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#2557093 12/16 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by Jesusberg on Yesterday, 02:19 PM

Babcock scratching Kindl and Lashoff over Ouellet screams, "Hey Kenny. I want this kid here. Do you see!?"




#2556909 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by rick zombo on 15 December 2014 - 02:57 PM

Pretty sure if we make a trade for a dman, Big E is being bumped out of that #2. Why keep someone there who provides zero offensively?

 

Because preventing goals is equally as important as scoring them?

 

Am I missing something here?




#2557056 12/16 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by DeGraa55 on Yesterday, 11:02 AM

OMG best defensive line up of the year!!!!


#2556853 NHL Mumps Outbreak

Posted by Euro_Twins on 15 December 2014 - 12:06 PM

I had originally posted a very long, in depth description of how the virus spreads, how it evolves, and explained how a vaccines success level drops down, but i thought it came out as douchey towards you so I erased it.

I'm not saying its spreading because of the people who didn't get vaccines, but in the explanation of how vaccines work, I showed how antigens and immunogens work and how the virus would mutate within those bodies.
Im not spreading misinformation, and I don't want to type out how all that works again just to show you that... I erased it because I didn't want to be a dick to you.
So can we please just drop it.

 


Kinda like the medical staff did with the ball? :lol:


#2556829 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by rick zombo on 15 December 2014 - 12:30 AM

Those terrible Leafs just won again, in a shootout. They now have 18 wins and are only two points behind Detroit with a game in hand. But we're so much better than them.

 

We are better than the Leafs. In almost every way.

 

Goals Against, PK%, PP%. 

 

They only have us beat in goals for. They’re #1 in the league. But they’re a run and gun team with bad defence (#20 in goals against). That is, ultimately, losing hockey. 




#2556750 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by wings_fanatic on 14 December 2014 - 12:13 PM

Kronwall is inconsistent and when our best puck mover is not playing well we get skated into the ground like the last couple games. Cutting down on turnovers and moving the puck out of our zone quickly makes us a much better defensive team

Kronwall is inconsistent and when our best puck mover is not playing well we get skated into the ground like the last couple games. Cutting down on turnovers and moving the puck out of our zone quickly makes us a much better defensive team. Our weakness has been turnovers against hard forechecking teams. Yandle cuts that down drastically and imagine being able to counter attack a hard forecheck. Something we never do. We haven't scored an even strength goal in 3 games

 

 

Kronwall is VERY underrated by some of Red Wings fans. He is not Nick Lidstrom, but he is still a good, reliable number 1 and, more than that, is a good leader for this team. I would take Kronners over Yandle any day of the week. The wings will never make that trade proposed and would only tradde the likes of those guys if they were getting Shea Weber. So don't worry about that. If anything, I think a trade for Mike Green would be best for us. We would not give up nearly as much and would be adding a solid offensive dman to our team and who is right handed shot. That could go a long way to determine the extent of our playoff success.




#2556781 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 14 December 2014 - 03:52 PM

The world is falling!!! I'm not going to use the last 3 games as a sample size for predicting this teams future, I'd rather use the entire season we've currently played to judge them. It looks pretty good.


#2555076 Honest question for everyone.

Posted by kipwinger on 09 December 2014 - 11:58 AM

But I also never said he wasn't bad defensively either. I believe the best I said about his defense this year was average?

To me I try to separate what I feel is players potential and what the facts are. When speaking about smith it's mostly about his potential(except his offense which last year was good but not where it needs to be).

Like Tatar could potentially be a 30 goal a year guy. But it would be wrong of me to label him as such now right?

Tatar is terrible defensively but I don't feel the need to rag on him constantly(like you do with smith).

 

So why not talk about all of Weiss' potential?  You had no problem harping on him and ignoring how great an impact he could "potentially" have on this lineup.  Instead you acted like it was the worst signing Holland ever made.  If you're all about judging on potential how'd you miss that?

 

Like I said, this is just you trying to justify yourself after the fact.  If you were consistent in your analysis of players you'd have to A) give all players (including the ones you don't like) credit for their potential, or B) Judge all players (including the ones you do like) based on their current play. 

 

You do neither, and both.  You gloss over the shortcomings of players you like, based on their potential benefits, and you harp on players you don't like based on their current play.  It's a not so clever way for you to avoid saying anything that could be wrong.  People do it all the time.  You're not some special case.




#2555052 Honest question for everyone.

Posted by kipwinger on 09 December 2014 - 09:44 AM

How long do you have to see a player or team doing something before you put a label on them?

Like for example I've seen people call Franzen a 30 goal a year scorer even though he has done it once.

I'm just curious what peoples timelines are for putting a label on someone.

For me it's 2-3 years.


That's why I've personally given Weiss the injury prone tag cause that's how his last few years have been. But if he stays healthy for the rest of this year and next then I'll remove that injury prone label and pencil him in as a reliable second line player(hopefully center).

I only ask because people call me negative by using this method. But I feel that usin a 2-3 year rule is the best way to form an educated guess.

The last two years the wings finished 8th. So my educated guess was they'll finish in the 6th-10th range just because that's been the trend.

If Tatar scores 30 goals this year some people will consider that enough to label him a 30 goal a year guy? I want to see it for two years back to back or two out of three.

Some people jumped on the helm bandwagon last year when he scored at a higher rate than he ever did. I was called negative for saying that won't continue because of several years of stats showing that.


Would people consider nyquist and Tatar proven NHLers yet?

 

Weiss was injured for about as long as Brendan Smith was making boneheaded mistakes in the defensive zone (the lockout season and last season) and I didn't see you "labeling" Smith a turnover machine or f*** up.  Why?  Because you don't want to think that about Smith.  Just like you do want to think that about Weiss.  Because you'd rather be right than be accurate.  You can say "I've always said I want to be wrong about Weiss" but your entire body of work here on LGW suggests otherwise. 

 

Which, I suspect, is why people respond to you the way that they do.  I said the same thing you did about Helm's shooting percentage and wasn't called negative.  Again, why?  I'll tell you why.  Packaging.  If you don't want to be perceived as negative, then stop presenting your thoughts in a negative way.  If you don't care, then why make this thread?




#2555001 It's gotta be asked....What's up with Hank?

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 08 December 2014 - 11:52 PM

It's been so long since he's been healthy in an 82 game schedule, people forget he always has his lulls offensively during the year. Like you said, still an ace defensively. He'll come around soon, and Franzen seems to make every line he plays on worse lately. Hurry back Abby. 




#2554932 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 08 December 2014 - 04:50 PM

I know he is really good. I was kidding lol.

 

Aha.  There I go taking life too seriously again. 




#2554885 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 08 December 2014 - 02:09 PM

 

Maybe he'll know how to play defense by then  :ninja:

 

He's perfectly fine defensively.  He's no worse than any other puck moving d-man.  It's just a tag he got stuck with because he broke into the league when he was like 20, and wasn't great.  Since then he's played 20+ minutes a night, on a defense first team, with a defense first coach. 

 

It's just like how Franzen can have an almost identical ppg average year to year and be inconsistent, or how "Osgood lets in the occasional floater" 15 years after he let in the occasional floater.  It's just something people say because that's what other people say, and they said it because somebody else once said it too. 

 

If Yandle played here every single person on this forum would absolutely cream themselves.  He's REALLY good. 




#2554904 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by matthewdanna on 08 December 2014 - 03:02 PM

Tank it


http://espn.go.com/nhl/powerrankings




#2554899 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by Dabura on 08 December 2014 - 02:48 PM

We is a contender.




#2554900 Jonathan Bernier - Nelson Mandela Comments

Posted by rick zombo on 08 December 2014 - 02:53 PM

This just proves they teach kids nothing in Canada besides hockey and pro wrestling.   :lol:

 

Which would mean that our kids learn two more things than the average American :lol: