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#2618860 Which Sweater Do RWs Retire First - Feds or Ozzy?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 03 July 2015 - 11:25 AM


I have a feeling Housley will be used as precedent in tons of arguments for players getting into the HHOF.  


Housley and Niedermayer are in, but Zubov isn't?  Lindros isn't?  etc.


I don't think Osgood should get into the HHOF for similar reasons that I think Housley shouldn't be in there.  Osgood had a good long career and was an accumulator, but was never considered among the elite. 


Cam Neely and Housley both.  One was great but didn't play very long.  He got Bure into the HOF and Lindros will likely join them.  Maybe Kariya too.  


Housley scored a ton of points, but was never an elite defenseman at any point and never won anything in his career.  He will get in players like Andreychuk, and maybe even Turgeon.  



The HOF committee needs to realize that a lot of these 1,000+ scorers from the 80's and early 90's are guys who accumulated these stats because of the era they played in.  That doesn't by itself mean Housley should be in.  He's in the Hall of very good (offensively) and I don't want to take away from his being a great offensive defenseman.  But his points are inflated, and his defensive skills shouldn't get him in the Hall.  I can't think of any defenseman in the HOF that I would choose him over.  

Osgood was rarely the best goalie on his own team, let alone the league at any given time in his career. I guarantee he doesn't get into the hall, and as far as I am concerned being in the hall is a prerequisite for your jersey being retired.


The problem Osgood has, as I've stated before, is his poor record in Vezina trophy votes as compared to his peers.  I believe he only finished in top 5 for Vezina trophy voting once.  He doesn't rank as one of the 5 best goalies of his generation, which doesn't help either.  


A very good goalie who won a lot of games and several Cups, but not quite elite enough to make the HHOF.  But you never know with the voters picking Housley over Makarov or Lindros.  

#2618684 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 02 July 2015 - 10:59 AM

After last July 1st us Wings fans deserve to celebrate these 2 signings!


I haven't been this excited since that fake thread many years back about us signing Andre Roy.   :hehe:

#2618428 Now for a #2 C.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 July 2015 - 04:56 PM

Are you living in the past? Abby hits everything that moves, he battles for pucks goes into corners, and is coming off a 23 goal 44 point season. Not to mention this is a contract year for him, so he may even put up 55 points


44 points is good for a 1st liner playing with Z and Nyqyist?


Maybe in a lockout shortened season it is.  A talented winger would have scored more than 44 points on the first line with two talented linemates like he had.  I won't deny that he battles for pucks and plays hard, but a 1st liners top priority should be putting up lots of points.  

#2618426 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 July 2015 - 04:54 PM


Joel Ward is good but he made 3 million last year. We can't afford to and shouldn't spend 3 million on a 3rd-4th line player.


Miller is underrated. He is actually a pretty big body, gently nudges everyone into the boards, and comes pretty cheap. 



It's laughable at how people complain about Holland doing nothing in years past, and now he goes out a makes some deals today, and some people still complain.


Holland signed one of the biggest d-man F/A's today, then picks up an UPGRADE over Weiss, for only one year, and people still aren't happy.


I'm 100% happy with what Holland did today.  Well done, sir!


I liked the Green signing and said so.  Not sure about this one.  I feel like we did this with Modano and Weiss.  Past his prime, small left-handed centerman.  Not coming here to score goals or be a game breaker.


Not as excited about this signing as Green.  We've seen this story before me thinks.  

#2618319 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 July 2015 - 04:06 PM

A good signing.  I know he can't play defense, but we have plenty of defensive minded defenseman.  We just needed one person who can actually move the puck and shoot the puck well. Kronwall has regressed with his shooting.  


Plus, Green is a right handed shot.  

#2618003 Free agents this off season

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 July 2015 - 01:01 PM

"@TSNBobMcKenzie: O'Reilly signs with BUF. Two year deal at $700K per. One way deal. That's CAL O'Reilly, Ryan's older brother. Guess we know who's next."

Oh Bobby, so misleading :P


I thought you were talking about Bill O'Reilly.  

#2617902 Mike Richard's Contract Terminated (Not Bought Out)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 July 2015 - 11:25 AM

What a wimp.  Pills?


Probert was arrested at the border with cocaine.  

#2617899 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 July 2015 - 11:24 AM

As much as Weiss was a bust here, Babcock didn't do him any favors by burying him. Weiss would have stretches of solid play, then somehow wind up in the 4th line, RW position. I can get behind the idea that Weiss being put on the wing was the give him less responsibility, but when he put up some points, he was rewarded with a demotion.

Always got the vibe that Babcock didn't like the way Weiss competed (didn't compete) for the puck. Cared more about how the player played, and not the result of his play. Same with Kindl, IMO.


Babcock buried Weiss harder than the WWE buried Diamond Dallas Page.

#2617749 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 30 June 2015 - 08:50 PM

Seems like Kenny gets a pass around here for this Weiss contract.  Terrible move.  

#2617394 HHOF #5 Lidstrom head of 2015 class

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 June 2015 - 09:44 PM

Why I hate the internet:




Chris Pronger. Best defenseman of his generation. Absolute offense intended to Nick Lidstrom, who was about half the player.


S**t.  How did you find my twitter account?    :eh:

#2617329 HHOF #5 Lidstrom head of 2015 class

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 June 2015 - 05:28 PM

LOL at Housley getting in ahead of Makarov and Lindros.  


The guy was another accumulator who played in a high scoring era.  He couldn't play defense worth a lick.  Not sure why he'd get in but Andreychuk wouldn't.  He's another accumulator.  

#2617328 New Coyotes jerseys for 2015-2016

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 June 2015 - 05:26 PM

I've never heard of the word kachina until now.  

#2617266 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 June 2015 - 01:56 PM


Please explain to me how Fedorov is responsible for the cup in 2008?


Indeed.  I hate it when people here try to diminish Aaron Downey's contribution to that team.  

#2617253 New Ultra-Enhanced Video/Renderings of the Arena District

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 June 2015 - 01:16 PM

Didn't they tear down Yankee Stadium immediately after the last season they used it?


Yep.  And built a new one a block away.  If I ever go to a Yankees game, I can't say I'm at the stadium where Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio and Mantle played.  Kind of ruins it historically for me.  


I have never attended a game at the JLA, but will definitely plan on going before the Wings play their last game there.  


Will next season be the last game at the JLA?  Or is it the season after that?  Anyone know?  

#2617201 New Ultra-Enhanced Video/Renderings of the Arena District

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 June 2015 - 11:01 AM

You compared European soccer not demolishing old buildings to na demolishing old buildings. I just gave you an alternate comparison.

They keep they're buildings from being knocked down, we don't.

They have ads on their jerseys. We don't.


Well, I wasn't comparing them across every issue.  Of course there's things we do better than them.  The ads on European hockey jerseys are even worse. The only point was about arenas. I like the older arenas with history.  But there's a lot more, obviously, that goes into it (like politics).  I understand why the city of Detroit needs to do this.  I'm just lamenting how there's so few buildings left with history.  The Nassau coliseum was a dump, but those great Islander teams of the 80's played there.  Same thing with Rexall place and the Oilers.  At least people went into that building knowing that's where Gretzky and those great Oilers teams played back in the day.  I've always wanted to see a game there.    


The JLA has not been around for 50 or 60 years, but 35 years is as long as you'll see in today's sports world.  In a few years, Madison Square Garden will now be the only old building left in the NHL.