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#2539233 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 October 2014 - 10:14 AM


I don't think "being physical" matters at much as people tend to think.  Many fans (around the league) think if you're big and you're not playing like Backes or Lucic then you're "easy to play against".  Which is likely not true.  Obviously its harder to play against guys like that, but it's probably no walk in the park trying to body up Franzen for 60 minutes.  No matter how "physical" he is (or isn't), he's still 225 lbs. of forward that you've got to try and contain for an entire game. 


So in short, I agree lol. 


I think the Wings are very easy to play against physically.  The big guys aren't known for their hitting.  Franzen is big and skilled, but doesn't really battle for pucks.  Team speed is supposed to be our real strength, but that didn't really work for us when playing against a team like Boston.  

#2539231 Off the Pipes with Piper

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 October 2014 - 10:10 AM

I thought this thread was about how FSD had signed Roddy Piper to be the new Wings interviewer.  

#2539082 23 man roster set... say hi to your 2014/15 Wings

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 08 October 2014 - 01:18 PM

As much as most of us can't stand Abdelkader being in the top 6, I really think it's a total shift in the NHL in general. Teams are rolling out top 9's now. Look around at the lines for other teams. Anaheim uses Matt Beleskey on their 2nd line, and they used Pat Maroon on their top line last season. Los Angeles has Tanner Pearson on the 2nd, while Justin Williams (who won the Conn Smythe) is on their 3rd line. Chicago's rolling out a Saad-Shaw-Kane line.

Is Abdelkader better or worse than some of those guys? I don't know, and I don't like him on that line, flat out. I do know that there's a shift in how teams are rolling out scoring lines. Teams aren't top heavy anymore - they're trying to run three balanced scoring lines. For better or worse, Abs is going to stay in that top 9 somewhere. Detroit's going to utilize guys like he and Helm to fill in spots on line where they battle for pucks and play in front of the net.


But all those teams are a lot better than us with a much deeper offensive pool  So whatever they're doing, they're doing it right.    


Abby in the top 6 is a perfect indication of why this team has fallen from contender status.  Guy works hard on every shift, but it's like putting lipstick on a pig.  It shouldn't be there and he shouldn't be getting big minutes with skilled players.  

#2538411 NY Islanders Acquire Leddy and Boychuk

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 04 October 2014 - 11:11 PM

"I don't know why they're not coming here"

#2537623 Are the wings underrated?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 September 2014 - 05:43 PM

A team that can barely make it out of the first round once in the last 3 seasons is not underrated.  Everyone knows the team is in a mini-rebuild mode.  

#2537407 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 26 September 2014 - 07:35 PM

To clarify are we talking physical players or "meatheads"? You seem to be going back and forth.  Who wouldn't like a physical player who is solid defensively and can score a big goal on occasion.  Every team wants a few of those and there aren't that many available.  


Holland signed Tootoo, a fighter and agitator, and after injuries to nearly every regular on the team, Babcock chose to play absolutely anyone but him.  He made it pretty clear that isn't the type of player he wants on his team.  


The Wings have plenty of needs, but an "enforcer" is at the very bottom of the list.  The injuries have nothing to do with having an enforcer.

It was 17 years ago.


I'm just saying that I'll take a meathead if we can't get a fighter with talent (which I know we won't).    


Enforcer may be on the bottom of the list, but the top of the list isn't something Holland seems to be able to realistically address.  He doesn't have any sway over free agents anymore and neither does the organization.  We're not going to obtain a top 6 winger or a top pair defenseman, so what's the use wishing for the impossible.


Getting a tough guy would be easy and cheap.   

#2537402 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 26 September 2014 - 04:11 PM


I think you and Mike Babcock have fundamentally different views on what the fourth line and bottom defensive pairings are supposed to be doing.  Seems like you think their role is to hit, fight, be abrasive, and generally a pain the ass to play against.  Mike seems to think bottom end players are supposed to kill penalties, play defense, eat up minutes in games that are out of reach, and not take penalties.


So rather than crossing our fingers and hoping Mike Babcock changes his mind, why not just find guys who are better able to execute his game plan...like I dunno, Abby and Helm.  Couldn't they get put on the fourth line, since that's where they should be anyway?  And once there, wouldn't they be (along with Miller, or Callahan, or Cleary, or whomever) the best fourth line in hockey?


And replace them with skilled players on the top two lines?  Holland hasn't proven he can do that well with the salary cap.  I'd like a 40 goal scoring winger on the top 6, but it's not going to happen unless it comes from a Nyquist or Tatar.  We're not signing anyone soon.  


Holland loves spending money on 4th liners like Sammy and Cleary, but doesn't spend less money for a tough guy that is cheaper.   


Um, if they're such a valuable commodity, why does no one want them and why are they all on waivers?  It isn't 1987 anymore.  That's not how this works.  That's not how any of this works.


Oh come on.  Every team has had more toughness than the Wings each of the last 10 plus seasons.  We're the anomaly when it comes to enforcers, not the rule.  There are plenty of tough guys not on waivers, just like there are plenty who are.    

#2537398 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 26 September 2014 - 01:33 PM



Yeah the Milan Lucic type doesn't grow on trees but it's not that hard to add guys like Colton Orr, McGrattan heck McLaren, Frazer, Steve MacIntyre were on waivers and could be had for nothing. We are talking about 4 line players here, there job isn't to score goals or prevent them they have an average TOi  of ~ 8 minutes their job is  to keep the other team honest and making sure that people pay for taking advantage of Pasha.


Pretty much my argument.  Guys like that are easy to find and don't cost much.  Our 4th line isn't that talented to lose a roster spot for an enforcer.  

#2537302 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 25 September 2014 - 03:57 PM



There's a difference between having a guy who will fight and can do other things and having a talentless meatbag who can do nothing but punch people.


I'd love to have a talentless meatbag on the team the next time we play the Pens.  

#2537240 Wings sign Defenseman Joe Hicketts to Entry Level Contract.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 24 September 2014 - 09:00 PM

Wait I'm 5'9" and I'm 25... Does that mean I can still grow??? :) please make it happen Santa!! I have 3 weeks till I'm 26 so it has to happen soon


Sounds like another soft euro to me.   ;)

#2537239 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 24 September 2014 - 08:59 PM

I've hated Scuderi ever since his skate blocked Franzen from scoring the tying goal in the waning seconds of game 6 of the SCF.


We should hire McGrattan and McIntyre and have them challenge Scuderi each time we face him this season.  

#2536987 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 23 September 2014 - 01:04 PM

Fire the team doctors/trainers/masseuse


Bring in the coaches that coached that Korean team in "Best of the Best"

#2536014 Rule Changes for 2014-2015 Season

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 11 September 2014 - 08:14 PM

Getting rid of the instigator rule would have been nice.


So would eliminating the shootout.

#2535867 Jonas Gustavsson - Monsters Hall of Fame new mask

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 10 September 2014 - 05:39 PM

I actually liked Osgood and Hasek's masks, because they were so simple.  Sometimes, the simpler and plainer a design is, the more power it has.  How many Osgood like masks will we see again?  

#2535591 Cam fowler skated at the wings practice today

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 04 September 2014 - 09:04 PM

He probably likes skating with one of the worst defensive corps in the league, to make himself feel better and faster.