have rather splurged their combined salary and got a big body power forward. It is what it is.


I agree on Cleary.  We all trashed him because he can't handle top line minutes, but he's still a good checker or fourth liner.  Bertuzzi isn't a waste of cap space.  Right now, because he's injured he might be, but nobody but Datsyuk has hands like Bertuzzi up close to the net.  He's not 100% all the time, we need his reach, his hands and his every-3rd-game-or-so-offense.  


Bertuzzi is like Holmstrom.  He has a very specific role on this team.  He's not necessarily a 1st liner, but he belongs on a 1st line with Datsyuk.  He is what Babcock is trying to make Cleary and Abdelkader into.

#2379768 Nyquist, Tatar, dekeyser

Posted by VM1138 on 03 April 2013 - 04:37 PM

Well if we make the playoffs,  and everyone is healthy, I would go with this line up....


Filppula - Zetterberg - Brunner


Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist


Abdelkader - Helm - Tatar


Miller - Andersson - Tootoo









Kronwall - Ericsson


Kindl - DeKeyser


Smith - Lashoff










You better hope Smith and Lashoff don't get caught in a bad matchup.  A dangerous top line would tear them apart.  Also, Samuelsson should play over Nyquist.  I know we're all high on him here, but he doesn't bring any hustle to the lineup and he hasn't found his scoring touch in the NHL yet.  Sammy, for all his flaws, at least generates some offense.  And there's a strong argument to be made that Bertuzzi's hands are worth quite a bit on chaotic playoff hockey.

#2379761 Babcock loving this young group, Abby thinks any team can win it, and

Posted by VM1138 on 03 April 2013 - 04:30 PM

I know that any team can win it once you make the playoffs, but I wouldn't bank on dumb luck like Holland seems to be doing.


I'm not giving up on this team, they could surprise us and magically click and get hot in the playoffs.  They've gotten hot before (not this year, though, so maybe we're due), but not making any moves doesn't help us any.  


The strategy seems to be to muddle through as best they can.  We've got very solid players, but we have very serious holes in every area except goal, and all the work ethic in the world doesn't matter if we can't match up against other teams.

#2379688 Mr Holland.....

Posted by VM1138 on 03 April 2013 - 03:13 PM

I'd like to see a reporter ask Holland what his definition of 'transition' year is.

Because to me, that definition isn't 'lets let all of our talent age and leave while we hope somebody we drafted becomes a superstar.'

To transition, you need to get help. You don't just hope your young players getting good barely overlaps with your good players getting bad.

I agreed that rentals weren't the way to go, buy how could Gaborik not have helped in a transition? Pominville?

Our prospects are good, but we will be very lucky if one of them turns into a star. So most likely outcome is we will have a solid team for years, but without trades and UFA signings we won't be a great one.

I'm baffled by standing pat this year. Last year made sense, but this just reeks of a missed opportunity. It was a good deadline for a lot of teams. These windows don't open often in the new NHL. Is the UFA class so great this summer?

#2378931 time to trade filppula?

Posted by VM1138 on 02 April 2013 - 07:27 PM

Flip re-signing has nothing to do with Datsyuk. Flip won't suddenly be our number one center if Datsyuk leaves, and we can always sign a Flip replacement.

#2378902 Official NHL Trade Deadline thread

Posted by VM1138 on 02 April 2013 - 06:32 PM

It's too early to throw Holland under the bus and question the manhood of this organization. Lots of overreacting.

That being said, being in transition is not an excuse for complacency. You still have to tweak and improve what you have. You dont just sit around and wait, or else you will never exit transition. Like Holland said, we need a big star. Or two. We lost on J Bo, wanted Jagr but recognized he would be a rental. It's not over.