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#2321596 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by stevkrause on 24 July 2012 - 05:15 PM

You should be able to get Bo for the likes of Kindl, Mursak (or Emmerton or Miller) and a pick... Calgary wants to unload him, and the cap relief is part of the deal... That's part of the reason he's so intriguing to me, low cost...

#2321374 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by stevkrause on 23 July 2012 - 10:26 PM

Not for the contract he has. He's not bad overall. Just not good enough to justify his contract, imo.

How would you guys feel about Scott Hannan?

Wouldn't hate it, but I'd rather have Boumeester to be honest, even with his higher salary... His higher salary might actually work FOR us, as it would likely lower the return in a trade, and we could get him without giving up any big assets, that's one of the things I like the most about the potential of trading for JBo... We have the cap, he only has 2 years on the deal, so it's not an albatross, and like I said, probably low trade cost... For the right price, I hope this actually happens

#2321373 Mark Fistric Re-signs with Dallas

Posted by stevkrause on 23 July 2012 - 10:20 PM

One year... That means UFA next year... I would love Fistric here..

#2321262 Bobby Ryan

Posted by stevkrause on 23 July 2012 - 03:01 PM

No more "strong push"ing, IMO. No more kicking tires, helluva offers, trying really hard, pricing out, safety zoning.

Nike. Just do it.

Don't be a fool, it takes two parties to trade and you can't force your way into a trade, if the other team isn't willing to talk, it's not an option... neither is raining cash on a FA, until they "see things your way" this is not the pre-cap world... you don't cripple your team in the long term for a MINOR short term upgrade... stop being so short sighted...

#2321258 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by stevkrause on 23 July 2012 - 02:57 PM

I'd prefer Dirardi to Bouwmeester.

As would I, but he would cost more in a trade, so it's not an apples to apples comparison and doesn't really apply here... If Girardi is available and can be had for the same package as they'd give for Bo, you make that deal without thinking twice...

I have always liked him and would take him if calgary was moving him out for a reasonable trade.

Agreed and I think he could realistically be had for something along the lines of Kindl, Emmerton (or Miller, or Mursak) and a 3rd

It wouldn't be a very hefty package, you might even be able to get him for less than that, as you'd be taking on cap hit as well, which is what Calgary wants to dump...

#2321065 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by stevkrause on 22 July 2012 - 10:45 PM

He's a more durable Kyle Quincey with a bigger paycheck.

Despite his poor +/-, he's at least on par defensively, maybe even a little better, and better offensively than Quincey... It's he 3m more better? Maybe not, but I think we'd all be very pleasantly surprised by Bo if he came here...

#2321061 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by stevkrause on 22 July 2012 - 10:42 PM

Just checked, $6.68 mill/yr ... makes Suter's $7.5 look like a steal. If he could play like a $6.68 mill/yr dman, maybe but as it stands now, no, thanks.

He can, and would, here... Florida, then Calgary... I think that's all that needs to be said...

He would thrive in the Wings system, and I would put money on it, that if he came here, he would have better numbers next year than Suter...

#2321056 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by stevkrause on 22 July 2012 - 10:31 PM

As long as it didn't cost too much going the other way, I'd be all for it, just coming into his prime, he's been on horrible teams, and he'd thrive here, I'm convinced of it... Only 2 years on the contract too, so it wouldn't be too much to take on if it didn't work...

#2319638 Red Wings make "helluva" offer for Nash, no response

Posted by stevkrause on 17 July 2012 - 10:08 PM


Can we please put this to bed now? Also, those myopic posts about Holland not doing his job... Yea, you can't dance if you don't have a partner, no matter how much you try...

#2319237 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by stevkrause on 15 July 2012 - 07:55 AM

I will give this roster 10 games. If we aren't looking good in 10 games, I'm thinking this noise might be rumbling up from the stands...


I'm pretty sure the general population isn't as manic as this board and if it is, I will have lost faith in the rest of the Red Wings fan base...

#2319103 Homer

Posted by stevkrause on 14 July 2012 - 08:47 AM

Holland will give him a contract. Watch and see...

At MOST he'll give him a 2 way courtesy contract like he did with Maltby... And if somehow he EARNS a job out of camp, then he obviously deserves it... With that said, I still see him ultimately retiring

#2318906 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by stevkrause on 13 July 2012 - 10:21 AM

Lidstrom - no n

I can overlook all the other spelling and gramatical errors, but come on... he's a legend, get his name right...

#2318856 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by stevkrause on 13 July 2012 - 06:51 AM

Will your opinion of him change if the Red Wings don't make it into the playoffs come spring of 2013 - 'cause as of right now - with this roster - I see us finishing anywhere from 7th thru 10th in the Conference.

Not one bit - one down year does not tarnish an entire body of work and it's that exact mentality that has my so annoyed with the general spoiled brat mentality on here lately....

Holland has been an integral part of our brain trust for over 20 years and adapted AMAZINGLY to the salary cap era (take a look at how well all of the other previous big market clubs have done since this was implemented) and has brought us (or been part of) 4 Stanley cups, 21 straight playoff appearances (might I mind you the longest active streak in PROFESSIONAL SPORTS), countless division titles and most importantly, a chance to win it all every year... that is damn near impossible in today's sports landscape, and I guarantee 29 other clubs would KILL to have such a horrible problem on their hands...

Even if we miss the playoffs this year (which I don't think we will), Holland will re-tool and put us back within Stanley Cup contention in no time, and when we're a perennial favorite again, win even MORE cups and titles under his reign, the people with this mentality will still be waiting for the team to have ONE year that's down again, so they can yell "fire him"... It's laughable...

Might I remind everyone that during his tenure we've also recovered from unexpectedly losing Konstantinov (a perennial Norris hopeful), unexpectedly losing Jiri Fischer(who was well on his way to being one of the premier big dmen in the league), adapting to a salary cap era AND now, he is losing the best (arguably) defenseman of all time and Holland WILL, as always, adapt to this... just because he didn't pull a rabbit out of his ass, when nothing was available right now, doesn't make him less capable and NOT chasing after marginal players to fill a hole they can't anyway, IS what makes him even better...

I am not commenting on this topic any further because it's like screaming at the deaf and if those who disagree can't understand all these points and take them for what they are, I don't know what else to say... As I said before, everyone has the right to be upset this off-season hasn't gone as planned, but COME ON.

#2318791 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by stevkrause on 12 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

This is what it is like trying to talk to some members of this board right now:

Holland is a great GM. Period.

#2318761 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by stevkrause on 12 July 2012 - 07:09 PM

Your position seems to be that unless someone can provide concrete examples of players that were available, trades that almost definitely would go through, and would almost certainly improve the team, they shouldn't complain.

That's an absurd expectation. At the time who would've predicted that Holland could get Stuart from the Kings for a 2nd and 4th pick? Or taking the Kings as an example, who would've thought they'd get Richards for Simmonds, Schenn and a pick? Or trade a defenseman they'd recently signed long term to bring in Carter? And that both of those trades would be huge factors in their Cup win?

It's likely you would've shot down all of those trades as unrealistic or wouldn't improve the team. But who the hell knows until they actually happen?

If I could provide those kind of examples beforehand, I'd take Holland's friggin job. I'm not complaining because I think he sucks. I'm complaining because I think he's one of the best GM's in the NHL, so he better be able to come up with some moves that the average fan couldn't know about.

It's awful hard to provide irrefutable evidence for a trade that didn't happen. That doesn't mean I can't be unhappy with what Holland is saying and doing. For now I'm withholding full judgment until the summer is over. But Lidstrom retiring is something he and management should've started planning for 10 years ago. Looking at our blueline right now, it sure doesn't feel like they did.

Your position seems to be that if Holland made the move, it was the right one. If he didn't, it wouldn't have made the team better or it would've cost too much. The only thing I've heard you complain about regarding Holland was Ericsson, which you were wrong about.

For the record, you can't plan for what happened to Konstantinov OR Fischer, let alone both... Both, were, or were on their way to being, a top 2 defenseman, Konstantinov, a yearly Norris hopeful... Most teams would not have recovered from those losses ever, let alone gone on to win cups shortly thereafter...