Holland will have a jersey raised before Red Kelly.
Is it because most people here have never heard of Red Kelly? Or is it because Kelly was traded?
Osgood and Fedorov also played for other teams. And Kelly's all time NHL ranking is higher than either player's. He should have his number retired as he's one of the 5 or 6 best players this franchise ever had.
lest we forget the horrible teams Roy and Brodeur played for...those teams were just as good if not slightly better than us during that era.
I believe they both need to be up in the rafters.
Are you comparing Osgood to Roy and Brodeur, or are you just trying to say that other goalies have played with great players around them? The latter statement is true, but doesn't make Osgood an elite goalie.
Besides 1996, was Osgood ever a candidate for the Vezina, like Brodeur and Roy were many times? Was he ever considered one of the top 5 goalies in the world, let alone for a stretch of time? No is the answer to both questions. He's not elite. He's a good goalie that accumulated wins because he played with great players around him. And unlike Roy and Brodeur, he never stood out for individual awards or nominations.
Wings fans overrate Osgood. I've done it before too. But you need to see things in context.
I remember a few years ago I was at Joe Louis West as I like to call the Hawks' barn, wearing my Yzerman jersey and a Hawk fan yelled at me, "Why are you wearing that? He doesn't even play for them anymore! And Red Wings suck!" It was then I looked at who he was wearing and it happened to be a Byfuglien one so I said, "Why are you wearing that? HE doesn'e even play for the Hawks anymore." He then tried to tell me that Byfuglien still does, and that he just bought it because Byfuglien is a, "Beast," and will win cups with the Hawks for many years to come. So I laughed in his face and left. Then some of their fans tried pushing my little brother down the stairs getting outside. It was a real...magical...expierence.
And hell I remember when Wing sweaters took up 85% of that place, they couldn't even give tickets away, what a joke.
You should have put on a Chelios Wings jersey. That would have done it.
Yzerman is the General Manager of the team, he doesn't have any say in those kinds of things (to the best of my knowledge), nor is he the kind of guy that would do that.
D-bag move by the Lightning, though.
You never know. I didn't think Alexei Zhamnov was the kind of guy that would load his team with 5 North American goons and have them bully every team in the KHL. But that's what happened in Vityaz many years ago when he ran the team.
Yzerman may not have the final call, but he is one of the higher ups in the organization. How can you say he has not word in the matter?