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#2212230 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 04 October 2011 - 08:53 PM

I know what you mean, an example of this could be Ottawa. The Sens probably won't have much else going for them this year, but with Chris Neil, Zack Smith, Zenon Konopka, and eventually Matt Carkner in their lineup, they won't be getting pushed around. At the same time, Chicago is a contending team, and we saw them pick up Dan Carcillo and Jamal Mayers, instead of finesse forwards that would have definitely produced more offense, such as Sergei Samsonov, who was available. Los Angeles is a contending team that we saw get Ethan Moreau as opposed to a guy like Brunnstrom (who was available at the time, as well), who clearly has more offensive potential. In addition, Kevin Westgarth just signed a 2-year extension with them. I don't think the GM of a contending team would waste a roster spot and cap space on someone they didn't feel helped the team.


You forgot to mention Lilja going to the Flyers.


#2212121 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 04 October 2011 - 11:53 AM

Fighting just isn't important anymore. If they* take out the stupid instigator penalty I can see the point of an enforcer with it's impact. But that's just not the case anymore.


Like I said, tell that to all the GM's in the NHL who have enforcers on their roster. For that matter, tell it to Babcock, who dressed guys like Brad May and Aaron Downey, in favor of more talented players in the minors. I'm sure Babcock did it for ratings, though. :rolleyes:

If the team sucks and they need to draw in fans, in the end, the team owner has final say on who plays and if he wants a few extra bucks, you'll see a goon out there at the expense of a skilled forward.


That doesn't explain anything. Most teams in the league have some kind of tough guy. Are they all having trouble filling seats?

For instance, I don't think the Pens are having trouble drawing fans, and they dressed Godard a lot in the past, and recently signed MacIntyre. Chicago dresses John Scott on their blueline, who skates as well as I do. Are they struggling to fill the United Center? Those teams certainly don't suck. Neither do the Bruins, who dress Thornton a lot, or the Capitals, who frequently play Erskine.

I've never heard of a team owner telling the GM and coach to sign a tough guy just to put people in the seats. Not at the NHL level and certainly not nowadays. Are you making this stuff up? I just don't believe it.


#2212046 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 03 October 2011 - 10:33 PM

It's a purely entertainment decision. It has zero impact on making the team better on the ice.


Bullcrap.

NHL teams wouldn't sacrifice winning and losing just for entertainment and sideshow antics. This isn't the bush leagues.

I've yet to hear a person here on LGW give me a good response to what I posted. Yours was a common one, but it doesn't hold much weight. Coaches and GM's aren't going to make training camp roster decisions just for show.


#2212042 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 03 October 2011 - 10:11 PM

People are quick to point out incidents where fighting didn't deter something cheap, but ignore the many situations where a cheapshot may have been averted because of having a tough guy in the lineup.

I don't think every GM in the league who signs and dresses a tough guy is a dumb ass, while the anti-enforcer people here on LGW are hockey geniuses.

Don't forget that most teams have some sort of tough guy in the lineup, who's taking a roster spot away from a more talented player.


#2212025 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 03 October 2011 - 08:06 PM

Back a couple decades ago it had a purpose. You'd put a goon with skill on a stars line and they'd protect that start with their fighting while not completely hampering things. Fighting doesn't really serve a purpose these days besides an entertainment value. Fight slappies will protest that it curbs dirty plays, which it doesn't, well not anymore at least. They'll bring up "the brawl" of almost 15 years ago and talk about how it changed our team to what it is now. It did change the dynamic of the team, but that is a one instance thing. A one instance sample size is a terrible sample size.

Other players and fans from other teams contend that Kronwall's hits are all dirty, how many fights has he been in? Look at the dirty hits from this past season and this pre-season, really looks like goons and fighters really curbed those. Having Downey in the line-up really stopped Lappy from elbowing our star DMan in the head. Fighting doesn't prevent anything.

With that said, i like when players stand up for themselves and want to throw down ala Abby trying to go after Mac. Or when people went after Cooke for cheapshotting Savard and Savard couldn't do anything. It's purpose is to stick up for temmates after an injustice, but today scrums happen after clean hits, and those need to go.


Enforcers help toughen up soft Euros over the course of a season.


#2211840 Pre-Season Line Hopes

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 03 October 2011 - 11:30 AM

Thanks for letting us on to the fact that you had a prior account. It lends itself to some interesting speculation as to why you felt it was necessary to begin posting under a new identity. Would you care to shed any light on this?


So what?

I used to post as mindfly and JakeRyan, and no one seemed to have a problem with it.


There's been a lot of tension here the last couple of days with the season approaching. These GDT's are gonna be fun this year. :D


#2211712 Gustav Nyquist

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 02 October 2011 - 08:12 PM

Not only does he make the team, but he plays on the top line all season.

What an achievement.

And with Homer on the line to boot.

I hope Datsyuk doesn't die of exhaustion by the end of October if that's the case.


#2211621 4 Players Will be Waived on Monday, 8 Assigned to GR

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 02 October 2011 - 04:26 PM

No Ericsson?

What a shame.


#2211550 No-touch icing

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 02 October 2011 - 11:11 AM

Doesn't the CHL have no-tough icing?

So players here in North America are accustomed to it at a young age.


#2211436 10/1 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Toronto Maple Leafs

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 October 2011 - 07:29 PM

Wow, this is better than our regular powerplay.

Just send guys to the net and shoot it from the point. No fancy s***.


#2211423 10/1 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Toronto Maple Leafs

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 October 2011 - 07:03 PM

Good thing Babcock doesn't think like that.

Glad we have a great team and not some goon team.


Not tonight we don't. ;)


#2211417 10/1 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Toronto Maple Leafs

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 October 2011 - 06:59 PM

Nah, Exelby is already costing us by taking penalities.

Helm seems to be doing just fine as is, no need a player to sit in the box for 5 minutes.


God, you're like Ned Braden in Slapshot, who refused to fight.

I'd bench your ass if I was coaching.


#2211411 10/1 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Toronto Maple Leafs

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 October 2011 - 06:50 PM

Someone needs to fight Komisarek.

He's a big enough ***** where pretty much any of our tough guys can take him.


#2211316 Pre-Season Line Hopes

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 October 2011 - 03:04 PM

He says that Bertuzzi isn't physical enough to be on a checking line, then he puts Hudler on.........you guessed it, a checking line.

:lol:


#2211248 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 October 2011 - 12:28 PM

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the fight thread!