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In Topic: For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

19 July 2016 - 01:01 PM


I got to be honest, I hate this philosophy. This is the approach the Lions have taken, and it always leads to just awful picks.


If player X is way way way better then player Y, then sure take the best player. Buy if a D-man looks slightly better then a forward, and your team is stacked at D and weak at forward, you take the forward.

Pretty much Edmonton as well, no? Teams who have a style/system and who recruit based on that always tend to do better. So yeah I agree with you

In Topic: For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

18 July 2016 - 01:19 PM

Well for your first point, consider that most teams will expose their backup rather than their starter. We're "lucky" (but also unlucky) to have 2 starters. I know Howard isn't Petr Mrazek but come on lol give the guy some credit, he's a pretty good goalie lol. 


The second point. I agree we should leave those guys unprotected because I doubt Vegas team would want older guys. But at the same time, "if" there is a reason the Wings protect Zetterberg it would probably because the organization wouldn't want to risk losing the team captain to an expansion draft (that's a bit embarassing). It could set a bad precedent for the future players. And to be honest it might be pretty disrespectful to Z, who signed his life to this team. It would be that sentimental/ loyalty story we hear about. On the other hand, Kronwall doesn't have the same "prestige" as Z does so I can see them being more open to leaving him exposed. Plus his contract is up in a couple years anyway and with the knee issues I've been reading about - his chance of playing beyond age 38 seems slim. 


Back to that loyalty crap (and back to reality) though. Probably will keep both them protected. 


Is the only reason to shop him purely that contract then? Is there any scenario where it's worth having them both?

In Topic: For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

17 July 2016 - 03:34 PM

I have no issue losing Sheahan. We have too many centers of the same skill level. Helm ,Sheahan, AA. Larkin, Glendening.


But why exactly won't Howard get picked?

Obvs no one knows for sure, but I think the rules state only 1 goalie can be protected. Consensus seems to be that with the other goalies on offer, and with the other pieces that we'll have to expose, Howard isn't the option to go for. But we don't know how the Vegas team will value him.


Just read another breakdown which suggests Howard also still has a NMC. Is that right?


EDIT: Modified NMC with a 10-team 'no-trade' list

In Topic: For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

17 July 2016 - 03:22 PM

Been looking at these Expansion Draft mock-ups, and I'm wondering how Holland's moves this year shape that. Currently 'thehockeywriters.com' (not sure how good a site that is) have us losing Sheahan. No chance Howard (someone mentioned earlier about him being the starter in Vegas) gets picked, it just won't happen unless we trade before the draft, but with a lot of other goalies/prospects on the books for the draft, Howard isn't even a factor at the moment; Dallas will have to expose a keeper, Subban at Boston, Bishop most likely at Tampa, etc, etc (of course unless things change throughout the year).


The other thing I noticed from the article (posted below), is that we seem to be in one of the better positions with who we protect - Tampa for one are pretty screwed in that guys like Filppula have a NTC/NMC and have to be protected, same with Pitts and Fluery (who will have to waive it at some point or he'll be crucified - if he doesn't Murray is exposed to the draft). Chicago can only protect one player since they have 8 NTC/NMC on their books. We have one, Nielsen.


Using that, what can Holland do, and if he sat pat with the team we have now until the trade deadline/draft when he knows teams will have to move players to keep others safe, would people still wanting him to do something now?


LINK: http://thehockeywrit...-than-expected/

In Topic: Who gets the "A" when datsyuk leaves?

26 April 2016 - 05:04 AM

Abby and DK with As, Larkin with the C eventually. Basically just the Yzerman-Draper-Lidstrom dynamic; forward who leads by example to captain the team, two-way player who is a locker-room voice to do all the inspiring, defenceman who leads by example to keep it tight at the back. That seems to me to be the Red Wings way, only problem is with our current set-up none of the three (Z, Dats, Kronner) are really talkers and all try to lead by example, which doesn't always work when they have to do everything. Probably why performance has dropped off with each.


If he could actually play hockey any more I'd also throw in Franzen. Has more experience out of anyone left really, and can do everything required - play well and chirp when needed. But that point is moot.


EDIT: Also worked as the Z-Draper-Lidstrom dynamic too.