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#2223641 Nine Athletes who Excelled at Being Average

Posted by VM1138 on 08 November 2011 - 09:14 AM

Is it just me, or have guys like Draper, McCarty, and Maltby made role players cool?

Ever since the 1997 Cup run, when I played sports, I was ok being a role player if it was a sport I wasn't the best at. If I'm not the star it's fine. Just hustle, make my plays, and help the team win. The stars on the team appreciate the hard work and know you'll be there if they have a bad game.



They have. I've been teaching my ten year old brother a lot about sports. As a kid, he naturally wants to be the ball hog and superstar and when he can't he gets frustrated. I've used Maltby and Draper (he wouldn't really understand using McCarty) as examples of how you can help the team win by working hard and finding what you're good at, even if it's not scoring. He loved both those guys and eventually it'll hit home that being a great role player is just as important as being a superstar.

Maybe its because when I was growing up, guys like McCarty, Draper, Maltby, Kocur, and Lapointe were such instrumental parts to our success, but I find myself liking the "grinders" and "role players" and "enforcers" more than the "stars". They don't get the publicity that the star players get, but their role is just as important. When I look at teams like Washington, many will admire Ovechkin, Backstrom, and Green. I always find myself liking guys like Jason Chimera and Matt Hendricks. It's not that I don't like watching guys like Kane and Toews make amazing plays and split defenses, but I appreciate the guys like Carcillo and Bickell, who work just as hard (if not harder), and don't get nearly the appreciation from the media. Not so say the media hates grinders, but they are often left in the shadows.


It's a lot easier to relate to a guy like McCarty, who plays in a terrible rock band, than to Zetterberg, who owns a clothing line and married a supermodel.


#2223640 San Jose installs new boards at HP Pavilion

Posted by VM1138 on 08 November 2011 - 09:09 AM

You think they would have set standards to try and implement a system inwhich all arenas had damn near same setups boards and ice wise for more consistency in the league.


I like that they don't have a standard, though. Several arenas have their own characteristics and make it more enjoyable. What I don't like is how San Jose has copied everything the Wings do since McClellan took over, and now they seem to be the one team we can't handle.


#2222577 11/3 GDT: Flames 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by VM1138 on 03 November 2011 - 11:15 PM

True, but I always believed Hossa was the right choice long-term for the Red Wings. The bitterness of the 2009 playoffs doesn't change he's a far better player than Franzen.



Franzen had three more goals last year than Hossa and two less points. Hossa has a tendency to be invisible, too.


#2220800 11/1 GDT: Wild 2 at Red Wings 1 (OT)

Posted by VM1138 on 01 November 2011 - 12:16 PM

And the Jiri Hudler watch continues. How many times have they been down this road with him?

I'm not going to predict anything because they really should have won at least one of the last four (Minny, Columbus were winnable). But if there is a loss here, they're going to have do to a bit more to change things up than scratch the whipping boy.


For starters it appears Flip has been demoted to third line duties, so that's a start in the mixing-things-up department.


#2220475 Kronwall signed to seven-year deal

Posted by VM1138 on 31 October 2011 - 10:32 AM

The man wants to be a Red Wing forever. I couldn't be more pleased. What a steal! Good job, Kenny!! :thumbup:


The whole crop of post-Yzerman era Wings have really showed a lot of loyalty to the organization. Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kronwall, Cleary, etc. They're a great crew for sure.


#2220465 why this season will not be different...

Posted by VM1138 on 31 October 2011 - 09:54 AM

Line juggling can only take a team so far. It won't change the fundamental problems the team has faced the last couple of seasons. I agree that a firesale is unnecessary. But at this point what will really help the team more than line juggling is a bona fide second line scorer. Or even a 1st line scorer to round out Datsyuk and Z's line.


#2220215 Own success is our downfall

Posted by VM1138 on 30 October 2011 - 11:32 AM

Exactly how many teams draft a point per game player in the 1st round every year? You talk like it's just a matter of making a 1st round pick to get a superstar.


#2219097 Who would you pick to have back on this team?

Posted by VM1138 on 28 October 2011 - 07:43 AM

I can only dream about what might have been had Fischer or Konstantinov been able to play out their careers in Detroit.

Also some obvious picks: Gordie Howe, Syd Abel, Red Kelly, Ted Lindsay...

But if we're sticking to active players, I'd go with Sammy. Or Hossa.


#2218556 10/25 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by VM1138 on 25 October 2011 - 08:45 PM

Conklin wasn't great. But what concerns me more is that our offense just disappeared the past two games. No one can complete a pass and it seemed like there were 6 Columbus skaters out there at all times. Dirty, dirty loss.


#2217854 What's up with Zetterberg?

Posted by VM1138 on 24 October 2011 - 08:53 AM

Zetterberg is a notoriously slow starter. No worries, folks.

Every year we have threads like this wondering what's wrong with Zetterberg, and by the end of the season we have threads about how awesome Zetterberg is.


#2217093 Nick Lidstrom's 1500 NHL career game

Posted by VM1138 on 21 October 2011 - 09:33 PM

Let's honor him with a 1500-0 win!


#2217059 10/21 GDT: Blue Jackets 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by VM1138 on 21 October 2011 - 09:02 PM

Flip felt so bad for scoring that goal, haha.


#2215711 DiPietro out AGAIN

Posted by VM1138 on 16 October 2011 - 10:19 AM

Perhaps it's time to consider another line of work.


Yeah, he absolutely needs to retire. The guy is never going to play anything close to a complete season.


#2215690 10/15 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Wild 2 (OT)

Posted by VM1138 on 16 October 2011 - 08:56 AM

NHL.com says this is the first time since 97 the Wings have started 4-0. That can't be true, can it? I seem to remember them going 7-0 or something a few years back and making news. Maybe my memory is faulty and they were 7-1 or something.

http://www.nhl.com/i...m?id=2011020058

At any rate, I think this article is wrong about the "championship feeling." The Wings and their fans have won too much and too often to think 4-0 to start means much of anything except things are going really well right now.


#2215199 How Do You Feel About The Southeast?

Posted by VM1138 on 14 October 2011 - 08:14 PM

I have a feeling the Southeast owners might not like this plan that much. Not to mention it doesn't make any damn sense other than getting us in the Eastern time zone. Unless, like people mentioned, Florida will be gone season after next and they're just looking for a temporary fix until there can be a big re-alignment.

I'd hate that, though. Attendance at the Joe would drop. Nobody wants to see games against Southeast teams. The team would get soft cruising to an easy division title, probably with record breaking ease. And then come playoffs they won't be in killer mode.

This team has struggled with that killer edge the past two seasons, and that won't get any better playing in the southeast. For the benefit of keeping the team in condition to compete, the team better either stay in the Central or move into the Northeast.