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#2209653 Mursak is out

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 25 September 2011 - 06:54 PM

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#2209531 Filppula is "too nice".

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 25 September 2011 - 12:42 PM

Filppula's favorite Die Hard line.........

"Shoot the Glass!" :hehe:


#2208906 Mike Modano announces retirement

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 22 September 2011 - 05:53 PM


Ah, you're right. I did leave Hull off. That does push Modano out of the top five.

And btw, Frank Brimsek was one of the top two goaltenders in the NHL in the first eight of his ten seasons, missing two years during that span because of Coast Guard service. Modano is not even CLOSE to that.

Modano scored more points than LaFontaine, but LaFontaine's career ended early due to concussions. LaFontaine was considered among the top few centers in the league for a long time when Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, and Messier were all in their primes. Modano didn't have competition nearly that stiff, and still spent less time near the top. His peak was also not as high. The only thing Modano might have had on LaFontaine is defensive play. And even that only came in a short five or six year span of Modano's career in the late 1990s and early 2000s; he was terrible defensively early on and for the last few years of his career.

Howe played at the same level through the 80s as Ray Bourque and Paul Coffey, both generally considered top-ten all-time defensemen and both in their prime.

Chelios won multiple Norrises and contended for many others, and was considered one of the league's top defensemen for fifteen years.

Hull actually has more 17 points in 230 fewer games, but is not American-born so Modano is still technically the leader in that category. Hull also has a Hart trophy and a Pearson award, while Modano has a Calder trophy.

So depending on whether you include Hull, Modano is either the fifth or sixth greatest American hockey player.


Longevity is a part of the game. LaFontaine did have his career end early, while Modano played on and continued to excel. That gives Modano a notch over LaFontaine in my book, whether it's partially luck related or not. Also, you have to remember that LaFontaine padded his stats somewhat from playing in the 80's, where guys scored more often. Modano in his prime in the 80's would have put up similar numbers.

And Modano did have stiff competition at his position. Sure, he didn't have Gretzky or Lemieux, but he had Sakic, Fedorov, Lindros, Yzerman, Forsberg, Sundin, etc. Those are some pretty damn good centers and will all likely be in the HOF someday.

You say defensive play is all he had over LaFontaine? How about skating? Modano could skate as well as any player in hockey history. He also had a cannon for a wrist shot, slap shot, one-timer and one of the best backhands in the game ever. Also, he was the face of a franchise for several decades and was usually their most feared offensive player.


#2208799 Mike Modano announces retirement

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 22 September 2011 - 10:58 AM

Interesting.

He wasn't better than Chris Chelios. He wasn't better than Mark Howe. He wasn't better than Frank Brimsek. He wasn't better than Pat LaFontaine. I'd probably put him fifth though, just ahead of Beezer and Barrasso. Ryan Miller is quickly moving up that list though.


His career accomplishments exceed anyone besides Chelios, imo.

His talent level is ahead of all those players for that matter.


#2208724 9/21 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 3

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 21 September 2011 - 08:43 PM

After watching this game, it's painfully obvious to me that Detroit doesn't have what it takes to compete with the upper echelon teams in the sport.

And the Pens didn't even have Crosby. :o


#2208535 9/21 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 3

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 21 September 2011 - 06:28 PM

Softf****** goal.

Put Ozzie in.


#2208492 Mike Modano announces retirement

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 21 September 2011 - 05:42 PM

Second greatest American hockey player of all time.

And whether you people like it or not, he should have retired last season and played his whole career with one franchise. He wasn't sure that he wanted to come back, and the indecision should have been enough for him to say no.


#2208343 Maybe it's Homer that gets sent down?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 20 September 2011 - 07:30 PM

This is very possibly the single most ridiculous thread I have ever read on LGW and that's some steep competition...


I've seen much worse.

Also, there was that "Trade Datsyuk" thread that I never got around to starting.


#2208204 Riley Shean is built

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 September 2011 - 09:18 PM

We don't really need him now that Hudler has taken UFC lessons.


#2208139 9/19 NHL Pre-Season GDT

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 September 2011 - 02:35 PM

Is the NHL Network done showing every game in the playoffs idiotically for 3 months?


#2207958 Tampa Bay to have no fighting policy in training camp

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 17 September 2011 - 10:37 AM

Fighting one another fosters "team toughness"

:thumbup:


#2207846 Yet another lawsuit filed against Bert

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 15 September 2011 - 08:56 PM

There have been many nasty incidents in NHL history just as bad as Bertuzzi on Moore.

What made this so bad is the result. If Moore gets up from that, Bertuzzi is not nearly as hated.


#2207654 Wings have designated certain games "premium."

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 14 September 2011 - 06:55 PM

As if there aren't enough empty seats at the Joe.


#2207453 Should the Wings go back to two alternates?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 13 September 2011 - 08:40 PM

C - Lidstrom
A - Datsyuk
A - Zetterberg
A - Downey


#2207306 Jonathan Toews Bodychecks a Child

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 12 September 2011 - 09:32 PM

Trevor Gillies would have probably stood over the kid and celebrated.