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#1990951 Draper and Osgood Spotted Returning from Florida

Posted by VM1138 on 28 May 2010 - 08:35 PM

With as nice as it's been in Michigan going to Florida would be a bit of a fail but I don't really think these guys hang here much in the offseason. Hence, Florida trip isn't really out of the realm of the possible here. Think we're delving a bit too much here but hey, makes great thread banter.

We probably are, but like you said it's something fresh to talk about.

I'd hate to see Ozzie go but he probably has the best reason to. I think he could have a great season next year. Last year was a fluke for everyone and one more shot (actually getting playing time) could bode well for him and give us a great tandem once again. If he has the attitude to stay we need to keep him.

Draper...well...I'd hate to see him not retire a Wing but there's simply no room for everyone anymore. I'm not sure if he HAS to go, but with Helm coming into his own, is Draper's faceoff skill worth it? I'd have to go look to see his stats last year to know for sure.

#1990929 Draper and Osgood Spotted Returning from Florida

Posted by VM1138 on 28 May 2010 - 07:47 PM

Interesting spin. I was just told a story by my future mother-in-law. For the record, no one involved in this story is a hockey fan so they have no interest in fabricating a story.

Turns out, a friend of hers was on a flight returning from Florida and she sat next to Kris Draper. A few rows back was Osgood.

My first thought was: Wow, that's a coincidence considering Yzerman's recent appointment.

So, with what little information I have given you:

Coincidence? Maybe returning from a vacation? Why weren't their families present then?

Just going to help Yzerman get settled in?

Paying an "official" visit?

It seems strange considering that Osgood would likely want another starting job for a team needing a goalie to work for an old friend. Draper we all expected to stay, but with the new Tampa operation and Detroit not really needing him, perhaps Holland is agreeing to part with Draper to give Yzerman some veteran talent in exchange for a role player or draft pick?

Or is it all nothing? Weird coincidence at the very least.

#1987762 Does anyone think the Eastern conference can win the Cup?

Posted by VM1138 on 20 May 2010 - 11:02 PM

Philly could beat Chicago theoretically, just because they're an opponent Chicago hasn't played (super physical).

However, it's really irritating to see the lack of talent left in the playoffs. I know it sounds like sour grapes, but the Wings really got screwed by the refs in that series and they probably could have beaten any of the teams left (including San Jose, had they been allowed to play).

God, lame finish to the playoffs.

#1986961 LOL at the Sharks

Posted by VM1138 on 18 May 2010 - 11:04 PM

It is kind of embarassing that the Sharks are getting manhandled, yet they got lucky in beating Detroit. Just enhances my "paranoid" belief that with half decent refs the Wings would have taken that series.

#1984257 Crosby Should Get More Blame than Ovechkin

Posted by VM1138 on 12 May 2010 - 08:50 PM

Oh, everyone with common sense knew his great performance in the 1st round was because they played an AHL level team. Now he's back "among" the best, not "the greatest human being ever born."

And I for one am glad the Pens are out.

#1983377 Babcock: Improvement to come from within

Posted by VM1138 on 11 May 2010 - 10:10 AM

They said that last year and we lost half our team. It's just to keep everyone guessing. It's harder to get the players you want if the league knows you're competing for them. I don't expect anything major, but already we have Williams for sure gone, Maltby being forced out to play for another team (not official yet but Maltby doesn't think his odds are good it hear it sounds like). On top of that I fully expect them to sign a power forward scorer (if any are available) to add depth. If Lidstrom returns we're set on D. We can't make any improvements without losing Rafalski, Lidstrom, Kronwall, or Stuart, none of which are going anywhere. Meech and Lebda will be gone, for sure.

So yeah, there will be changes, just not a firesale.

EDIT: And Flip has been "at that point where he needs to break out" for a few years now. Time to cut the cord and find an impact player for him. Not saying he hasn't been good but he hasn't been what we need him to be. Flip for a scorer.

#1982845 Datsyuk to play in World Championship

Posted by VM1138 on 10 May 2010 - 03:35 PM


Rafalski was one of team USA's best players in the olympics.

I swear to God some people are delirious, or hate players so much they obsess over some little detail. Rafalski was one of our best players, overall, and he was the star of the Olympics.

#1981997 Let's Talk About the Refereeing

Posted by VM1138 on 09 May 2010 - 10:53 AM

Someone with hockey knowledge would recognize the fact that the reffing was one-sided. It wasn't like the Wings lost their cool and deserved all these penalties. THey didn't self destruct like the Sharks did in Game 4. They were very clearly questionable penalties and non-calls at crucial junctures that ended up deciding games. This is a problem no matter what team suffered as a result.

#1981690 if lidstrom retires?

Posted by VM1138 on 09 May 2010 - 12:22 AM

Wow, is this the best that's out there for his replacement?

Good thing he won't retire this year. Gut feeling from watching his post-game interview.

#1979921 WCSF Game 5 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 2

Posted by VM1138 on 08 May 2010 - 12:18 PM

Last game I changed up my ritual. I looked through some 2008 Championship books (specifically the parts dealing with the Nashville and Colorado series) and perused my "What it Means to be a Red Wing" book. I also broke out my Winter Classic jersey.

I will be doing the same things today.

Honestly, I'm trying NOT to get hopeful, but it's hard. I feel like I didn't respect the Sharks enough so I keep telling myself the Wings have a very, very hard road. So I, like the Wings, will only take this a game at a time.

The season could end tonight, it could be Lidstrom's last game (I hope not), so let's hope the Wings put on a show and live in the moment and worry about the next games later.

#1979914 Luongo Not the Answer for Vancouver

Posted by VM1138 on 08 May 2010 - 12:14 PM

The trouble with Luongo is the same problem many goalie-based teams have. They put too much pressure on a single guy, and usually sign a bad contract that hurts them from actually improving the team too much.

Luongo might do better on a team like Detroit or Chicago where the team is more balanced and he can blend in.

In Vancouver, it's basically the Luongo show, he's the captain, got an obscenely long contract (anything above 3 years for a goalie is ridiculous in my book), and he caves. But look at the Olympics, when he had a solid team in front of him and wasn't the star it worked fine.

EDIT: Hey, if Vancouver could go from playing well to collapsing, maybe it could happen to San Jose for....oh, I don't know, 3 more games maybe?

#1979766 Tomas Kopecky

Posted by VM1138 on 08 May 2010 - 08:19 AM

Wow, so much for all the false hatertude that this man has gotten on this very forum all year, eh? He has been dominant for the hated Chicago Blackhawks, eh? He is a large contributer to Chicago's success against the Canucks in Canada. How much do Wing fans wish they still had Kopekcy or, at least, that he wasn't a Chicago Blackhawk? Man, those Blackhawks are good.

Kopecky, is that you?

#1979172 Detroit is old and one win wont change that.

Posted by VM1138 on 07 May 2010 - 10:29 AM

We've been old and on the way down for 10 years. Eventually someone is going to be right.

That's what they're hoping for. I just don't get the whole "old" thing, considering we're not that much older than the league average. A year maybe? And that's only because of Lidstrom. It's like when Chelios was throwing off the average. One player doesn't make an entire team suddenly too old to compete.

#1975928 Nick Lidstrom

Posted by VM1138 on 04 May 2010 - 10:31 PM

I don't want to be the "I heard it from a friend of a friend" rumor spreading guy, so I will say in full disclosure, this next comment is hearsay:

However, a gentleman on my hockey team claims to be a good friend of the Lidstrom family and says their house has been sold and they are renting a condo for the remainder of the season because he is most likely done. Take it for what it's worth, but if true, that doesn't sound too promising. I hope it's not.

edit: I questioned the validity on the mere fact one was able to sell a home in Metro Detroit.

He's certainly capable of playing, but it doesn't look like he has the passion to play anymore.

I know, I'm no insider and I really don't want to claim to know what anyone feels inside, especially a legend, but has anyone else gotten that impression this year? That it's not his skills that are declining as much as his passion for the game?

Many players retire before their skills give out simply because they've done it all and want to spend time with family or pursuing other interests, even the all-time greats. When you devote your life to a game, as important as it seems, your interest does wane after a while.

#1975772 Babcock

Posted by VM1138 on 04 May 2010 - 10:06 PM

Opinions? I'm sure there are plenty of mixed feelings at this point.

Yeah, definitely mixed feelings in my mind. He's either the best coach in the league or the greatest coach in the league.

Not sure yet.