I don't think that has anything to do with his larger point about shootouts not being involved. He was simply stating they aren't a part of the game then. Jimmy was great two years ago in the playoffs anyways.
And one good playoff out of five seasons ain't bad.
His quote seems like he just doesn't get it. Neither does the team or Babcock. They'll probably use this same quote all season.
Howards quotes sound like what i call a excuse. Better show up on friday these points can't bite us in the ass.
He gets these quotes from his brilliant GM, who has a book of quotes he uses for every excuse.
This is our first real losing streak of the season. You don't go through a season without ever losing three or four in a row. Look at the Bolts - they'd lost, what, four of their last five going into tonight? Are we gonna say they're pretenders?
Fighting is the only penalty that's treated as a "fetish" by a certain group of hockey fans. You can compare it to other penalties all you want, but the popularity isn't quite the same. Guys like Probert, Odjick, Schultz, Brown, and many others have always been popular with the fanbases that root for those teams. Not many people have historically been in love with guys who trip or hook someone on the ice.
Your high horse is really a rocking horse, but you still need to get off it. Not all pro-enforcer posters are as dumb as you think they are.
If there's a fight at a Wings game, heck yeah I'm gonna be pumped. I love a good scrap. But I don't want a McGrattan on the team JUST because he scraps. He's got to be useful when he's not scrapin too.
Take the Smith-Panik fight we're supposed to be talking about. Things got heated and Smith stood up for himself and threw down, atta boy Smitty. I love it. But before and after that fight Smith still brings solid hockey to the team. McGrattan doesn't do that at all.
I get the feeling that you guys wanna see more of the heavy-weight bouts like in the 80s, but those bouts frankly have nothing to do with hockey, just two guys fighting over an imaginary belt. Even so, they don't exist anymore! If they did Perry and Lucic would have a formal square off at every Bruins Ducks match-up.
The so-called "fighters" these days barely offer quality hockey at the AHL level. Those guys exist purely to put butts in seats.
Now if it's guys who will stand up for their teammates you want, I'm all for a Simmonds type on this team. That would be AWESOME. But Mcgrattan is no substitute for that. All he brings is an on ice liability, which means we can no longer roll all 4 lines against whomever. He's not out there protecting Joakim Andersson, he's putting on a spectacle for the fans.
Oh I know those guys are dinosaurs who don't exist anymore. Doesn't mean I can't have nostalgia for that part of the game. Holland won't sign any fighter, whether that player can score goals or not. He signed Tootoo, but never played him because he didn't fit our style of play (which makes me wonder why we signed him). There are plenty of young guys who can hit, fight and score occasionally. We just don't look for that kind of player.
You're right. I'll order another Miller Light and yuck it up with all the other low brow dips***s. Because it's obvious how interested I am in agreeing with the crowd.
Afterward I'll head home and jack off to all the pass interference calls I missed on Monday night football, because penalties are totally awesome bro!
So we're all low brow dips***s because we happen to like that part of the game and the players who have historically been linked with hockey pugilistics? I like that part of hockey history as much as I like the skilled players who made up the game's history.
McGrattan and Engelland will make a man out of him yet.
I like how in your mind "the action" of hockey and penalties are the same thing. You want the league to leave game misconducts alone, so that you can enjoy the "action". Lol. Nevermind what happens between the whistles, that s***'s boring. The real stuff comes after the play is dead. And one day, if we're really lucky, all the fun stuff about hockey will happen after the game is completely over. Then we can just watch Dan Carcillo and Zac Rinaldo beat the s*** out of each other in the parking lot. What a sport that will be.
So if there's a brawl during a Wings game this year and the fans are into it, are you going to come here and post about how boring, stupid and pointless it all was? Or are you going to chant and be entertained like everyone else?
You're making assumptions here. Not too many people would be happy about that. I wouldn't want to see someone on the wings win a fight by cheating. If he loses fairly then it's all well and good. If he wins fairly then I'm happy. If cheating is involved to create a clear advantage on either side the fight should be stopped immediately.
We've won so few fights over the years, that I wouldn't mind if a Wings player pulled a foreign object out of his pants (a la Ric Flair) and used it on his opponent.
So your blaming poor ticket sales on the fact we don't fight anymore.... Would have nothing to do with the economy.
I would love for you to explain to Bob Probert's wife and 4 kids as well as countless other familys that lost someone way too soon because it will sell more tickets. Ignoring the long term effects of head trauma due to toughness is ignorance.
That's true, but Bob Probert made a lot of money for his family because of fighting. Granted, he could play and score, but other enforcers couldn't, and still made good money. You can't have it both ways sometimes. That's what their job called for is fighting.
Middleweight scrappers that can play are the new norm with regards to fighting.
Honestly, I fall asleep watching those middleweight fighters scrap.
Smith was actually the best fighter on the ice at that moment.
But yes, the Wings don't stand up for teammates enough. The Weber on Zetterberg play is a great example. The league is now about having smaller middleweights who can play hockey and fight. We don't even have those on this team, for some reason.