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#2281627 The problem with our bottom six

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 11 April 2012 - 06:36 PM

I'm not sure what your meaning is when you say that we could have "easily" gotten Clarkson in the offseason. The guy's current contract began before free agency commenced in 2010, and, as far as I can remember, New Jersey never placed him on the trading block. Travis Moen was likewise already under contract during the 2011 offseason, and the Habs specifically noted that he was not on the table at the deadline.

I can't help but think that you're looking at Nystrom with goggles tinted by hindsight. He scored 16 goals this season, sure; but he had totaled 25 in his roughly 250 games before that; he was coming off of a rather unpleasant incident; and he had been waived by a Wild team that couldn't exactly be called deep in any fashion. More, the Wings had a rather extensive glut in the bottom six; Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Hudler, Mursak, Helm, Abdelkader, Eaves, Miller and Emmerton were all candidates for those lines. Too, acquiring Nystrom would have required waiving somebody, as the roster limit had been reached.


Well, part of making good moves is signing players no one else think will succeed. Kind of like Holland did with Cleary many years ago. You've gotta take chances sometimes to be a step ahead of other teams. Someone took a chance on Nystrom, and it paid off.

Plus, some of those "so-called" bottom six players are interchangeable. However, we don't have any player like a Clarkson or Moen. Abby is sort of like Nystrom I guess.

But guys like Nyquist, Hudler and Holmstrom aren't really bottom six players. They need to play with more skilled players to be effective. But frequently, they're just thrown on the bottom lines and that's why those bottom lines have no identity.


#2281042 The problem with our bottom six

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 10 April 2012 - 07:06 PM

It would have looked better with Moen, Clarkson or Nystrom in it.

All guys we could have gotten easily in the offseason, and guys that would have been a pain to play against in a long playoff series.


#2280734 Stand behind your Wings!

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 April 2012 - 09:58 PM

As much as I am behind this post and understand your frustration with the people that are leaving the team for dead, I think the sheer fact of starting this thread is counterproductive to you original intent.

Everyone that takes offense to being called a negative nancy will be in here trying to explain their case even though you ask them not to.

I for one think the Wings got this round, I dunno how many itll take but I really do believe that the Wings go into a different mode of playing come playoff time. Im not particularly excited that Cleary has now admitted that he not only has a cyst but also has degenerative osteoarthritis. I had it after 6 surgeries from an impacted acetabulum (my thigh bone went through the hip bone, like jumping off a 4 story bulding and landing on your feet) sustained from a bad moto wreck. For one year, my bones werent healed enough to have a hip replacement and merely existed in the pain from the bone on bone movement. If he is that bad he needs to sit it out. I required pretty hefty doses of oxy just to walk. If he isnt taking anything and is even 20% of what I was he has no reason to play. This isnt a play through a mild fracture or any injury that can be heavily taped, this is a situation that every movement is affecting him and as such needs to go on LTIR.

Beyond that one I am confident the Wings are going to win.

Who can remember a time we have played the Preds and werent a little apprehensive about the match up? They are a tough team that likes to grind it out. Things havent changed much since the last time we took them out so this shouldnt be any different.

My best guess is we take it in 6, thats what we've beaten them by the last few times we played.

Oh and GO WINGS


Honestly, I can never remember the Wings looking so vulnerable going into the playoffs.

In 2002, this team played awful to end the season, but that team was loaded like none other. You had to know they'd win.

In 2010, we were a 5 seed, but had the best record in the league after the deadline from what I remember. And after destroying Phoenix in game 7, most people would have picked us to beat San Jose. Even last season, the team looked really strong sweeping Phoenix and it looked like they could handle the Sharks potentially.

But this team has fallen into the playoffs like no other Wings team I can remember. I don't know why anyone is surprised that so many people are not excited about our prospect of going far.


#2280605 Dan Cleary openly admits to being at 50%

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 April 2012 - 03:48 PM

If this really was a fact, he would be sitting.


Is Babcock not watching the games out there? Cleary is just skating around aimlessly and isn't able to help the team. In not doing so, he's hurting it.

Call up some youngster from the minors who will play hungry and try to shine in the playoffs. Kind of like Helm in 2008. It's honestly more the coaching staff's fault than Cleary's. He'll play until he drops, but they have to step in there and realize it's not a good idea.


#2280604 Stand behind your Wings!

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 April 2012 - 03:46 PM

I love the contradictions in the original post.

We should stand behind the decision making of the organization and players, yet we shouldn't be afraid to criticize the team or the players.

Okie dokie. :rolleyes:


#2280598 Dan Cleary openly admits to being at 50%

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 April 2012 - 03:42 PM

He shouldn't be playing.

Some guys can play at 50% and still help the team. As we've seen all season, Cleary at 50% is not helping the team at all. In fact, he's hurting the team and is rather easy to play against right now.

He needs to sit.


#2280439 Wings recall Chris Conner

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 08 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

I want Tatar!


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#2280199 Wings meet Preds in First Round

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 08 April 2012 - 10:43 AM

I'm all in. Wings in six. None of this whiny bs "I hope they win, but I don't know". They WILL win. And as far as the posters that come on hear to piss in our cherios - don't come back here to jump on the bandwagon later. You are either a fan of the team or not, and fans root for their team.


I actually popularized that quote here. :lol:


And your post will probably be deleted for being smug.


#2279942 line combination website

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 07 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

Insert blueadams joke here.


What exactly is a "line combination" website?


#2279809 4/7 GDT : Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 07 April 2012 - 02:53 PM

UGH! How did I forget that extra negative. The travel to Phoenix would have been worse, same with watching late games, but at least there would have been plenty of Wings fans diluting their White Out nonsense. Nashville fans get their playoffs tickets free in packages of Donettes at the truck stop, do some asking around about this "hockey" in the line to get in, mouth-agape listening to opposing fans explain it.


And the lack of TV exposure this series will likely get.


#2279572 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 07 April 2012 - 02:00 PM

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#2279515 4/7 GDT : Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 07 April 2012 - 01:37 PM

I hope this team enjoys flying to San Jose again and getting their asses kicked.


#2278773 Is 6th spot a better option?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 06 April 2012 - 10:20 AM

I rather play within the central and let Chicago enjoy the long flights... And hope they take out SJ or La or whomever they play. I don't fear the Hawks currently.


The way the Wings have played the last month, I fear every team.


#2277998 4/4 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (SO)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 04 April 2012 - 09:18 PM

Powerplay is still an unmitigated disaster.

I know Boston made it last year with no powerplay, but this team absolutely needs one. We can't survive without it.


#2277989 4/4 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (SO)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 04 April 2012 - 09:16 PM

Nice comeback. Franzen looked alive finally.


As for Kindl.........

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