Look, I don't mean to go all Carman on you here, but have you seen Crosby's numbers this season? Have you seen his numbers compared to his teammates? I love Datsyuk all day long, but hands down Crosby is the MVP right now, and it has nothing to do with a league bias or crush on him.
the only point i was making is that 9 times out of 10 they give it to the guy with the most points. but i do agree with you that crosby is the league MVP right now. his linemates are dupuis and kunitz... he doesn't have the luxury of Z and homer/cleary orf****** semin/backstrom. so yes, hes MVP right now, but if dats finishes only 10 points behind him at season's end, he should get the nod for a far superior 2 way game. though crosby's 2 way game is improving drastically year to year. it's actually scary how much better he is now than in his rookie season. but in saying that, i still hope crosby gets injured just before reaching 100 points and is sidelined for the rest of the year and playoffs. why you ask?? just to f*** with pens fans and their stupid asses. those pricks deserve it. yes that's sadistic, but we all are sometimes. i just am toward pens fans.
Lidstrom honorable mention - Babcock #1 for Adams.
that's pretty cool to see dats getting some credit for his amazing second-to-none 2 way game. unfortunately, in the end, all the voters care about is points and crosby's tear he's on right now, especially with malkin out for part of it will most likely win him the hart. my personal opinion would be dats for the hart and selke and possibly keep the ted lindsay award in hockeytown, but we all know how 2 of those 3 trophys work... i'd like to see Z earn his way into the top 5 too. or have lids win it before he retires even though he should have won it already...
I get Ozzie played bad last season. Everyone knows it, even Ozzie. Who is to say that Osgood won't play well this season? If you wanted Ozzie gone and it wasn't based on last night's performance why not post about it after his Chicago performance?
You keep saying last year, last year, last year but what does that have to do with his play this season? What has Osgood shown this season that dictates he will have another bad season?
ozzy has 1 good game, 1 bad game howard has 1 good game, 1 bad game
defense has 2 good games, 2 bad games...anyone seeing a trend here.
i'm with you right now. ozzy should be given more than 2 games before we throw him under the bus, and i'm in the group that wants this to be his last season. if our D stops giving the other teams free lanes to the net and screening our goalie for them, we'll see alot more saves.
it's funny how all the critics and fans from other teams knock the wings so hard and say they're old and s*** and their time is at an end...blah, blah, blah and it's the "Pens time"...but every year, the panels go with the safe and consistent bet and take the wings. i called wings over bruins in 6, but their prediction sounds good. i like all their predictions except the norris. nick goes out on top. norris, stanley and conn smythe if dats, Z, or franzen don't win it.
10 games is fair. that's the age difference between cammalleri and neiderreiter the KID! cammalleri only gets one game cause he's a "star player". nice welcome to the NHL by a guy that's supposed to be a class act, but hey, he's a Hab now, so the whole class act thing is out the window. wait for the riot in montreal after his 1 game suspension. colon campbell needs to drop the hammer on cammalleri after that complete bulls*** display. people hate on ovie cause he plays hard, but he would NEVER do anything like that.
once again guys in the NHL don't know how to take a clean hit with the shoulder and continue playing hockey instead of cheap shotting a guy for no reason. if these guys can't take a hit and shrug it off, go playf****** soccer.
Has anyone else noticed how many people on other sites and TSN's Your Call put so much stock in Pre-Season??
It's absolutely hilarious how many people throw the Wings under the bus because they lose pre-season games, and some by more than 3 goals. Don't people know the whole point of NHL pre-season is to match your prospects up against the other teams top talent? That's why teams play back-to-back and have completely different line-ups each night. You need these games to give your prospects and indication of where they need to be at to play against other teams top talent on and NHL roster night in and night out.
Just wanted to see what you guys think about the pre-season games and the outlandish comments people make about "teams chances of winning the cup" because of the exhibition performances.
Imagine if Tatar plays like a possessed little man in training camp, would he crack the roster? kenny always say "we will put the best team on the ice every night" but i don't think that's the truth, then draper, maltby etc would have been ditched 2 seasons ago...i almost feel sad for the young guns reading how they hope to crack their roster but even if they outplayed some players they would still keep them in the farm team, cause that's what ken holland do, they don't have to go through waivers so just let them get overdone in grand rapids instead, in most cases this is good, but some players just have elite talent that needs to get to the nhl earlier, has there even been a prospect with maximum 1 year in GR that has cracked the detroit line-up after 04-05 lockout? (not counting franzen as he was alot older) Hudler one year? Kronwall one year? hmm is that all? did filppula play 1 or 2 year in ahl?
i'm with you on this. i don't like losing guys like quincey and leino who didn't get any ice time to tap out their real potential. leino was a big player in philly's cup run and in a way it hurt. draper and maltby were done a couple years ago as far as effectiveness goes. if malts signs, he better be a mentor in GR all year. ice time shouldn't be given to him over guys like ritola, miller or even meech if there's injuries. and if there is injuries, i'd rather see tatar if a fwd is needed and smith if a dman is needed to see how they handle "the show" when called up. maltby should work with the likes of andersson as it seems that he will eventually have the same type of role as a grinder with the wings in years to come. after this season there will be a few spots to be taken by the young guys as well. possible retirees are modano, lids, draper, ozzy, maltby. that's atleast a roster spot at F, D and goal. lets hope mccollum doesn't play s***ty this year and howard and the wings brass can be comfortable with the howard/mccollum tandem. forward spot after this season sounds like tatar may be the guy as long as he continues to improve and that other D spot has smith's name all over it. so if someone else wants one of those spots, they better impress like crazy.
all in all, maltby needs to stay in GR ALL year and help out the team that employed him way past when he was useful.
I think the original list is pretty good. WHile I would like to see Larianov on it, I don't know who I would take off it to make room for him.
I deal with a lot of foreigners in my line of work. I can talk hockey with all the Canadians I meet, as well as all of the Swedes, including the women. However, being a lifelong Wings fan, it bumbs me out that none of the Russians that i work with know anything about the Russian hockey players.
kovalev. this man has no heart for the game. he is lazy and a smug *******. i'd definately put the professor in before that slug. and i'd also put fetisov in before that defensive disaster gonchar. if konstantinov got to play longer, he would be on that list for sure. he was a beast.
the most noteworthy russian goalie of all time is tretiak hands down. he helped revolutionalize goaltending and inadvertantly made ken dryden a better goalie from dryden watching his pre-game warm-up styles and what not.
i really wish that mikhailov and kharlamov played in the NHL. they would have really set the bar high for russians. and if way back then the russian players could come over to the NHL, the situations present today would probably not be so harsh for russian players signing and drafting.
Who's basing it on last season? The guy is a perennial 20-25 goal scorer on any team he plays on. Has nothing to do with Malkin or Crosby.
Take a look at his career as a whole.
the age guerin's at with his totals going down annually since his 36 goal campaign in STL in 06-07, without playing on a 1st line with crosby or malkin, he'll get 15 goals tops on some teams 2nd line if he gets 2nd line mins. if on 3rd line, pencil him in for 10 and 35 pts.
To the guy who is making a fuss about Chicago losing money you really don't understand business. The Hawks have been paying off loans and the debt from the past 10 season. They are not a trainwreck of an org. Have you taken a look at your own arena and the empty seats? The NHL in general loses money because of the s***ty TV deal and the weak teams like PHX and Florida. And Yes Chicago can be compared to Detroit. You shouldn't freak out at that, but take it as a compliment. They were handed draft picks, but you still have to make the right picks... They could have easily taken Kessel over a world class player in Toews or Turris over Kane. Jealousy is a bitter pill to swallow, but the Hawks are going to be good for a long time. No doubt Lids is a top D -man of all time, but give Keith and the Hawks org. some respect even if you don't like the team.
lids should always be a top candidate for the norris. last year with the wings hurt all year, most man games lost, lids was over-pressured from playing with different linemates on a nightly basis and a horribly depleted forward unit.
keith played with seabrook ALL year who is one of the best dmen in the league in my opinion. on top of that, 3 scoring lines and one hell of a 4th grind line infront of them. keith should have been nominated for the norris and won it, but if you switch him and lids situations, lids wins the norris by a landslide vote.
my 2 favorite teams are the wings (by a longshot) and the hawks in a distant 2nd. so i am with you on multiple points, but with all the depth and firepower that the hawks lost this offseason they are gonna come into the playoffs most likely between 4-6 in the west this year. if the hawks have any significant injuries, they're gonna have a pretty hard time. and without buff there taking charge of s***, who's gonna do that job in his absense?