You compared European soccer not demolishing old buildings to na demolishing old buildings. I just gave you an alternate comparison.
They keep they're buildings from being knocked down, we don't.
They have ads on their jerseys. We don't.
Well, I wasn't comparing them across every issue. Of course there's things we do better than them. The ads on European hockey jerseys are even worse. The only point was about arenas. I like the older arenas with history. But there's a lot more, obviously, that goes into it (like politics). I understand why the city of Detroit needs to do this. I'm just lamenting how there's so few buildings left with history. The Nassau coliseum was a dump, but those great Islander teams of the 80's played there. Same thing with Rexall place and the Oilers. At least people went into that building knowing that's where Gretzky and those great Oilers teams played back in the day. I've always wanted to see a game there.
The JLA has not been around for 50 or 60 years, but 35 years is as long as you'll see in today's sports world. In a few years, Madison Square Garden will now be the only old building left in the NHL.
Ok. I have a question for you then. Would you rather keep the old building around and have big advertising on the front of the Jersey like European soccer. Or would you rather have no Jersey advertising and a corporate name on a new arena?
So if we don't destroy the JLA, we need to put ads on the jersey? I don't see that kind of fallout. And of course I wouldn't want ads on the jersey. But I don't see that as the only alternative.
My point was, they wouldn't tear down a Yankee Stadium or a Montreal Forum or a Boston Garden. There's history in those buildings and players and fans felt something special when they went to a game. Now you have these big corporate named arenas with more seats and more comfort, but less atmosphere. It's not as memorable and not as great an experience. Every time I meet someone who went to a sporting event at the Boston Garden or at the Chicago Stadium, I ask them about it. Don't really care about the TD Garden or the Air Canada Center, and nobody will care in 30 years about them, because they will probably be demolished by then. Not much time to make history there. As a fan, I want to attend a stadium where legends played. You can do that in Europe, but not here. Unless you go to Lambeau Field, Wrigley Field or Fenway Park. We'll see how long those last.
Maybe it's a cultural mentality. In Europe, they have famous soccer stadiums that have been around, in some cases, over 100 years. They'd never think of demolishing those. Maybe it's because Europe has more history than North America and has been around much longer. We haven't been around long and want to make our stadiums look brand new every 20 years.
So yeah, I'm sad they're demolishing the JLA arena. It's where Yzerman, Lidstrom and so many other greats played.
It sucks to lose The Joe but if they didn't demolish it then it would just become part of the problem that's been plaguing Detroit for decades: abandoned real-estate.
Couldn't they hold other events there? Concerts and such.
We're not European. Thank god.
You're a European-American aren't you? Or are you Native American?
I'm still pissed they're going to demolish the arena with the greatest non-corporate name in sports.
This new arena looks cool, though, and I understand they want to be on par with other new arenas around the league. I just wish we weren't so keen in this country with demolishing legendary arenas. They don't do s*** like that in Europe.
Waste of time and money. Should have signed a guy that can actually throw a bodycheck.
But I forgot, when our top 6 penalty killing forwards are tired, we need to throw Andersson out there to give those guys an occasional breather. And he has faceoff skills that would make Yanic Perreault blush.
Have we even talked about Phaneuf in the last 4 pages of this thread?
Not that I ultimately give a s***, except the mods have dropped the hammer in more "on point" threads than this de-evolved mess.
Everything that could have been said about Phaneuf already was early on in his career.
He's been a failure from what he was first projected to be, which is a Norris caliber defenseman for much of his career. Instead, his only accomplishmend (albeit a good one), is banging Elisha Cuthbert.
WTF happened to this thread?
Same thing that happened to Phaneuf's career. You kinda just forget the guy is even there.
HAHAH the players were better? You guys crack me up. Hockey has never seen the speed and skill it has now. All that clutching and grabbing was dumb and honestly line brawls were a sideshow to the actual game. And the ratings are better because the advertising is reaching so many different mediums and the game is being watched everywhere and anywhere.
Name me today's best players and we'll have a nice laugh as to which generation is better. The generational talent was way better in the 90's, because the great players of the 80's were still strong, and the 90's were loaded with great young players from Europe.
In fact, I don't think there's ever been as much talent in the NHL as there were in the 90's.
Nah. The game is boring and stupid if there aren't a bunch of pituitary mutants out there banging their skulls together. That's real sport.
Read post above. The hitting and fighting isn't the only reason the game was better. There were more great players in the game back then than there's ever been. You can't come up with a comparative list of talent in today's generation. The pool isn't that deep.