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#2608440 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by wings87 on 18 May 2015 - 08:06 PM

Lilja will be there to break Babcock's thumbs and make him sign a contract for $1 million a year.  

You messed up the order... he can't sign a contract with broken thumbs.

#2608332 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 18 May 2015 - 12:45 PM

Here's a fun fact, Babs' last contract extension was in October, 2010.  By that time he'd already won an Olympic gold and gone to the finals twice.  And all those accomplishments could/should have been used in the negotiations for that contract.   


What's he done since 2010 that would nearly double his last contract?  Win one Olympic gold and two playoff series?

#2608124 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by T.Low on 16 May 2015 - 03:05 PM

I really like Babcock. 10 years is enough, and he hasn't done much lately. HIs Stanley cup and Olympic gold-medals were pretty much due to the fact that he was given the keys to the fastest car each time. Substitute other coaches for him in those scenarios and they are the winners.

#2608077 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 09:01 PM

Here's a couple of fun facts that nobody seems remotely interested in following and/or giving any special credence to...


There are four teams left in the playoffs (which are still going on):


If Anaheim wins, Bruce Boudreau has a better winning percentage AND as many Cups as Mike Babcock.

If Chicago wins Joel Quenneville has the second most all time wins AND three Cups

If New York wins Alain Vigneault has take two different teams to the Cup finals and won with one of them (just like Babs)

If Tampa wins Jon Cooper won a Cup in his second year full year as coach, after beating Babcock, the top team in the division, the top team in the league, and whichever team he beats in the West. 


There are a TON of really good coaches out there.  Some as good, or better, than Mike Babcock.  However the story of the day, every day, revolves around a guy who hasn't made it out of the second round  since 2009 and who's team isn't even playing anymore.  And acknowledge it or not, he's had ALL SEASON to decide whether he wants to stay with Detroit.  But of course he hasn't had all season to get flown around the world, and interviewed, and wined and dined, and written about extensively.  And that obviously doesn't appeal to a guy who wants to be thought of as the best coach of his generation.  Nope. 


Oh by the way, if you wanted to be the best coach of your generation, why would you interview with Buffalo, and Toronto, and Philadelphia?  Because those teams are all going places and we aren't?  If all he cared about is winning (like he says) then he would have signed with Detroit already.  There aren't any other positions available which have the track record, the future, the money, and the will to win.  But he hasn't. Why?  Definitely not because he's enjoying this.  Not at all. 

#2607970 Kronwall in the Playoffs

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 12:16 PM





#2606983 Kronwall

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 10 May 2015 - 12:43 PM


Did you forget the defense part of the position? The guys I edited are definitely not all around better then Kronwall and there is a still a couple other questionable ones on there as well.


LOL I'm not wrong about a subjective topic. 

#2606770 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 08 May 2015 - 02:49 PM


How would Hitchcock fare in Detroit?  Or is Blashill definitely the coach if Babcock leaves?


I think Hitch would fare about as well as Babs has lately.  He's a very similar coach.  And yeah, my money would be on Blash.  He's our John Cooper.  He's had considerable success with the guys who will be the future of our organization, and he's been excellent at every level he's coached at.  I don't see why you'd pick anyone else, but that's just me. 


Edit:  If not Blash, I'd give Paul Heyman a shot.  He knows what it takes to manage a champion. 

#2606095 Free agents this off season

Posted by GoWings1905 on 05 May 2015 - 10:51 AM

The Wings need a top pairing d-man and some size/goal-scoring ability at wing.


- This post brought to you by the years 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. 

#2606580 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by Mckinley25 on 07 May 2015 - 02:24 PM

I'd love to see Brian McGrattan do unpleasant things to that punk in a closet.  

What is it with McGrattan and taking men into closets? Does his girlfriend know?

#2606477 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by F.Michael on 07 May 2015 - 07:01 AM

Just imagine how the Wings would be faring against them right now. 

It's possible the Wings would be down 3-0 to the Habs.


Either way - I find it humorous. 

#2606003 At What Point Does Holland Deserve Blame?

Posted by number9 on 04 May 2015 - 08:48 PM


So you think Holland should trade away all of our vets, and a ton our our young guys, just for a CHANCE to land one of those top picks?


Look at last season, even with half our team hurt we still got in the playoffs. You cant guarantee yourself a top pick unless you just unload everyone. Plus, one player does not make or break a team. Look at Dallas with Seguin, or Edmonton with what seems to be all the top picks of the 2000's, you can have a top player and still suck. Tanking it is stupid because it guarantees nothing.


Orr - McDavid - Mcgrattan

McLaren - Eichel - Gadzic


How would that not be the best two forward lines ever???

#2605458 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 01 May 2015 - 03:50 PM



#2605085 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by wings7 on 30 April 2015 - 02:31 PM

I'd like to see the Wings use these "great" prospects that they supposedly have to get some real men that know the NHL and are guaranteed to play well for us.

#2605060 At What Point Does Holland Deserve Blame?

Posted by F.Michael on 30 April 2015 - 01:45 PM


You wrote more than you needed to.  My whole point is that Holland's previous successes shouldn't give him immunity at his current job.  Immunity is dangerous at any job.  If I had immunity at my job, I'd have strippers and scotch here every day

Hey - you better invite me!


But it's not just "past successes".  That's the point.  He's still a very successful GM, and his teams are still very successful.  It's not like we're stinking up the place, missing the playoffs, and competing for lottery picks. 


I agree that you should have total immunity at your job.  But you also shouldn't be fired if you don't remain at the absolute apex of your industry in perpetuity.


We've gone six years since our last Cup.  Exactly the same amount of time between our Cups in 2002 and 2008.  It would have been a mistake to fire Holland back then, and it would be a mistake now.



Be careful for what ya wish for...For all we know the next GM could somehow be related to Matt Millen.

#2604998 ECQF Game 7 GDT : at Lightning 2, Red Wings 0 (Tampa wins series, 4-3)

Posted by rick zombo on 30 April 2015 - 12:04 PM

Just watched the post-game interview with Babcock, it's up on NHL.  



"They went to church and we missed mass."  


Somebody should have asked: "Moving forward, how do you see the goalie situation playing itself out next year?"   


To which he'd respond "I plan on playing Fleury and Greiss about 60/40 respectively".