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#2683945 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by marcaractac on 26 July 2016 - 10:10 AM

I'm not going to moan about it, but it is more than I was thinking he is worth, but exactly what I expected he'd get.  Someone above mentioned that this is the going rate for a 2nd pairing guy, but I'm not sure that's the case....I think there is 15 or so teams in the league that have either no guys or only 1 D man making more than $5M...some have 2, less have 3.  

 

I always seem to be surprised at the length and the $ amounts of the deals that Kenny puts together, I guess it's a bit of a risk he normally takes....some work out really well and others don't.  DD is still young enough that the length won't be an issue and I guess Kenny is hoping the deal will look better towards the end of the deal vs today.

 

Gotta imagine a lot of these second pairing dmen making under 5 mil are probably on a contract signed when they had a lot of RFA years left. Complete speculation of course, but this was the deal to prevent him from going UFA next summer. He'd have made at least 5 mil had he hit the open market next summer. 




#2683941 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by marcaractac on 26 July 2016 - 10:05 AM

No one here yet... a lot of backlash on Twitter though...

 

Unfortunately a large portion of the Red Wings fanbase have become insufferable. There is literally nothing to complain about with this deal at all. 5 million per season for a dman of his calibre coming into his prime is as ideal as it gets. Some ***** at the term, but he'll be only 32 when the deal is up. I see no issue.  




#2683677 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 22 July 2016 - 09:59 PM

So you're sure the evidence is there, you just don't have it.

First, TBTLC would actually have to center the third line, which he hasn't done since shortly after Babs dubbed him that. He was an unproductive second line winger until Blash moved him to Glendening's wing last year.

 

If you need evidence so bad why not Google it yourself? Not everyone on the internet cares about trying to convince random people of what they already know. 

 

This team has had identity and depth issues for a few years now. It is of zero surprise that Helm had to log a lot of top 6 minutes. Despite the fact this team is nowhere near contention, at least now there is enough depth to have actual top six players play in the top six. I'd fully expect to see Helm back on the third line this season. If not, the management of this team will just continue to show incompetence. 




#2683581 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 21 July 2016 - 01:05 PM

I get the frustration, but I personally think the Nielsen signing was needed. We couldn't go into the season with Zetterberg / Sheahan / Larkin as our top 3 centers. Zetterberg needs his minutes cut, Larkin isn't ready for number one center duty, and while Sheahan can play 2nd line center in a pinch, I think he's better suited in the bottom 6. I'm one of the few that wanted Helm back, and while it may be half a mil too high and a couple years too long, I think it was a good signing. Vanek is a low risk, high reward signing, but I would have preferred to see a kid get that spot. The Miller and Ott signings are a complete joke... Without the latter three signings we could have had a few more spots open for the kids, who are mostly deserving of spots anyway... Of the players that you mentioned though, I only think Athanasiou and Mantha are ready to be full time NHLers. I'm completely fine with Bertuzzi spending another season in Grand Rapids, and honestly, I don't see Nosek as a high quality NHL player anyway. He might be a decent 3rd line center, but I'd much rather have Helm or Sheahan fill that spot...

 

I'm ok with Miller and Ott is it means guys like them keep seats in the press box warm instead of the kids. 




#2683536 Brad Richards Retires

Posted by marcaractac on 20 July 2016 - 06:06 PM

Now how about Cleary......

 

I'd like to see him back in GR tbh. I think he'd make a great leader with that squad.




#2683375 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by marcaractac on 17 July 2016 - 09:34 PM

I have no issue losing Sheahan. We have too many centers of the same skill level. Helm ,Sheahan, AA, Glendening.

 

But why exactly won't Howard get picked?

 

Because when looking at the 60 or so goalies in the league, he couldn't crack the top 40. Every team will have to expose a goalie. No chance in hell Howard gets picked. We'd have a better chance losing Ericsson in an expansion draft.


The Red Wings list seems pretty realistic. 

 

Agreed. Although I do think it would be a mistake to protect Hank and Kronwall. Building a new franchise, I'd choose Sheahan or Smith over Kronwall or Hank. Why protect guys who will be lucky to have a couple decent years of hockey left in them?




#2683346 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 17 July 2016 - 11:20 AM

This team will need to be extremely lucky to make the playoffs. I have my doubts that they will unless something drastically changes. We have seen so far that Holland and co. are content with the same old same old - just make the playoffs, anything can happen!

 

To be fair this team needs a year of missing the playoffs for appropriate changes to be made. With the streak intact, it will be a whole lot of playing it safe to just try and make the playoffs every year. 




#2683228 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by marcaractac on 14 July 2016 - 07:29 PM

Salaries have been going up in the league for years. A 4th liner making 1.8 per year is not unheard of this day and age. The only folks who get less than a million these days are those on entry level deals or players who still have something to prove (like Jurco, or any other player fighting for an NHL roster spot). Guys like Matt Martin and Cal Clutterbuck out there are making far more per year. Role players are important, and those who show they can play are gonna get paid. The sooner folks realize this, the less stressful they'll get when this type of new breaks. The cap isnt 39 million any more. Proven players, even 4th liners, aren't gonna be restricted to league minimum anymore. Salaries have gone up across the board. Why should the guys who produce most of the offense be the only guys to get paid more than they used to?

 

If disney.com hit the market this year along with Matt Martin, you know damn well it would be him getting that 2.5 million per year contract in Toronto instead. This is not me saying disney.com's contract is a steal. This is me saying that a deal like this is par for the course this day and age, as dictated by the market. 




#2683226 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by marcaractac on 14 July 2016 - 07:07 PM

There are contracts that hurt this team. This absolutely is not one of them. He has played under two coaches with this team and they both love having him. Maybe, just maybe they know a little more about what he brings than we do? 

 

He can skate, very good on the draw, and is very efficient in shutting down opponents best players. Especially in the playoffs. He is also good for chipping in 20 points along the way. He makes very few mistakes. He is exactly what you want as a 4th line center. 

 

If a kid comes and outperforms him at that 4C role, the contract is absolutely movable. Hell, in the 2008 playoff run we had Markf****** Hartigan in the lineup at times. It's safe to say disney.com has been the best 4th line center we've had in some time. Even comparable to the last time we've experienced success. Glad he is sticking around. 




#2683209 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by marcaractac on 14 July 2016 - 04:20 PM

Glendening is a plug. He's easily replaceable. Now they're stuck with him even if he gets passed by a bunch of younger guts because nobody will want him in a trade

 

Toronto would take him in a heartbeat




#2681918 Who should get A?

Posted by marcaractac on 02 July 2016 - 11:05 AM

Abby will get it. DD will get his when Kronwall retires, and Larkin will jump right to captain when Hank retires.




#2681785 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 01 July 2016 - 07:45 PM

Who was the first?

 

Richards




#2681771 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by marcaractac on 01 July 2016 - 06:59 PM

Hate Shaw.

Helm is the least of our problems. He works his butt off and is fast.

I'm ok with this.

The real deadweight on this team = Erickson, Kronwall, Howard

Move some of these pieces if possible

 

I wouldn't say Kronwall is dead weight, he just needs to be counted on less at this point. He still has a lot to offer in a lesser role. 

 

As for Howard and Ericsson, I agree. Sadly we're stuck with Howard unless we get lucky.                                                                                                                                




#2681734 Thomas Vanek signs 1 year, $2.6m deal with Detroit

Posted by marcaractac on 01 July 2016 - 05:17 PM

18 goals and 41 points last year. Love this deal

 

And that's a season that got him bought out. Guy has something to prove. I like it. 




#2681729 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 01 July 2016 - 05:12 PM

The way I see it, no players were taken on outside of Neilson that has to be protected for the expansion draft. If Vanek plays well and decided Detroit is a good fit, he can re-sign after the draft. So on the bright side, at least we shouldn't lose anyone meaningful when that time comes.